fail dive
― Hunt3r, Thursday, 10 January 2019 12:47 (five years ago) link
Enjoy this one as wel. 'The essence of Russia-gate' loll:
The essence of RussiaGate - over and over and over and over and over: pic.twitter.com/4JrgD1OHGu— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 10, 2019
Just a reminder that Greenwald himself took information from Russian intelligence to spread no-stories about Hillary.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 10 January 2019 13:49 (five years ago) link
get adopted by the Clintons, boy
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 January 2019 13:49 (five years ago) link
Pathetic stuff from GG, thanks for sharing, Morbz.
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 10 January 2019 14:04 (five years ago) link
i'm sure that factual error was not reported here, so i was compelled
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 January 2019 14:54 (five years ago) link
The original story was hardly reported here...
― Frederik B, Thursday, 10 January 2019 15:17 (five years ago) link
no collusion! build the wall!!
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 10 January 2019 15:49 (five years ago) link
Weird how Glenn clings to every minor correction to the story he’s been insanely wrong about for two years.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link
Well, yeah. The underlying point is that The Intercept got the story catastrophically wrong in 2016, and instead of admitting to having fucked up they've ever so slowly moved the goalposts, while Glenn claims to be a voice of moderation on the issue.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link
Weird how you guys have what my late papa would call an eternal "hard-on" for GG.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:40 (five years ago) link
Jealous
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link
given you shared the GG tweet that started this revive even you must know this is ridiculous
― Bênoit Balls (stevie), Thursday, 10 January 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link
at least benghazi had bodies
― (ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:01 (five years ago) link
SB, your posts seem to be based in a senseless contrarianism and knee-jerk cynicism, backed by no discernable position. whyzatso?
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:15 (five years ago) link
lol
― (ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:19 (five years ago) link
sorry *conforms to ilx poster mentality* trump met with six russians while he was shitting and peeing all over himself!!!!!! tax returns !!!
― (ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:20 (five years ago) link
sb is the non-awaited return of libtriggering mra renegade and general edgebore esleeping byag? If so this more clownish iteration is an improvement
― Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:23 (five years ago) link
stevie, to make it clear, the meaning of "hard-on" there is animus
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:24 (five years ago) link
xp when live cod were shipped to Asia from North America, their flesh ended up gross and mushy from inactivity. In order to keep the cod active, the fisherman started putting catfish in with the cod to nip at their tails and keep them active.
― (ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:29 (five years ago) link
That’s what I’m saying, Bumblebee Guy but dressed as a gadfly
― Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:32 (five years ago) link
but SB, you post only to the most active threads
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:34 (five years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias
― (ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:51 (five years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/im-not-owned-im-not-owned-i-continue-to-insist-as-i-slowly-shrink-and-transform-into-a-corncob
― (ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:54 (five years ago) link
anyway sorry please continue to discuss dr morbius retweet from glenn greenwald about trump russia
― (ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link
You are literally the Tubgirl of ILX
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link
Emptywheel seems to think this does a good job of summing up her own suspicions:
Morning epiphany: @emptywheel was right and the whole Carter Page - Man of Mystery - was an elaborate distraction, an illusion used by the magician to make us look for fake conspiracy instead of at the real one. The Russians were clearly onto Steele and fed...(1/14)— Larisa Alexandrovna (@larisa_a) February 6, 2019
tldr It was always about money
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 18:50 (five years ago) link
this has been more or less what I've always thought.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 18:58 (five years ago) link
That seems really plausible. Also it doesn’t require any more evidence than what we know already.
What are Trump’s finances like since becoming president?
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 19:05 (five years ago) link
That's a pretty good read, and it boils down to "Trump's job was to unlock the house for the thieves."
Who the f knows regarding his finances, but I have a strong suspicion Mueller does.
