yeah that was especially strange to me, it unfortunately hasn't been anywhere near the critical favourite that have you in my wilderness was, but only getting a single vote there is still shocking
― ufo, Thursday, 10 January 2019 05:57 (five years ago) link
is there not a page that shows all the singles results? I eventually figured out "thank u, next" was #1 just by clicking on it and finding its individual page, but surely there's a ranking page I'm overlooking.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 10 January 2019 14:41 (five years ago) link
i think those are going up properly tomorrow
― ufo, Thursday, 10 January 2019 14:50 (five years ago) link
My Uproxx ballot if anyone cares...
https://uproxx.com/critics/brian-oneill/
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 13 January 2019 14:40 (five years ago) link
someone start an Uproxx Poll thread and keep that major-label-tainted shit outta here
― alpine static, Sunday, 13 January 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link
lol
― dyl, Sunday, 13 January 2019 18:04 (five years ago) link
Just Gimmee Indie Polls!
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 14 January 2019 14:14 (five years ago) link
I looked at the VV site for the first time in months to see if there was anything about Pazz & Jop yet (no), but what they do have is a whole bunch of Christgau's essays, accompanied by scans of the whole insert for that year. You can get the essays on Christgau's own site, but the scans would be worth looking at for anyone who doesn't have the original copies.
http://www.villagevoice.com/
― clemenza, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 12:55 (five years ago) link
looks like they're posting one year per day, with 2002 having been posted most recently with 2003 coming up sometime tomorrow(/today)
― dyl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 05:29 (five years ago) link
It's here.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 15:06 (five years ago) link
First time there's been an all female top 5?
― Oor Neechy, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:27 (five years ago) link
if the essay had been less of a j/o session that might have been more deeply explored
― maura, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:29 (five years ago) link
Pazz and J/op
― You can't see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link
Are there any comments? I won't start whining yet--last year it took a couple of extra days before comments were posted. But I'm ready to start whining at a moment's notice if need be.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link
To my ears, and maybe mine alone, Musgraves has finally (started making CDs for CD Baby in middle school or something) reduced herself to a complete nonentity---but the melts-in-your-mind effect-noneffect seems meant as solace, and is perhaps taken that way, once daily or whatever, in this churning time. If so, cool, whatever gets you through the night, and past that, a lot of good stuff here, far as I've scrolled so far. (Musgraves also topped the Nashville Scene poll.)
― dow, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link
I'm skimming the "Pazz & Jop: The Top 50 Singles of 2018" piece, and it's "I, I, I"--"The first time I voted in this poll I was 18 years old..."--with a "by the Editors" byline. I don't get that at all.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:49 (five years ago) link
Musgraves has finally (started making CDs for CD Baby in middle school or something) reduced herself to a complete nonentity---but the melts-in-your-mind effect-noneffect seems meant as solace, and is perhaps taken that way, once daily or whatever, in this churning time.
Thanks for nailing what I can't like this record.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:55 (five years ago) link
You and I may have been the only ones who called her re the sub-standard greeting card verse of the previous offering. I dunno---I never got into Moby or New Pornographers either (even though one New P was Neko, whom I usually like).
― dow, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link
Nice to see the 'Black Genius' essay completely overlook Kamasi Washington, Makaya McCraven, and Shabaka Hutchings, all of whom had albums in the top 40...
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link
i dislike and regret that i contributed to something that gave an essay to someone i consider horrible and abusive
also the results are super boring
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
interesting to see high placements for artists who probably won't even crack the 77 here (some regrettably!)
― omar little, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 17:56 (five years ago) link
"someone i consider horrible and abusive"
I gotta ask: Christgau?
― clemenza, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 18:03 (five years ago) link
nope but also sure why not xgau is certainly a shithead who sucks too
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 18:18 (five years ago) link
I'm skimming the "Pazz & Jop: The Top 50 Singles of 2018" piece, and it's "I, I, I"--"The first time I voted in this poll I was 18 years old..."--with a "by the Editors" byline. I don't get that at all.― clemenza, Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:49 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― clemenza, Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:49 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That line is in Jessica Hopper's essay, which is bylined.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 21:09 (five years ago) link
Now I see, thanks--misread that because of the embedded link.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 21:30 (five years ago) link
I've gleaned from my FB wall that comments will go up tomorrow.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 23:29 (five years ago) link
A sometime ilxor posted something on FB that I found interesting, even if the fact of it isn't necessarily surprising cuz audiences be fickle:
"two albums ago, Tune-Yards won P&J, this album finished #99. seems like there is something interesting in that, though I am not sure what exactly. Perhaps it's more difficult for indie artists to sustain attention over multiple records, esp. now. On this list, Noname and Mitski (both great records) may have more to do with "I like Noname and Mitski" than these particular records, and if they make an equally good ones this year they might not be Top 10 material, the initial discovery counts for a lot."
― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 7 February 2019 00:23 (five years ago) link
otoh Low just had what I assume is their best placement ever and that's like their 22nd album, so I maybe wouldn't read that much into it beyond the fact that ppl were generally just that that into this particular tune-yards record
― bhad bundy (Simon H.), Thursday, 7 February 2019 01:01 (five years ago) link
My @villagevoice Pazz & Jop ballot. Thanks to @ismathers, James Christopher Monger, @RekkidOfTheDay, Brent Burton, @unlistenmusic, @knopps, @AdrienBegrand, Chuck Eddy, @DarkForcesSwing, @dominiqueleone & Kevin Stewart-Panko for validating a couple choices! https://t.co/qS9RWsj1Gs pic.twitter.com/FiK7yqOzJ3— Brian O'Neill (@NYC__Native) February 7, 2019
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 7 February 2019 01:01 (five years ago) link
the singles results are shockingly boring, even for a consensus list
― dyl, Thursday, 7 February 2019 02:31 (five years ago) link
this shit is a mess on mobile
― maura, Thursday, 7 February 2019 03:05 (five years ago) link
I voted for Tune-Yards, but that's my particular kind of blend, more than straight-up indie rock (with a few exceptions, mainly Sleater-Kinney).Love that the ballots are back, but can't click on titles to see who all voted for them--so how did you figure out who validated your choices, Brian? Did you just go for the most likely prospects? Already seeing several votes for Voivod, and ashamed of not listening, especially considering some of the crapola I did make time for.
― dow, Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:42 (five years ago) link
the thing about the tune-yards record is that a) it's nowhere near as good as the older records, b) it was very quickly engulfed by thinkpieces that overtook the actual record, and c) it came out in January. I'd actually forgotten it was a 2018 album until the list came out!
― theorizing your yells (katherine), Thursday, 7 February 2019 17:51 (five years ago) link
katherine otm on all points. I will ride for "Heart Attack", "Hammer", and "Now As Then" on that album... and depending on when you talk to me, maybe "Look at Your Hands"
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link
Love that the ballots are back, but can't click on titles to see who all voted for them
there's a search box on the ballots page, you can find all the voters for a particular artist/title
― geoffreyess, Thursday, 7 February 2019 22:36 (five years ago) link
Barry Bruner NTS Sessions 1–4 Autechre 11Brad Nelson NTS Sessions 1–4 Autechre 5Christopher R. Weingarten NTS Sessions 1–4 Autechre 24Phil Freeman NTS Sessions 1–4 Autechre 10Raymond Cummings NTS Sessions 1–4 Autechre 5
Pathetic.
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 7 February 2019 23:06 (five years ago) link
Brian? Did you just go for the most likely prospects? Already seeing several votes for Voivod, and ashamed of not listening, especially considering some of the crapola I did make time for.
The new Voivod album is great! This was my review when it came out, for what it's worth.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 7 February 2019 23:31 (five years ago) link
By "go for" etc. I meant looking up the ballots of people you might have thought the most likely to vote for that album, not that you actually *voted* in a way you might have thought somebody else did etc.Yes now I see the search box on the ballots page it works thanks.
― dow, Friday, 8 February 2019 02:18 (five years ago) link
And thanks for the review; I'll check out the album soon.
― dow, Friday, 8 February 2019 02:20 (five years ago) link
Cheers! Yeah, I figured out how to search the ballots...
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 8 February 2019 15:48 (five years ago) link
They're posting essays too:
https://www.villagevoice.com/2019/02/12/pazz-jop-a-promise-realized/
Lizzy Goodman--
This is all to say that for me the most remarkable thing about this year’s results is how unremarkable they are. For the first time ever, the critical establishment and the Recording Academy were in agreement, with Kacey Musgraves and Childish Gambino topping Pazz & Jop’s albums and singles lists while also taking home Grammys for Album and Record of the Year, respectively. Further, in this year’s poll, five artists made the top five albums, and those artists were female. It’s just what happened. It’s not the result of a deliberate attempt to recognize art by women, it’s a result of the fact that art made by women was, according to P&J voters, this year’s best.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 February 2019 04:57 (five years ago) link
Alfred Soto Tantabara Tal National 10Brad Luen Tantabara Tal National 11Christopher R. Weingarten Tantabara Tal National 8Jason Gross Tantabara Tal National 8Kevin John Tantabara Tal National 10Steve Kiviat Tantabara Tal National 10
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 February 2019 05:06 (five years ago) link
Crystal Leww Vibras J. Balvin 10Josh Love Vibras J. Balvin 5Steve Kiviat Vibras J. Balvin 10
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 February 2019 05:08 (five years ago) link
you're welcome!
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 February 2019 11:15 (five years ago) link
Too bad there won’t more votes for those. Not enough folks into “niche genres “ participating in the poll
― curmudgeon, Friday, 15 February 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link
Time Waits For No One
― An Andalusian Do-rag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link
Incidentally, Boy in Da Corner also featured the year’s deepest beats, courtesy of producer Dizzee Rascal. It’s every bit as great a debut album as Run-D.M.C. or Ready to Die or Pretenders or The Clash.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
That tune-yards album still sounds good to me---Garbus does something I don't quite get from any other source, and does it well: what counts most with me when putting together faux-lifeboat/triage "Top Ten" (basically a bs premise)(Haven't done comparative listening w prev albums, don't feel the need. Also don't read many rockrit thinkpieces so no prob.)
― dow, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link
I’d take a sip of Kelis’s milk-shake over a lick of Beyoncé’s jelly any day.
AMY PHILLIPSManhattan
o_O
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link
conference room etc
― Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link