"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

So the sequence is:

May loses Brexit vote by massive margin -> does not resign -> Labour tables No Confidence vote in the govt -> govt narrowly survives it.

Then what?

Oh yeah she comes back with a new proposal within three days and MPs debate it for the shortest possible time.

Or: May loses Brexit vote by massive margin -> does not resign -> Labour does NOT table No Confidence vote in the govt -> May comes back with new proposal (??) within 3 days -> it is also voted down -> Labour tables No Confidence vote -> govt must lose, as it has played every last card? -> GE -> Request for extension -> Malta says no, with hilarious consequences

good luck, UK

god someone already made that obvious post ages ago fuck

discipline of the Labour MPs in voting "no" here is pretty respectable imo

Brexiteer Conservative MP Desmond Swayne calls on Theresa May to suspend parliament until April in order to "guarantee Brexit."

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) January 14, 2019

xpost to gyac on the other thread

saw this live and it was an attempt at 'humour' fwiw

So the sequence is:

May loses Brexit vote by massive margin -> does not resign -> Labour tables No Confidence vote in the govt -> govt narrowly survives it.

Then what?

before we all die obv

discipline of the Labour MPs in voting "no" here is pretty respectable imo

This is their stance anyway but all the polling on this shows them getting hammered if they vote for the deal.

if everybody voted how their constituency voted how would that pan out?

New: Corbyn set for confidence motion straight after tomorrow's vote
We're told plan is:
- Raise point of order minutes after result (if deal is rejected)
- Hold confidence vote after PMQs on Wednesday
- Heading to Amber Rudd's constituency Thurs (election starting gun?)

— Harry Yorke (@HarryYorke1) January 14, 2019

xp majority for the government

"Leave polled the most strongly in 270 counting areas, with Remain coming first in 129."

Corbyn's team not confirming or denying, but tonight Labour MPs told confidence motion coming very soon and they won't have to wait long.

As before, Labour will not 100% commit to it in case vote is closer than expected. (some suggestions May could lose by just 50-100 votes)

— Harry Yorke (@HarryYorke1) January 14, 2019

fwiw Corbyn was already coming to Hastings on Thurs, that's been planned for a while, "policy development conference" apparently

if everybody voted how their constituency voted how would that pan out?

What do you mean?

Yeah idgi, nobody voted on this deal yet

Everyone, leave or remain, hates the deal.

apart from Sir Edward Leigh.

discipline of the Labour MPs in voting "no" here is pretty respectable imo
This is their stance anyway but all the polling on this shows them getting hammered if they vote for the deal.
if everybody voted how their constituency voted how would that pan out?

Jim Fitzpatrick (Lab, Tower Hamlets, overwhelming Remain constituency, campaigned for Remain) has told his constituents he'll most probably vote for the deal as the sure way to avoid No Deal (he said on PM tonight).

Oh yeah she comes back with a new proposal within three days and MPs debate it for the shortest possible time.

Yesterday I saw a woman with a Hessian Bag with an EU flag on it, and I thought oh look one of those FBPE lads

But on closer inspection I realized it said "Brexit means Exit" one one side, and "Leave Now" on the other, in an unassuming almost floral font, blue and yellow everywhere. not a single red white and blue bulldog to be seen

the radical centre
https://mobile.twitter.com/Lokivankenobi1/status/1084959382310408193

lol, even on btec level design courses they tell 1st year students "no swastikas, no penises".

"30's party" lol stfu!

If the next logo doesn't strongly resemble a jizzing cock then I'm demanding my membership fee back.

"30's party" cracks me up

What logo?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dw6MyoeWwAIg0og?format=jpg&name=large

https://www.twitter.com/Lokivankenobi1/status/1084959382310408193

Blimey.

Sturridge has gone to Chelsea by the way.

'hey guys what if we made our logo a swastika formed out of multicoloured sperm'

Pro EU, Pan Spermia

Good day to bury bad news

Just nice to see they're still managing non-Brexit biz

The old farts will still turn out in their droves to vote Tory at the next election.

The Murrison amendment, to specify the sunset clause for the backstop:

Amendments NEW

Very significant names behind the Murrison amendment with expiry date on backstop

Graham Brady, Damian Green, Simon Hart, Rob Halfon amongst most eyecatching

Looks very like whips operation... you wouldn’t get such names without official sanction pic.twitter.com/bFrjHpjR1Z

— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) January 15, 2019

The thinking here is presumably that if the deal passes with the amendment attached:

* The government returns to the EU and says "this is what you can have, it's this or No Deal"
* Craven Continentals wilt before British Resolve
* ?????
* War with Spain!

oooh id have a bit if war woth spain if it comes to it...will the eu enforce the whip dyou think

those names are eyecatching?

They’re not the only whips on it today.

Morning! #MeaningfulVote #GOTV pic.twitter.com/ZhLGGzOtuN

— Labour Whips (@labourwhips) January 15, 2019

Worth keeping an eye on these guys today! Ofc, true end of season cunts geeks like myself have the Commons Vote app downloaded to keep up with this nonsense.

xp

You could replace half them with the Japanese baseball game names and nobody would notice.

bobson dugnutt for environment secretary imo

lol xp Bobson Dugnut, Junior Minister for the Minor Dominions, has resigned the Tory whip in protest at something or other

xxp ah sure you know there's still some of the Armada in us.

I've been told my swarthy complexion arrived on a shipwrecked armada.

Usually we'd know by now which amdts had been selected. I hear he intends to make announcement from the Chair. Just another moment in the spotlight, or far easier to make a controversial decision? The argument then has to happen on the floor of the House.

— Nikki da Costa (@nmdacosta) January 15, 2019

I am starting to suspect that John Bercow may be a messy bitch who loves drama.