― I don't come off well (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 19:06 (five years ago) link
"And then something unexpected happened. The USIC/USLE made public that Russia had hacked the DNC. Suddenly, team Trump realized the "how" of the help. They panicked... deals were being called off, a frenzy of meetings and discussions were had... (7/14)"
but Trump was publicly asking Russia to get Her Emails
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 19:06 (five years ago) link
Joeks...
― I don't come off well (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link
He didn’t understand the significance of that, then. It had to be explained to him.
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 19:10 (five years ago) link
Life is just a joke for Trump.
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 19:11 (five years ago) link
Of course that is only half of the story, and she and Marcy Wheeler don't really delve into the second half - which is that having wittingly or unwittingly unlocked the house, once elected Trump likely committed further conspiratorial crimes in the form of cover-ups and obstruction, either out of ignorance or stupidity or likely both, plus arrogance (which is in character).
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 19:23 (five years ago) link
Russiagate peddlers will hopefully be remembered for:1) twisting & ignoring the available facts to fit their conspiracy theory2) weakening an effective Resistance by prioritizing ⬆️ 3) promoting the new Cold War & national security state 4) having once been taken seriously.— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) March 20, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 March 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link
congrats, Morbs! knew this news would have you dancing!
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Saturday, 23 March 2019 17:49 (five years ago) link
oh, those sweet sweet squirts of seratonin when a shred of news seems to demonstrate that you were once half right about something. gotta make those last.
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link
i both hate when people are into russiagate fanfic and also really hate it when people bring up "russiagate fanfic" as a way of shaming people who are legit interested in some of the very serious and very sketchy stuff related to russia's meddling in the election, their relationship to trump and his cronies, etc.it's like social media makes people so eager to "take sides" that people can't occupy a sensible middle ground.― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, March 19, 2019 1:15 AM (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's like social media makes people so eager to "take sides" that people can't occupy a sensible middle ground.
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, March 19, 2019 1:15 AM (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:00 (five years ago) link
there are/were many ways to nail the Shithead
putting all the eggs in this basket never made sense
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link
bernie would have won.
― shoulda zagged (esby), Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link
Rachel Maddow & Co will get Yam reelected if you let em
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link
Gummy your reasonable middle of the road guy take is more worthless than either of those.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:30 (five years ago) link
But I do feel a very bittersweet sense of vindication. Daddy Mueller was never going to save us. You have to do that by winning elections, which you have to do by appealing to people. Centrism doesn’t.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link
more like Nerdy Poindy
― velko, Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link
Idk. I think Gummy is right. We (the opponents of Trump) put ourselves in a position where “collusion” became the only thing that mattered. Clearing that low hurdle appears, absurdly, to “vindicate” him.
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 23 March 2019 18:37 (five years ago) link
i'm not convinced that MSNBC hosts a few twitter personalities, who are pretty much the only ones who were nearly "putting all the eggs in this basket", are as important as some of you seem to imply.
none of the presidential candidates, and nearly none of the congressional/senate candidates from last year, were doing this, for one thing. a lot of the most high-profile candidates, many of whom won, had hardly anything to say about russiagate.
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:23 (five years ago) link
*hosts and a few twitter personalities
reasonable middle of the road guy take
do i have a specific "take" though? i don't think i do; i certainly haven't articulated it here, or tried.
my thing is with people who just adopt a "strong" unnuanced take, not because it's productive, but b/c it allows them to spend their time and energy dunking on people. but i guess that's just social media.
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:25 (five years ago) link
i mean left twitter is constantly dunking on the not-literally-but-nearly-straw-man of the russiagate conspiracy theorist and conflating it with the main stream of the democratic party. but if anything lots of high-profile dems have studiously sought to diminish expectations in re. mueller and have focused their energies on other investigations and above all on policy debates and such. i mean ted lieu tweets a lot but he's hardly the typical one.
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:27 (five years ago) link
Zaddy Mueller types roughly as common as Bernie bros ime
― Simon H., Saturday, 23 March 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link