Who's the most famous superhero who has never died?

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Dunno, I abandoned DC prior to Flashpoint and never looked back. Maybe he's one of the Watchmen now.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Monday, 7 January 2019 19:18 (five years ago) link

Secret Wars aside, Peter Parker has never died, right?

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 00:13 (five years ago) link

(I'm talkin OG, 616-Peter)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 00:16 (five years ago) link

Yes he did, and then Doctor Octopus transferred his mind into Peter Parkers body and became Superior Spider-Man.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 00:19 (five years ago) link

Oh yeah

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 00:21 (five years ago) link

How 'bout Howard the Duck (just grasping at straws here)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 00:25 (five years ago) link

got kidnapped out of the Marvel Universe and went into witness protection in 1996, so is safe from death now

also not a superhero

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 00:33 (five years ago) link

Luke Cage maybe?

If Your Site Mod Vomits (Do This Every Day) (WmC), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 00:34 (five years ago) link

Jesus

― I can't dérive fifty-feev (Noodle Vague)

sounds like somebody needs to read irenaeus

errang (rushomancy), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 00:35 (five years ago) link

Peter also "died" during Kraven's Last Hunt.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 06:44 (five years ago) link

IIRC DC meant to kill Nightwing in the Infinite Crisis, but they changed their mind and offed Superboy instead. So Dick Grayson really seems to be the answer to this question, unless someone can come up with a better example?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 09:11 (five years ago) link

Dick Grayson gets killed by Luthor during Forever Evil.

Admittedly it's resolved in the same storyline as he needs to die to escape the Murder Machine and is nearly immediately resurrected (also by Luthor) but he is dead dead for a very short time. This death is also what allows him to go undercover in the Grayson book in a new identity.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 09:25 (five years ago) link

Ugh, Forever Evil

Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 09:30 (five years ago) link

Dick Grayson is also currently 'dead' in that following being shot through the head by the KGBeast in Batman, Dick hasn't no memory of his previous life and is living as a taxi driver called Ric (which is making the current Nightwang book less than rivetting as he mainly plays pool in a bar).

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 09:35 (five years ago) link

A long time since I've read it but surely the only acceptable Marvel answer is Fred Hembeck?

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 09:38 (five years ago) link

They brought back KGBeast? Wow.

Ok, so Dick isn't the right answer, I wonder who is? Maybe Sue Storm then?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 09:46 (five years ago) link

Ray Palmer?

He's shrunk himself into isolation plenty of times but were any of them teased as death?

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 09:53 (five years ago) link

I would argue Sue Storm is more famous than Ray Palmer...?

Still curious about the Thing, though. If you don't count Secret Wars, has he ever died?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 10:01 (five years ago) link

Fred Hembeck killed Sue Storm and The Thing.

In a (slightly) more serious answer, Sue's death in Secret Wars isn't an 'oh everyone dies so it doesn't count death's, it's a specific different thing. Does it even happen in Illuminati and not Secret Wars?

Talking of which, Reed killed the Thing in Latveria that time, which led to the whole FF eventually going to heaven to persuade Ben to come back to life. Jack Kirby was God in it.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 10:17 (five years ago) link

This is a good question though.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 10:22 (five years ago) link

Oh and there was also a future Invisible Woman that came back so two of them were in the timeline together and one of them died in a 'death of the invisible woman' storyline (unsurprisingly it was the future one).

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 10:25 (five years ago) link

Ah yeah, I've heard about the story of Ben's death, but I've never read it.

IIRC, Sue's "death" in SW was kinda ambiguous... I mean, she falls out of the life raft in SW #1, which would mean she died, but then at the end of the story the Sue Doom took as his wife somehow has the memories of 616 Sue, which could mean that this Sue wasn't an alternate universe version but the 616 version who Doom had saved. Though much of the finale of SW doesn't follow any kind of internal logic, so who know what happened there?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 10:29 (five years ago) link

Btw after having Captain America go Nomad under Nixon, and killing him off under Bush 2, have they done anything with him this time?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 10:56 (five years ago) link

Made him into a Nazi?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 10:57 (five years ago) link

I guess Bendis did a future story in which Daredevil died, but has it ever happened in regular continuity?

