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very carefully

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Saturday, 5 January 2019 18:48 (five years ago) link

yeah the accounts you choose to highlight are pretty bizarre

k3vin k., Saturday, 5 January 2019 18:58 (five years ago) link

No not at all.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Saturday, 5 January 2019 19:07 (five years ago) link

ok

k3vin k., Saturday, 5 January 2019 19:07 (five years ago) link

What is cosplay left? People like AOC, Ro Khanna, Bernie? Or am i misreading

anvil, Saturday, 5 January 2019 21:40 (five years ago) link

No real interest in tone or 'civility' one way or the other, but strong messaging and vision is always good, give people something tangible and don't apologize for it

anvil, Saturday, 5 January 2019 21:42 (five years ago) link

ppl with limited political imaginations think of anyone even approaching a genuinely left stance as cosplaying

resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 5 January 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link

Is: Cosplay left = Podcast left?

Frederik B, Saturday, 5 January 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link

Yeah or online left and some pundits.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:01 (five years ago) link

Hard shots about the cosplay left from, uh... Allosaurus Golden.

louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:03 (five years ago) link

I dont get it, whats wrong w AOC etc? I dont listen to podcasts

anvil, Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:09 (five years ago) link

I don't think AOC is included among the cosplay left in that tweet?

Frederik B, Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:11 (five years ago) link

Ah ok, some of these things are so dense/compressed its difficult to know whats going on. It seems good to me that there are people with good policies and say what they are and dont feel need to hide them or apologize for them

anvil, Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:13 (five years ago) link

oh wait, that Sailor Moon girl! at a Bernie convention or something? when she got abushed by Infowars and said "I just want free healthcare honey" that was really good. I can get behind that, sign me up for cosplay left, I'm in!

anvil, Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:15 (five years ago) link

Yeah again, AOC/ actual politicians and activists aren’t really included in that. It’s a criticism of punditry like Nwanevu’s upthread.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:21 (five years ago) link

Sometimes I wonder if people even have the attention span to read entire threads or content themselves with the first tweet and call it a day

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 6 January 2019 00:42 (five years ago) link

tbf reading one tweet > reading more than one tweet

twitter is bad not good (||||||||), Sunday, 6 January 2019 00:57 (five years ago) link

Ppl want to write essays they should get a weblog

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Sunday, 6 January 2019 00:59 (five years ago) link

Yes, those weblogs! All the rage these days I hear

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 6 January 2019 01:05 (five years ago) link

disgusting that AOC’s college dancing is major news and yet bernie’s own dancing video received no criticism pic.twitter.com/1oazDqgFN8

— atlas slugged ☭ (@generalslug) January 4, 2019

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 6 January 2019 01:21 (five years ago) link

har

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Sunday, 6 January 2019 01:27 (five years ago) link

I was struck that Warren, a co-sponsor of Medicare for All legislation, did not mention it at her first two Iowa events. Asked if the omission was intentional: pic.twitter.com/NTxjNSQbPP

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) January 5, 2019

this is some zen shit right here

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 6 January 2019 02:50 (five years ago) link

that's some non-English shit right there

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 January 2019 02:56 (five years ago) link

the next play: "you're responsible for your followers"

Hi @AOC. Happy to continue this debate on the Floor of the People’s House, but it’s clearly not productive to engage here with some of your radical followers. #StayClassy pic.twitter.com/lZCO3oiLUZ

— Steve Scalise (@SteveScalise) January 6, 2019

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 6 January 2019 06:52 (five years ago) link

Eh, those tweets are horrifying? Also, I bet AOC is getting similarly bad things, so she would come out of that discussion a winner anyway.

Frederik B, Sunday, 6 January 2019 08:03 (five years ago) link

Fred c'mon even you know this is a bullshit line of attack.

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 6 January 2019 08:18 (five years ago) link

Oh come on, don't pretend you don't get it.

