Marvel Comics blabbery

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i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link

That article is incorrect in at least one regard, as it was first used in one of the like first five issues of ASM (was just reading about that particular issue the other day).

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link

Oh, you're right. Seems like Spider-Man uses it when he's (spoilers) sucking up the Sandman with the vacuum cleaner in issue 4.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:21 (five years ago) link

I was flipping thru a reprint of Am Fantasy #15 the other day, and was impressed by how economical the storytelling is... Spidey's origin, from introduction to costume, takes like two pages. You're so familiar with the "beats" of the story, from seeing it told & retold so many times; and then you're reminded that originally there were only those "beats" (a panel with the spider bite; a few panels of the wrestling match; etc.).

IIRC, Action Comics #1 is even more extreme -- Supe's origin story takes up just a few panels on the intro page, and the (brief) issue contains two full adventures and a cliffhanger.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link

(I guess thanx to Bendis, you can now pay $5 to see a few characters argue in a room for most of an issue.)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link

I had this when I finally read The Hobbit a couple months ago - Battle of Five Armies, three hours on the screen, three paragraphs on the page.

Also, I got caught in a Garfield wormhole while procrastinating at work (I ran out of Nancy), and those comics may not be funny, but they are pretty incredible at concision (in a way that, say, Peanuts isn't - it's more like a rumination)

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:02 (five years ago) link

It’s interesting to read the old Sunday “Peanuts” before Schultz had figured out that the first two panels (which some papers omit to save space) should be a separate little gag, and instead was using them to “extend” the main strip... which usually really f’d up the rhythm by sticking this superfluous padding at the beginning.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 03:36 (five years ago) link

*Schulz

i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 05:39 (five years ago) link

Read a thing last night that made me feel like a toooooootal Marvel newb dunce: the name 'Giant-Man' contains Pym's prior codename in its entirety.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:15 (five years ago) link

Wow, I've never noticed that before either!

Tuomas, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:40 (five years ago) link

i'd like to present both of you with an anti-no-prize for this one, smdh

tacticool spank bank material (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link

Yeah, that’s cool...

Hey, for anyone who’s been following along — has Marvel revealed the deal behind that mysterious new heroine who was retconned into the Avengers’ entire history a year or so back? I would look it up, but don’t remember her name, the “event” name, or anything else...

i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:15 (five years ago) link

during that "no surrender" deal? she was a plant by the grandmaster, actually his daughter. she wasn't part of their history, it was just a mind game so he could get the edge in the battle

mh, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:53 (five years ago) link

on a "today's comics" note i've got to give jason aaron some credit for having an issue dedicated to setting up an avengers support team ("agents of wakanda" since black panther's done the recruiting) that has a very ewing-esque lineup

i'm a sucker for anything featuring gorilla-man, though

mh, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:55 (five years ago) link

better known by his prior codename "Illa-man"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link

Tuomas and OL to the “things you were old when you realised” thread

sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 17:19 (five years ago) link

... i never realized that either ;_;

Nhex, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 18:24 (five years ago) link

picturing a version where he's wearing a karate gi now

mh, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 20:21 (five years ago) link

G.I. Ant-Man

Love is Scarface (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 20:27 (five years ago) link

It’s interesting to read the old Sunday “Peanuts” before Schultz had figured out that the first two panels (which some papers omit to save space) should be a separate little gag, and instead was using them to “extend” the main strip... which usually really f’d up the rhythm by sticking this superfluous padding at the beginning.

Bill Watterson discusses his frustration with this practice at some length in the Calvin & Hobbes Anniversary Book. Eventually, he demanded that the strip had to be bought as is or not at all. It caused some outrage at the time but all the papers caved pretty quickly

Number None, Thursday, 10 January 2019 10:09 (five years ago) link

Schulz, of course, would never rock the boat like that... he even stuck with a name he hated (“Peanuts”) for all those decades

i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 10 January 2019 15:43 (five years ago) link

I never thought about it before, but is Peanuts meant to signify some kind of "show about nothing" vibe, or is it just a random non-sequitur?

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 10 January 2019 15:53 (five years ago) link

So who decided on the name Peanuts? The credit usually goes to a man named Bill Anderson, a production manager at United Features Syndicate, who submitted Peanuts, along with nine other alternative names to the UFS brass.

The appeal of Peanuts was obvious, since as Nat Gertler, author and webmaster of a startlingly detailed guide to Peanuts book collecting, notes: “The name Peanuts invoked the ‘peanut gallery’- the in-house audience for the then-popular Howdy Doody television series.”

Number None, Thursday, 10 January 2019 15:54 (five years ago) link

Always assumed it was meant to be a loose homophonic allusion to the male organ of generation myself.