Number None, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 11:29 (five years ago) link

I guess Born Again doesn't count, because the whole "there is no corpse" narration by Kingpin means the reader is never supposed to think he had died?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 11:34 (five years ago) link

Daredevil is currently dead.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 11:51 (five years ago) link

In that he died a couple of issues ago.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 11:52 (five years ago) link

oh

lol

Number None, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 11:56 (five years ago) link

rip big man

an erotic picnic with Ming (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 12:02 (five years ago) link

I haven't read the issues, but the reviews seem to suggest DD is merely at death's door and in a coma, but not actually dead?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 12:38 (five years ago) link

No he's actually dead. For several pages at least.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 12:45 (five years ago) link

I might start reading this with the Zdarsky reboot. It's been a totally disappointing followup to the Waid run.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 13:57 (five years ago) link

Daredevil also died in Shadowland, I think, although iirc there'd already been an announced 'Daredevil: Reborn' series when it happened.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 14:06 (five years ago) link

Underdog

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 14:58 (five years ago) link

Underdog was shot in the face at the climax of the episode 'Polly's Wild Ride'.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 15:11 (five years ago) link

Miles Morales hasn’t been around long enough to feel like a satisfying answer, but he’s fairly famous atm, and has never died(?)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link

Yeah, as I noted he's one of the few to have survived the hard reboot of the multiverse. Actually, I think Black Panther was, too, and I don't believe he's ever died.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link

Has Franklin Richards ever died (outside of Days of Future Past continuity)? He's been around 50 years.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:18 (five years ago) link

Actually, unless there's been a T'challa death I overlooked, that might actually be the answer to the question posed itt. No mean feat, maintaining your Marvel mortality for 53 years.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:19 (five years ago) link

death in a movie doesn't count then?

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:21 (five years ago) link

xpost Sorry, staving off your Marvel mortality, rather. The lure of alliteration overpowered my brane.

No, I don't think we're counting movie deaths here.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:22 (five years ago) link

The movies are Earth-99999 or something, rite?

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:37 (five years ago) link

for dc and marvel, literally every character has been killed at least a few times in canonical universe razing stories and then brought back to life. theoretically, this includes our comic doppelgängers as well.
that said, i think the current iteration of younger-skewing characters haven't been killed yet? moon girl/devil dinosaur, kamala khan (ms marvel), squirrel girl

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:40 (five years ago) link

The latter two died with the multiverse in Secret Wars. Moon Girl wasn't introduced until post-SW.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link

And SW is the only universe-razing Marvel event I'm aware of.

Shit, it just occurred to me: was Black Panther among the deceased 50% in Infinity Gauntlet? That would take him out of the running, if so.

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:46 (five years ago) link

marvel zombies comes to mind. i dunno, your mileage may vary depending on how much IMAGINARY STORY/ALTERNATE UNIVERSE stuff you're willing to endure
gaiman/ superheroes aren't dead until they're forgotten /gaiman

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link

Yeah I think (pushes glasses up) we should perhaps restrict discussion of this topic to characters from earth-616 and/or (takes hit from inhaler) characters such as Miles Morales or Old Man Logan who survived Secret Wars and immigrated to the newly-formed Prime Earth (returns to perusal of AD&D Dungeon Master's Guide).

Hootie and the Banshees (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link

A long time since I've read it but surely the only acceptable Marvel answer is Fred Hembeck?

Fred Hembeck ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED the SJWs, Punisher killed the Marvel Universe iirc

The latter two died with the multiverse in Secret Wars.

I’ve never read a comic featuring her, but surely Muslim Ms Marvel wasn’t created until about 30 years after Secret Wars?

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:29 (five years ago) link


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