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Kraftwerk were kinda shit and the influence of dub on electronic music gets overlooked cause of Eurocentricity

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:00 (five years ago) link

Radio-Activity is a fairly engaging listen as a whole, but the only pre-Computer World song that I have a need for in my life is "The Robots"

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:07 (five years ago) link

Y'all need the Ralf + Florian album.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:09 (five years ago) link

Y'all need the Ralf + Florian album.

Nah, fuck that hippie bullshit.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:10 (five years ago) link

This thread has taken a most unfortunate turn

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:10 (five years ago) link

hippie bullshit is....great

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:12 (five years ago) link

this is the best hippie bullshit you'll ever hear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToiLyjxABM0

tylerw, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:16 (five years ago) link

hippie bullshit is....great

It can be. I love Can. But that's not what I come to Kraftwerk for, and it's not where their talents lay.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:17 (five years ago) link

If it were hippie bullshit, I wouldn't have liked it.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:20 (five years ago) link

Can, whom I like a lot, tend to be baggier.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:20 (five years ago) link

Faust is the (often very good!) hippie bullsh*t

i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:27 (five years ago) link

hippie bullshit is....great

It can be. I love Can. But that's not what I come to Kraftwerk for, and it's not where their talents lay


I am exactly the opposite. I find Kraftwerk before they got into electronics much more interesting. In that clip upthread they consist of two thirds of the later Neu! and they are brilliant. When Hütter came back the band was more or less lost for me. I only discovered the early Kraftwerk much later.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:32 (five years ago) link

I like efficient German engineering Kraftwork too! They were just generally really great

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:35 (five years ago) link

First one I heard was Computer World probably around 2004 and to me it was laughably dinky and slight

next year I'd purchased Minimum-Maximum and suddenly everything about the band made sense

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:44 (five years ago) link

"tin machine" is david bowie's finest rock song

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 23:48 (five years ago) link

It's not a bad song! My Bowie controp is that Reeves was his finest guitarist-for-hire

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 10 January 2019 00:20 (five years ago) link

ok these are two actual controversial opinions

oof

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 10 January 2019 00:22 (five years ago) link

amon duul ii is underrated hippie bullshit

errang (rushomancy), Thursday, 10 January 2019 00:36 (five years ago) link

^ truth. keith forsey (who wrote "flashdance (what a feeling)" and "don't you (forget about me)") drummed for them

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 10 January 2019 00:54 (five years ago) link

Underrated by who?

Never Turn Your Back On Virginia Woolf (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 January 2019 01:38 (five years ago) link

R. Kelly's music was always shit, regardless of his status as a sexual predator.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 10 January 2019 22:16 (five years ago) link

hi, Alex!

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 January 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link

this must be some kind of killing joke

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 10 January 2019 22:58 (five years ago) link

syd > frank ocean

maura, Friday, 11 January 2019 04:57 (five years ago) link

I agree w that actually

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 11 January 2019 04:58 (five years ago) link

Same

Number None, Friday, 11 January 2019 08:56 (five years ago) link

most artists >>>>>>>> Frank Ocean

boxedjoy, Friday, 11 January 2019 10:11 (five years ago) link

I posted the following already in the Abba vs. B-52's thread but as Tom D. pointed out, it belongs here:

My favourite Abba song was always this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEbZqnC2oN4

I think it is an outlier in their oeuvre. So much punch, so much drive, almost a punk song from 1973. After that it was all downhill.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 11 January 2019 10:31 (five years ago) link

the riff in Ring Ring reminds me of Suicide.

fetter, Friday, 11 January 2019 11:10 (five years ago) link

Eric Clapton peaked in Cream and everything since has been less a downhill slide than a plunge into an abyss of mediocrity. Everything good about Derek and the Dominoes is despite, not because, of him.

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:05 (five years ago) link

controversial?

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:25 (five years ago) link

On that note: George Harrison's entire solo career is overwhelmingly mediocre

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 11 January 2019 14:28 (five years ago) link

Both on-topic and both wrong, but I am thrilled to see ppl taking the thread seriously

Twas in the fleek midwinter (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:37 (five years ago) link

I doubt anyone except Tim Ellison will disagree with Paul.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:39 (five years ago) link

I'd be surprised if there was a majority of people who don't think that Eric Clapton's best work was with Cream.

silverfish, Friday, 11 January 2019 14:40 (five years ago) link

Old Sock is the best Clapton album

L'assie (Euler), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:46 (five years ago) link

Genuinely controversial opinion:

Hobo Johnson is annoying, and quite likely a bad person too, but there is also something new and potentially interesting in his music, and I can totally understand people (especially teenagers) being into him.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 11 January 2019 15:10 (five years ago) link

Old Sock is the best Clapton album

― L'assie (Euler), Friday, January 11, 2019 8:46 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

finally someone with the guts to say what we're all thinking

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 January 2019 15:23 (five years ago) link

Truly, Hobo Johnson is our Bob Dylan.

pomenitul, Friday, 11 January 2019 15:27 (five years ago) link

I heard Sting's "Love Is The Seventh Wave" at the grocery store the other day and thought it was a pretty good song.

joygoat, Friday, 11 January 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link

I doubt anyone except Tim Ellison will disagree with Paul.

what am I, chopped liver ovah heah

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 January 2019 17:16 (five years ago) link

the Cure's "goth trilogy" albums (Seventeen Seconds, Faith and Pornography) kinda suck and are v boring, esp to what came immediately after

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:28 (five years ago) link

god, that's so wrong. perfect post for this thread though

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:30 (five years ago) link

Shakey otm. They don't suck, but they don't move me, and the hysterics are often silly. I prefer their desolation in discrete doses ("Sinking") or in manic garb (most of The Top).

Shakey, you like most solo Harrison?

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:33 (five years ago) link

wouldn't occur to me to accuse seventeen seconds or faith of hysterics, they're both v subdued records. pornography? ok

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:36 (five years ago) link

True. SS just...vaporizes.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:36 (five years ago) link

well "most" is probably pushing it, but "overwhelmingly mediocre" is an unfair descriptor of a catalog that includes the hands-down best Beatles solo album imo, and one of my favorite albums ever. There's a smattering of great songs across the rest of the catalog all through the 70s and 80s, plus his role in the Wilburys.

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:37 (five years ago) link

also "primary" is such a fucking awesome song

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:38 (five years ago) link

I haven't listened to any of that era (outside the singles, which were clearly singles for a reason - they're the best songs on these) in a long time and was just giving them a listen this morning and their just so... blank. lots of tuneless plonking, minimalist arrangements that don't go anywhere. Smith got better once he started firing people left and right and decided to throw a few pop songs onto every release.

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:39 (five years ago) link


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