Who's the most famous superhero who has never died?

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rip big man

an erotic picnic with Ming (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 12:02 (five years ago) link

I haven't read the issues, but the reviews seem to suggest DD is merely at death's door and in a coma, but not actually dead?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 12:38 (five years ago) link

No he's actually dead. For several pages at least.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 12:45 (five years ago) link

I might start reading this with the Zdarsky reboot. It's been a totally disappointing followup to the Waid run.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 13:57 (five years ago) link

Daredevil also died in Shadowland, I think, although iirc there'd already been an announced 'Daredevil: Reborn' series when it happened.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 14:06 (five years ago) link

Underdog

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 14:58 (five years ago) link

Underdog was shot in the face at the climax of the episode 'Polly's Wild Ride'.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 15:11 (five years ago) link

Miles Morales hasn’t been around long enough to feel like a satisfying answer, but he’s fairly famous atm, and has never died(?)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link

Yeah, as I noted he's one of the few to have survived the hard reboot of the multiverse. Actually, I think Black Panther was, too, and I don't believe he's ever died.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link

Has Franklin Richards ever died (outside of Days of Future Past continuity)? He's been around 50 years.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:18 (five years ago) link

Actually, unless there's been a T'challa death I overlooked, that might actually be the answer to the question posed itt. No mean feat, maintaining your Marvel mortality for 53 years.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:19 (five years ago) link

death in a movie doesn't count then?

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:21 (five years ago) link

xpost Sorry, staving off your Marvel mortality, rather. The lure of alliteration overpowered my brane.

No, I don't think we're counting movie deaths here.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:22 (five years ago) link

The movies are Earth-99999 or something, rite?

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:37 (five years ago) link

for dc and marvel, literally every character has been killed at least a few times in canonical universe razing stories and then brought back to life. theoretically, this includes our comic doppelgängers as well.
that said, i think the current iteration of younger-skewing characters haven't been killed yet? moon girl/devil dinosaur, kamala khan (ms marvel), squirrel girl

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:40 (five years ago) link

The latter two died with the multiverse in Secret Wars. Moon Girl wasn't introduced until post-SW.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link

And SW is the only universe-razing Marvel event I'm aware of.

Shit, it just occurred to me: was Black Panther among the deceased 50% in Infinity Gauntlet? That would take him out of the running, if so.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:46 (five years ago) link

marvel zombies comes to mind. i dunno, your mileage may vary depending on how much IMAGINARY STORY/ALTERNATE UNIVERSE stuff you're willing to endure
gaiman/ superheroes aren't dead until they're forgotten /gaiman

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link

Yeah I think (pushes glasses up) we should perhaps restrict discussion of this topic to characters from earth-616 and/or (takes hit from inhaler) characters such as Miles Morales or Old Man Logan who survived Secret Wars and immigrated to the newly-formed Prime Earth (returns to perusal of AD&D Dungeon Master's Guide).

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link

A long time since I've read it but surely the only acceptable Marvel answer is Fred Hembeck?

Fred Hembeck ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED the SJWs, Punisher killed the Marvel Universe iirc

The latter two died with the multiverse in Secret Wars.

I’ve never read a comic featuring her, but surely Muslim Ms Marvel wasn’t created until about 30 years after Secret Wars?

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:29 (five years ago) link

2015 Secret Wars, bruh.

Surely I get a No-Prize for catching a sic mistake. Surely I do.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:32 (five years ago) link

have TMNT ever died?

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:47 (five years ago) link

apparently they sort of killed Donatello for a few issues

Number None, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:56 (five years ago) link

gonna have to say it’s no mistake to not know there was a remake of Secret Wars

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 18:06 (five years ago) link

It's not a really remake of SW, more like a Marvel version of Crisis on Infinite Earths. And it was quite good, better than almost any other big crossover Marvel or DC have ever done, including CoIE and the original Secret Wars.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 18:14 (five years ago) link

Shit, it just occurred to me: was Black Panther among the deceased 50% in Infinity Gauntlet? That would take him out of the running, if so.

