a quick poll about Russia and Donald Trump

at least benghazi had bodies

SB, your posts seem to be based in a senseless contrarianism and knee-jerk cynicism, backed by no discernable position. whyzatso?

lol

sorry *conforms to ilx poster mentality* trump met with six russians while he was shitting and peeing all over himself!!!!!! tax returns !!!

sb is the non-awaited return of libtriggering mra renegade and general edgebore esleeping byag? If so this more clownish iteration is an improvement

stevie, to make it clear, the meaning of "hard-on" there is animus

xp when live cod were shipped to Asia from North America, their flesh ended up gross and mushy from inactivity. In order to keep the cod active, the fisherman started putting catfish in with the cod to nip at their tails and keep them active.

That’s what I’m saying, Bumblebee Guy but dressed as a gadfly

but SB, you post only to the most active threads

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/im-not-owned-im-not-owned-i-continue-to-insist-as-i-slowly-shrink-and-transform-into-a-corncob

anyway sorry please continue to discuss dr morbius retweet from glenn greenwald about trump russia

You are literally the Tubgirl of ILX

Emptywheel seems to think this does a good job of summing up her own suspicions:

Morning epiphany: @emptywheel was right and the whole Carter Page - Man of Mystery - was an elaborate distraction, an illusion used by the magician to make us look for fake conspiracy instead of at the real one. The Russians were clearly onto Steele and fed...(1/14)

— Larisa Alexandrovna (@larisa_a) February 6, 2019

tldr It was always about money

this has been more or less what I've always thought.

That seems really plausible. Also it doesn’t require any more evidence than what we know already.

What are Trump’s finances like since becoming president?

That's a pretty good read, and it boils down to "Trump's job was to unlock the house for the thieves."

Who the f knows regarding his finances, but I have a strong suspicion Mueller does.

"And then something unexpected happened. The USIC/USLE made public that Russia had hacked the DNC. Suddenly, team Trump realized the "how" of the help. They panicked... deals were being called off, a frenzy of meetings and discussions were had... (7/14)"

but Trump was publicly asking Russia to get Her Emails

Joeks...

He didn’t understand the significance of that, then. It had to be explained to him.

Life is just a joke for Trump.

Of course that is only half of the story, and she and Marcy Wheeler don't really delve into the second half - which is that having wittingly or unwittingly unlocked the house, once elected Trump likely committed further conspiratorial crimes in the form of cover-ups and obstruction, either out of ignorance or stupidity or likely both, plus arrogance (which is in character).

Russiagate peddlers will hopefully be remembered for:
1) twisting & ignoring the available facts to fit their conspiracy theory
2) weakening an effective Resistance by prioritizing ⬆️
3) promoting the new Cold War & national security state
4) having once been taken seriously.

— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) March 20, 2019

congrats, Morbs! knew this news would have you dancing!

oh, those sweet sweet squirts of seratonin when a shred of news seems to demonstrate that you were once half right about something. gotta make those last.

i both hate when people are into russiagate fanfic and also really hate it when people bring up "russiagate fanfic" as a way of shaming people who are legit interested in some of the very serious and very sketchy stuff related to russia's meddling in the election, their relationship to trump and his cronies, etc.

it's like social media makes people so eager to "take sides" that people can't occupy a sensible middle ground.

― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, March 19, 2019 1:15 AM (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there are/were many ways to nail the Shithead

putting all the eggs in this basket never made sense

bernie would have won.

Rachel Maddow & Co will get Yam reelected if you let em

Gummy your reasonable middle of the road guy take is more worthless than either of those.

But I do feel a very bittersweet sense of vindication. Daddy Mueller was never going to save us. You have to do that by winning elections, which you have to do by appealing to people. Centrism doesn’t.

more like Nerdy Poindy

Idk. I think Gummy is right. We (the opponents of Trump) put ourselves in a position where “collusion” became the only thing that mattered. Clearing that low hurdle appears, absurdly, to “vindicate” him.

i'm not convinced that MSNBC hosts a few twitter personalities, who are pretty much the only ones who were nearly "putting all the eggs in this basket", are as important as some of you seem to imply.

none of the presidential candidates, and nearly none of the congressional/senate candidates from last year, were doing this, for one thing. a lot of the most high-profile candidates, many of whom won, had hardly anything to say about russiagate.

*hosts and a few twitter personalities

reasonable middle of the road guy take

do i have a specific "take" though? i don't think i do; i certainly haven't articulated it here, or tried.

my thing is with people who just adopt a "strong" unnuanced take, not because it's productive, but b/c it allows them to spend their time and energy dunking on people. but i guess that's just social media.

i mean left twitter is constantly dunking on the not-literally-but-nearly-straw-man of the russiagate conspiracy theorist and conflating it with the main stream of the democratic party. but if anything lots of high-profile dems have studiously sought to diminish expectations in re. mueller and have focused their energies on other investigations and above all on policy debates and such. i mean ted lieu tweets a lot but he's hardly the typical one.

Zaddy Mueller types roughly as common as Bernie bros ime

kind of a little odd to see "leftists" cheering the news that donald trump isn't going to prison, but twitter does strange things to people's minds.

maybe now they can turn their focus to getting rachel maddow fired or whatever else it is they care about.

Did I miss something? Did everyone already read the report?

The mods got an advance copy

kind of a little odd to see "leftists" cheering the news that donald trump isn't going to prison

the thing is, this isn't news

The mods got an advance copy

― Trϵϵship, Saturday, March 23, 2019 4:48 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

only sitewide mods did

kind of a little odd to see "leftists" cheering the news that donald trump isn't going to prison, but twitter does strange things to people's minds.

This is so disingenuous.

The only solution to trump is political.putting all the eggs in the basket of trump-russia stuff which frequently went into conspiracy theory territory (Bannon death sentence,pee tape) has been a political miscalculation from resistance libs

It may just be an artifact of my own little internet bubble, but I haven't seen any liberals melting down because Trump isn't in handcuffs, but I've seen a ton of leftists gleefully mocking liberals for their meltdowns and the nothingburger report.

Also, I haven't seen the actual report, and neither have you.

Yes, it's your bubble.

what libs are freakin out,sounds cheering. who?

literally nobody of importance in the democratic party or on the left here is "putting all their eggs in one basket."

frankly, nobody seems more obsessed with the russia business than idiots like aaron mate or michael tracey who seem to dedicate their entire lives to "debunking" it, 24/7.

Counterpoint: true facts stated guy, mensch, game theory bozo, maddow

All eggs in one basket was incorrect I'll concede. Undue hope of arrest of trump and juridical solution to his reign more accurate