Come anticipate animated Miles Morales in SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE with me

The third was the moment when Aunt May is looking around her house at the various fight scenes, and frames appear 1-2-3-4 of tussling, and the final fourth frame is of Spider-Ham smashing one of Aunt May's plates over his own head. One of the funniest gags I've ever seen tbh

Joy and genius indeed.

A very pure lol

I love especially that it was Spider Ham's panel that sent May over the edge.

also also lol at Miles scrolling past Bendis when he was desperate for someone to talk to after his powers started manifesting.

this was great, so nice to see something that doesn't look like every-other-fucking-thing. only time my attention started to droop was in some of the emotional beats in the 3rd act which felt rote. otherwise appreciated the overall wild and loose tone

I'm going to see this again with one of my kids this afternoon. Something I've been wondering since the first time, though: how did he end up with Morales as his last name? Maybe we'll get a name origin story in the next movie.

Went into this with a cautious "it can't be as good as everyone says" in my heart but it really is as good as everyone says!

how did he end up with Morales as his last name?

that's his mom's name?

yeah. but isn't it unusual for a child to take the mother's last name and not their dads?

because if he took his dad's name he'd be Miles Davis

(it's pretty damn weird that his dad's name is "Jefferson Davis")

also unusual for a child to be bitten by a radioactive spider and gain superpowers iirc

and yet, it happens

It apparently happens a lot!

it's more common than you think

Even better the second time, especially the final set piece. And Spider Ham, when he glitches, makes that cartoon googlygoogly sound.

it's pretty damn weird that his dad's name is "Jefferson Davis"

thank you!

thank David Brothers in 2012: http://4thletter.net/2012/11/me-and-my-people-got-history-why-how-i-write-about-race/

This was extremely cool.

https://youtu.be/WvIphseK3pA

Great interview with the directors.

Ordered this print from Bottleneck Gallery. Glow in the dark bonus to a cool image for a Spidey fan. Nice when they have timed runs, printing as many as ordered, versus a limited run that seems to sell out in minutes.

it's sold out

Yeah, shoot. Came here thinking I mentioned it earlier in the thread, but no.

this is a perfect movie, isn't it? i might need to see it again to make sure

as i went on at length about upthread there are about 2-3 minutes, right before the emotional climax, of daddy issues that they apparently felt the need to shoehorn in there in order to tick a scriptwriting box - guys, hint: it's not the dad who needs to learn to to say i love you to his son, it's the other way around! - but apart from that i pretty much agree

https://youtu.be/9x2yXKckfuA

daddy issues that they apparently felt the need to shoehorn in there in order to tick a scriptwriting box - guys, hint: it's not the dad who needs to learn to to say i love you to his son, it's the other way around! -

STFU with this dad-ass bullshit, he needs to learn to have empathy for his son, and not to top-down impose his idea of what The Kids These Days live with based on his own experience

well, like i said, shoehorned

it's minor though

and it’s a huge point at the climax that Miles does indeed learn to say I love you to his dad

you’re gonna be in trouble when yr kids are 13 if you’re so “WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE FATHERS???!” already, at a rad cartoon

haha no no sorry, I'm saying it was all unnecessary. there was nothing that needed fixing in their relationship. but in a movie script something always has to Get Fixed in order for the hero to realise their true potential etc

Well, a case could be made that his relationship with his father *is* good, but it's the imposition of spider-problems that, for the first time and for a few different reasons, cuts off the line of communication in a healthy relationship. The movie could be seen as his (Miles) struggle to retain his identity when fate is forcing him to be someone he's not. He spends the entire time more or less getting Spider-splained, right up until that scene when he is literally tied and gagged, and it's only the final ignominy of being unable (literally, not figuratively) to speak with his dad that forces him to become his own Spider-man. That is, a Spider-man that above all else wants to keep it *real* - with Brooklyn, tagging, his school, his cool uncle, a dad who is spider-man dubious - while fighting against the forces trying to make it unreal (superpowers).

Dads are bad
Kites are fun
This derail is dumb
I want gum

How is it a derail? I'm saying it's not a flaw of the film, which was even better the second time, but a further take on a central theme.

don't mean you specifically, was talking about the "daddy theme" derail before yours

i was speaking to the point of this being a "perfect movie" and explained why i think it isn't! maybe i should have started a new thread..

I vote perfect.

Or at least as good as Paddington 2.

checks out

Wait, Paddington 2 was good?

Very good tbh

And I have v little patience for kiddie shit

paddington 2 and paddington 1 are both great.

Yeah, they really are.

Paddington 1 is v good, Paddington 2 is perfect

Loved both movies but I found the end of P2 really stressful (not including the prison dance sequence). It was like the Passion of Paddington! I needed another five minutes of toothbrush jokes or something to bring me down from the ceiling.

finally got around to seeing this and yeah it's fucking magical, loved everything about it, every frame is bursting with invention and it nails the heart of every single one of the spider-men (and spider-gwen!) it puts onscreen

otm

oscar isaac was spider-man 2099?!?

Paddington 2 was indeed good

Oscar is essentially a cameo after the credits.

exactly!