(Oh Jesus, thus is going to turn into that chapter in Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail that I always had to skim, isn't it?)

Will she accept vote of Parliament tonight? Her official spokesman says: “Yes”. But then adds PM is determined to deliver on result of referendum. She’s unlikely to be able to do both.

— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) January 15, 2019

Also the DUP don't like the Murrison amendment, or any of them, as none of them are legally binding guarantees.

I thought I was excited then I started reading the amendments and thought bollocks to this

A modest projection, maybe, but it's based on MPs who have so far said - on the record - they intend to vote against the deal. pic.twitter.com/TBLAxy34rb

— Ian Jones (@ian_a_jones) January 14, 2019

Graun predicts 213-426
Sky predicts 185-423
(w/ both still missing some mp's)

Portugal posts lowest budget deficit in 45 years of democracy
Shortfall down from bailout level of 11.2% of GDP in 2011 to 0.5% today
Pedestrians walk along Augusta street in the Baixa district of Lisbon, Portugal. © Bloomberg

Portugal’s budget deficit fell to 0.5 per cent of gross domestic product in 2018, the lowest level since the country returned to democracy 45 years ago, the National Statistics Institute (INE) said on Tuesday.

Mário Centeno, finance minister in the Socialist government, said the reduction demonstrated that Portugal had “gained credibility” and “shown Europe that there is an alternative [to austerity].”

The deficit has fallen from 11.2 per cent of GDP in 2011 when Portugal negotiated a €78bn bailout with the EU and the International Monetary Fund. President Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa said a zero deficit was possible this year.

The minority government, which is supported in parliament by the communist and radical left, initially budgeted for a deficit of 1.1 per cent of GDP in 2018, but subsequently revised its projection downwards to 0.7 per cent.

Mr Centeno is targeting a deficit of 0.2 per cent of GDP this year.

The reduction in 2018 was mainly driven by an increase in government revenues, including taxes and social security contributions reflecting economic growth and rising employment, INE said.

The revenue increase saw the tax burden rise to a record level of 35.4 per cent of GDP, up from 34.4 per cent in 2017.

António Costa, the prime minister, described the drop in the deficit to a record low as “historic”. The reduction was “not the result of cutting spending or increasing taxes”, he said, “but of policies that have restored confidence”.

Mr Costa came to office in late 2015, after an inconclusive general election, promising to “turn the page on austerity”.

lol formatting fail sorry

i thought i knew what i was doing

Eesh, this was the only video I could find of the pmq question I paraphrased upthread

If you ever had any doubt that we live in a fascist country, here is Tory MP asking the PM to guarantee that his son be allowed to commit actual literal murder without having to worry about consequences pic.twitter.com/sa7MPe3Z0Q

— ACAB Rees-Mogg (@jelly_pack) March 27, 2019

What a normal person. Is this one of his 18k blog posts about how everyone but him is wrong?

you guessed it!

ACAB rees-mogg

👀

haha

follow-up tweet is god level too

Would my right honorable friend the Prime Minister agree, that when we declare war on Ireland, my beautiful sons, Jolyause and Chaunssey, should be allowed to indiscriminately exterminate redheads, unburdened by petty legality?

[HOUSE OF COMMONS ERUPTS IN STANDING OVATION]

— ACAB Rees-Mogg (@jelly_pack) March 27, 2019

I did laugh at that, helped with the sick taste in my mouth somewhat!

Dom Cums also being held in contempt by/of parliament today, it makes no real difference to his life afaict but he’s not exactly someone who likes being told what to do or that he’s wrong.

some chat abt that ft article, the portuguese economy and how instructive an example it might be in the euro politics thread - Rolling European Politics Thread

The government will apparently be whipping against the business motion on the indicative votes - which means against the idea that the house will hold the second runoff vote on Monday - so nothing would come of this at all.

the party of no

LABOUR BREXIT LATEST: Jeremy Corbyn's spokesman explains that the party only supports a referendum on a "damaging Tory Brexit". If Labour takes power, he says, it will negotiate a better Brexit, which won't need a referendum.

There's that coherent Brexit position again which has absolutely nothing of the arrogance of May's deal.

Conservative party to be bankrupted by Brexit, too perfect https://www.ft.com/content/8e553444-4fe6-11e9-b401-8d9ef1626294

seems like that approach (1) contradicts what they’ve been saying for a while, (2) would demotivate its activists and (3) alienate a large percentage of its base

xp

That spokesman is always coming out with shit like that.

the negotiations are finished you dipshits, give it up

yes spokesman #1 did say something similar when there was the initial big brouhaha about labour’s Shift Towards Referendum

It doesn't actually contradict what they've been saying before, Corbyn hasn't taken Labour's own Brexit proposal off the table at any point.

I mean the indicative votes haven’t happened yet either.

If a GE was called tomorrow, Labour would campaign on taking Britain out of the EU, not a second referendum. But they'll whip for a referendum if it means defeating May's deal and preventing No Deal.

I don't personally agree it's the right course, but that's been the case all along and people have been selectively misreading it depending on what they want to believe.

"they'll whip for a referendum" - but what are the options on this putative ref2? where i get stuck is, how could a referendum both prevent May's deal AND no deal AND also not have revoke/remain as an option? barry gardiner has said only today that labour would not back a referendum that offered a choice between may's deal and remain. because that would imply that "we would allow a bad deal as long as the public had the opportunity to reject Brexit altogether. ... The Labour party is not a remain party"

New thread please?

Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

Bye thread, we’ve had some good times & some where I think I was implied to be a tankie?

(Posting here just to confuse Ned)

rip big man, heaven needed the thread before we had the chance to get this sorted

u will live on forever. cant believe it. I wanna run to u

this is absolute mockery of the people's will

hey thread do u need picking up in the morning pal