Frederik B, Sunday, 6 January 2019 08:21 (five years ago) link

I "get it" in the sense of knowing how nakedly cynical and completely out of AOC's control it is

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 6 January 2019 08:34 (five years ago) link

(totally separate side note, speaking just for myself: if Scalise perished in a fresh hail of gunfire I'd fucking laugh)

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 6 January 2019 08:46 (five years ago) link

me, a moderate: it would depend on the context of the hail of gunfire

Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Sunday, 6 January 2019 09:14 (five years ago) link

Fuck Steve Scalise.

those tweets are horrifying

Not even a little. The "kick his cane" one made me laugh.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 6 January 2019 10:57 (five years ago) link

1) Nobody can stop a few idiots from being idiots, and it's not at all AOCs fault. But she could still say something, and she should. Because speaking out against this shit is a good idea, and because AOC would win this fight. This is a white male Republican saying that he is getting shit from a WOC. She would win this fight.

2) The dirtbag left can't on the one hand claim that politics should be about setting libidinal energies free and shouting and fighting, and then wash their hands when someone goes to far. Come on. Either it's bullshit or it's not. And fair enough if you think it's ok, but a lot of people don't.

3) Everyone remembers 2016, and everyone knows this bullshit will be pointed in the direction of Kamala or Beto as soon as they are perceived as standing in the way of the great Bernie. A lot of people know they are going to be on the wrong end of this bullshit once again. So stop being disingenuous, and pretend they are showing a bad temperament, or that shouting at each other is somehow a prerequisite for passing M4A.

Frederik B, Sunday, 6 January 2019 12:09 (five years ago) link

literally nobody working with a president imprisoning immigrant children to die in the desert gets to be mad about name-calling. no more fuckin "play nice" crap, these people are vile monsters and can clutch their fuckin pearls elsewhere

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 6 January 2019 15:14 (five years ago) link

neither beto nor kamala nor anybody else will lose one vote by refusing to play the 'high road' game. they will, in fact, gain voters & donations if they call that shit out for what it is.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 6 January 2019 15:15 (five years ago) link

cosign 100%

fuck off Fred

sleeve, Sunday, 6 January 2019 16:18 (five years ago) link

People look at twitter way too much. It doesn't even cross my mind to look at it directly.

Yerac, Sunday, 6 January 2019 16:32 (five years ago) link

Treat it like a solar eclipse.

Yerac, Sunday, 6 January 2019 16:33 (five years ago) link

otm

its good for dog videos and seeing what ilxors are up to and stuff but otherwise youre just killing yourself quicker reading it

topical mlady (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 January 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link

Obviously if she responds she may have to say something along the lines of “I don’t condone that” etc but I don’t know that AOC should be forced to take responsibility for posts she didn’t make. That’s not something the right wing politicians would want to be made a two way street. It would be hard may be a good opportunity to call out the tactic.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:33 (five years ago) link

standing by for when lib media inevitably makes this her fault

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:35 (five years ago) link

“lib media”

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link

I don’t know that AOC should be forced to take responsibility for posts she didn’t make. That’s not something the right wing politicians would want to be made a two way street.

Exactly. Any response beyond "Condemn random Twitter assholes? You first, motherfucker" would be an act of surrender. I don't get the feeling she's stupid enough to fall for that.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link

Condemning random twitter assholes is one of the best things. Fuck them all.

Frederik B, Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:40 (five years ago) link

AOC doesn’t need to condemn anyone

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link

Also it is sort of comical that his immediate reply to her correcting his misleading tweet about tax rates was to say “hey look, some people who aren’t you were mean to me”

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link

They're all Russians anyway.

Frederik B, Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link

yeah fair i shoulda said "lib"

xxposts

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:49 (five years ago) link

I think a big reason why @AOC is so much better at politics than so many older, more experienced Dems is that she's never known a world where Republicans aren't cartoonish villains who reliably act in bad faith. So she treats them as what they are.

— Ian Millhiser (@imillhiser) January 6, 2019

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:48 (five years ago) link

Not getting a ton of attention today, but IMO Julian Castro's answer to a question about @AOC's tax talk was striking.

"George, there was a time in this country where the top marginal tax rate was over 90 percent."

and *woosh* goes the Overton Window. pic.twitter.com/OsTd1T3RAq

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) January 6, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 6 January 2019 21:26 (five years ago) link

he's running

21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 6 January 2019 22:00 (five years ago) link


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