Love is Scarface (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 January 2019 15:55 (five years ago) link

pea is stored in the nuts

more ham for me myself and i (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 10 January 2019 15:56 (five years ago) link

Shultz thought it sounded diminutive, insulting; “like a name for something worthless, or an animal or child” (I’m making up that quote from memory, tho I think it’s pretty close).

i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:08 (five years ago) link

Schulz, of course, would never rock the boat like that

Well at the time that Peanuts was given that name, Schulz was an unknown cartoonist with absolutely no leverage over his syndicate. By the time he did have that kind of clout, the name Peanuts was far too well-established for him to do anything about it. He did however "rock the boat" about plenty of other things, perhaps most notably when he introduced an African-American character into the strip in the late 1960s:

Schulz also recalled a discussion with Larry Rutman, who at the time ran King Features Syndicate (which distributed Peanuts to newspapers). Schulz said, “I remember telling Larry at the time about Franklin—he wanted me to change it, and we talked about it for a long while on the phone, and I finally sighed and said, “Well, Larry, let’s put it this way: Either you print it just the way I draw it or I quit. How’s that?”

https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2018/07/50-years-franklin-charlie-brown/

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:13 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I didn’t think about that; he did rock the boat when it counted.

(I recall he considered a title change to “Charlie Brown” at some point, but didn’t want to cause inconvenience.)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link

For the sundays, it carried a "peanuts" in small script with "featuring Good Ol' Charlie Brown" in bigger script for at least a decade

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:29 (five years ago) link

In Denmark 'Peanuts' is called what would be 'The Radishes' instead. It's very weird.

Frederik B, Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link

xp Guess that sort of solved both issues!

i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link

(One of the “issues” being those expendable first panels — wasn’t he using a big panel with the title and sort of a sight gag?)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:52 (five years ago) link

The two "disposable" panels on the Sundays followed the large title panel.

sans lep (sic), Thursday, 10 January 2019 18:37 (five years ago) link

Ah, hmm

i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:03 (five years ago) link

the radishes!

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 11 January 2019 14:57 (five years ago) link

If anyone was tempted by Douglas Wolk's Marvel comics Patreon but hasn't joined yet, I highly recommend it. Fun discussion of Master of Kung Fu going on right now; Nocenti's Daredevil next week. It's a dollar a month.

https://www.patreon.com/douglaswolk/posts

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 18:04 (five years ago) link

In the forthcoming movie "Spider-Man: Far From Home," does Parker fight Wolverine in a graveyard, and then return to his hotel room to find Ned Leeds in a Hobgoblin costume? I'm just gonna assume that's what happens...

i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 00:09 (five years ago) link

Sometimes, when revisiting Marvel issues from the ‘80s, I Google the names of the staffers in those “Pro Files” with the little caricatures and data points (Favorite Performers, etc.). Kind of interesting to see what young Assistant Editors and the like ended up doing later in their careers.

Tonight I ran across this interesting blog entry on the subject: http://generaleclectic123.blogspot.com/2008/12/marvelous-tales-making-comic-book.html

(I’m sure there are entire books about Marvel that talk about this stuff in detail, but I’ve never read them.)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 07:28 (five years ago) link

Thank you for that very cool link!

E Pluripubis Unum (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 11:22 (five years ago) link

the Virgil/Matt lineup does not work at all
assuming those were just flukes if scheduling though

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 12:18 (five years ago) link

i dunno, the virgil/matt issues of ghost rider were underrated imo

“I'm the sexy gorilla and I'm going to hell“ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 14:20 (five years ago) link

It was a weird decision for Marvel to do an in-continuity adaptation of the Aeneid, and even weirder to hire Joe Matt for the job, but damn it...it just works.

E Pluripubis Unum (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 14:28 (five years ago) link

Guys, he's talking about The House That Jack Built.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:45 (five years ago) link

The worst Fables spin-off

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:05 (five years ago) link

I just this week learned of the existence of the Third Eye blacklight posters from the early '70s and...I don't think I've ever coveted anything more in my life.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nickderington/sets/72157608615767554/

https://www.coolandcollected.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/marvel_third_eye_poster_blacklight_thor.jpg

Why have more than 1,000 of my bucks disappearded? (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 03:36 (five years ago) link

I had the Amazing Spider-Man one

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 04:17 (five years ago) link

Omg the Hela one rules

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 04:56 (five years ago) link

very cool

Nhex, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 05:15 (five years ago) link

i remember hanging at someone's house who had the silver surfer one and it lodged permanently in my brain

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 05:52 (five years ago) link

I've been getting irrationally cheery when it's Immortal Hulk release day

mh, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 15:17 (five years ago) link


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