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"tin machine" is david bowie's finest rock song

It's not a bad song! My Bowie controp is that Reeves was his finest guitarist-for-hire

ok these are two actual controversial opinions

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amon duul ii is underrated hippie bullshit

^ truth. keith forsey (who wrote "flashdance (what a feeling)" and "don't you (forget about me)") drummed for them

Underrated by who?

R. Kelly's music was always shit, regardless of his status as a sexual predator.

hi, Alex!

https://dakiniland.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/bloomcounty.jpg?w=590

this must be some kind of killing joke

syd > frank ocean

I agree w that actually

Same

most artists >>>>>>>> Frank Ocean

I posted the following already in the Abba vs. B-52's thread but as Tom D. pointed out, it belongs here:

My favourite Abba song was always this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEbZqnC2oN4

I think it is an outlier in their oeuvre. So much punch, so much drive, almost a punk song from 1973. After that it was all downhill.

the riff in Ring Ring reminds me of Suicide.

Eric Clapton peaked in Cream and everything since has been less a downhill slide than a plunge into an abyss of mediocrity. Everything good about Derek and the Dominoes is despite, not because, of him.

controversial?

On that note: George Harrison's entire solo career is overwhelmingly mediocre

Both on-topic and both wrong, but I am thrilled to see ppl taking the thread seriously

I doubt anyone except Tim Ellison will disagree with Paul.

I'd be surprised if there was a majority of people who don't think that Eric Clapton's best work was with Cream.

Old Sock is the best Clapton album

Genuinely controversial opinion:

Hobo Johnson is annoying, and quite likely a bad person too, but there is also something new and potentially interesting in his music, and I can totally understand people (especially teenagers) being into him.

Old Sock is the best Clapton album

― L'assie (Euler), Friday, January 11, 2019 8:46 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

finally someone with the guts to say what we're all thinking

Truly, Hobo Johnson is our Bob Dylan.

I heard Sting's "Love Is The Seventh Wave" at the grocery store the other day and thought it was a pretty good song.

I doubt anyone except Tim Ellison will disagree with Paul.

what am I, chopped liver ovah heah

the Cure's "goth trilogy" albums (Seventeen Seconds, Faith and Pornography) kinda suck and are v boring, esp to what came immediately after

god, that's so wrong. perfect post for this thread though

Shakey otm. They don't suck, but they don't move me, and the hysterics are often silly. I prefer their desolation in discrete doses ("Sinking") or in manic garb (most of The Top).

Shakey, you like most solo Harrison?

wouldn't occur to me to accuse seventeen seconds or faith of hysterics, they're both v subdued records. pornography? ok

True. SS just...vaporizes.

well "most" is probably pushing it, but "overwhelmingly mediocre" is an unfair descriptor of a catalog that includes the hands-down best Beatles solo album imo, and one of my favorite albums ever. There's a smattering of great songs across the rest of the catalog all through the 70s and 80s, plus his role in the Wilburys.

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also "primary" is such a fucking awesome song

I haven't listened to any of that era (outside the singles, which were clearly singles for a reason - they're the best songs on these) in a long time and was just giving them a listen this morning and their just so... blank. lots of tuneless plonking, minimalist arrangements that don't go anywhere. Smith got better once he started firing people left and right and decided to throw a few pop songs onto every release.

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Living in a Material World is mostly terrific, and I may be tempted to call it a near-great, weird album; the self-production shows how much he learned from George Martin and Phil Spector. And, yeah, he's got a bunch of good solo tunes. He never lost his innate sense of melody or how to play an ear-catching solo; he lost his voice and an impetus.

pornography is bruising, over the top, i've never liked it
faith really is kinda boring!
seventeen seconds is perfect, in my top 10 all time

Disintegration is easily the worst album to have ever gained "classic" status

Saying George Harrison's solo career wasn't up much is hardly controversial, I'd say it was the prevalent opinion until soppy Beatles nostalgia started kicking in - in the 90s? That's in the UK, soppy Beatles nostalgia has never gone out of fashion in the US, afaict.

Disintegration is easily the worst album to have ever gained "classic" status

― flamboyant goon tie included,

Won't say The Worst but I don't understand this album, and, boy, is it fucking long.

the back half of Disintegration is def a slog, but the first half is p towering, it does feel like the apex of platonic Cure-ness

or Platonic ideal

whatever, you know what I mean

prefer the single remixes on Galore; "Plainsong" is essential, yeah.

always held this one close:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce2grHLTGQA

"Fascination Street"
"Prayers for Rain"
"The Same Deep Water as You"
"Disintegration"
"Homesick"
"Untitled"

if you consider this a slog it's safe to say the cure is not your band imo

the back half of Disintegration is def a slog, but the first half is p towering, it does feel like the apex of platonic Cure-ness

― Οὖτις, Friday, January 11, 2019 3:10 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but Untitled...

Fascination Street is good

My usual take, which I hold to now, is that everything from and including Seventeen Seconds until and including The Top is uniformly godly, and everything after that is patchy (but still occasionally brilliant)

The received wisdom of Disintegration being their best album is absolute madness to me but I guess it came at the right time or whatever, I wasn't there (OK I was 1)

i first heard disintegration when i was 14, i have no objective opinions about it