I just checked my omnibus, and yeah, he was among them. After Thanos's fingersnap they have a scene at the Avengers headsquarters where a video wall shows images of all missing superheroes, and T'Challa is one of them.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link

Though if IC deaths also count, pretty much all the heroes who survived the fingersnap die in the later fight against Thanos. I think Silver Surfer, Starfox, Warlock & co, Dr. Strange, and Hulk are the only ones who survive, maybe a couple of others too?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 18:24 (five years ago) link

IC = IG

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 18:24 (five years ago) link

i feel like hembeck has died multiple times in his own cartoons btw

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 18:25 (five years ago) link

Yeah I thought he might have done.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 18:56 (five years ago) link

Man, I've been going about this all wrong.

Super Grover is clearly the answer here.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:19 (five years ago) link

Oh wait I forgot about the time he was gruesomely disemboweled, nm

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:31 (five years ago) link

maybe a better question is who's the most famous superhero who has never died for at least five months/ in a particularly public way that attracted comicdom's attention.
because they all died in one story or another and then came back as that is a sort of defining prerequisite for being a superhero.
But Supes, Batman, Spiderman, Hulk, Iron Man all died in multi-chapter NOT A HOAX NOT A DREAM storylines
so if we're going by that metric, i would maybe posit wonder woman? can't remember an extended "she daid" run of books... somebody wanna remind me when that happened?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:50 (five years ago) link

this thread condensed:

they have all died

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:52 (five years ago) link

i don't think kitty pryde ever died

Mordy, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link

xxp
The Sesame Street universe was destroyed/rebooted as part of the HBO move, and only Snuffy and Guy Smiley survived in the life raft.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:54 (five years ago) link

because they all died in one story or another and then came back as that is a sort of defining prerequisite for being a superhero.

this is only the case post... what, 1980?

had Matter Eater Lad ever been resurrected?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:55 (five years ago) link

probably by Giffen!

kitty died in Morrison's xmen

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:58 (five years ago) link

According to Wikipedia, Tenzil Kem is present in some “Retroboot” Legion stories.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:59 (five years ago) link

xpost Wait, what? No. She wasn't even in Morrison's NXM iirc. She did ride a giant projectile into deep space in Whedon's subsequent run but she was more just feared lost forever than presumed dead.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 20:02 (five years ago) link

xp when? i don't remember that

Mordy, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 20:03 (five years ago) link

In Superman #694, Matter-Eater Lad is revealed to have been masquerading as Mon-El's friend Mitch, owner of a local cafe. He reveals his identity by stepping in to save a woman trapped in a burning car, allowing Mon-El to continue fighting the larger threats.

As revealed in Adventure Comics (vol. 2) #8, Matter-Eater Lad is part of a secret team sent by the late RJ Brande to the 21st century to save the future in the Last Stand of New Krypton storyline.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 20:04 (five years ago) link

rmde

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 20:05 (five years ago) link

(Total aside, but I just saw a news blurb the other day positing that Bendis may be doing a Legion book. You're welcome, fans!)

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 20:06 (five years ago) link

did Matter-Eater Lad ever die such that he could be resurrected?

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 20:06 (five years ago) link

xp Yeah, I saw that tease... sheesh

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 20:10 (five years ago) link

RE: Kitty - WHEDON not Morrison; memory failed me. She was presumed dead! Not being in the book means you're dead!
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/kitty-pryde/4005-3548/forums/she-cant-be-dead-can-she-416473/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 20:33 (five years ago) link

I don't think Kitty's fate at the end of Whedon's run counts as death, because, A) by the end of the story she was still not dead, just incapacitated, and B) Whedon wrote it so that any future writer could easily bring her back, which is indeed what happened.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 20:43 (five years ago) link

no way she never died and she was not presumed dead (which anyway isn't the same thing as being dead)

Mordy, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 20:44 (five years ago) link


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