there isn't any embarrassment when it comes on someone's playlist.
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 5 January 2019 18:40 (five years ago) link
Assuming that it makes their playlist to begin with.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 5 January 2019 18:47 (five years ago) link
but this honestly was one of the great bands of the centuries. lol wow
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 5 January 2019 18:49 (five years ago) link
sorry just meant this century, which hasn't been going on too long
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 5 January 2019 18:53 (five years ago) link
They were a fun little band for a minute ok but one of the greats ?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 5 January 2019 19:00 (five years ago) link
maybe not. i really liked them in high school and college and i think they helped me learn to appreciate a wider sonic palette at that time.
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 5 January 2019 19:10 (five years ago) link
So let’s say they were on of the bands that had the greatest impact on you. Totally fair and understandable
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 5 January 2019 19:14 (five years ago) link
I was in my mid 20 hanging around Brooklyn a lot at the time so experienced it totally differently
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 5 January 2019 19:16 (five years ago) link
i was 19 going on 20 when it was released in late 2008. i remember listening to it in my girlfriend-at-the-time's dorm room, for some reason the mattress was on the floor. i remember thinking i could tell it was going to be big--they were moving to a more accessible sound while still keeping true to what was unique about them
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 5 January 2019 19:20 (five years ago) link
it was one of the few songs you would hear at both "alt" type parties and frat parties, of which there were a ton at my college (sadly). the song was a rare common cultural reference point then--i feel like there is probably less a divide now between self-styled indie kids and mainstream frat types but who knows
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 5 January 2019 19:21 (five years ago) link
Counterpoint: It's not a Frankie Knuckles sample.
Terrible song though.
― zwei dunkel jungen (crüt), Saturday, 5 January 2019 19:23 (five years ago) link
As far as GAPDY goes, Dirty Projectors and Grizzly Bear were by far my favorites, and afaic the only ones still making good records.
Never clicked with AC, it felt like it wasn't for me, though this one definitely made it to midwest MFA parties and potlucks.
― change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 5 January 2019 19:25 (five years ago) link
the strongest emotion I have toward this album is resentment, specifically for ushering in carles nostalgia
― theorizing your yells (katherine), Saturday, 5 January 2019 20:11 (five years ago) link
GAPDY was not about those albums being similar or linked other than that they all dominated critic lists that year. There was a sense in 2009 that critics were relieved to be able to frame indie rock as embracing the weird and experimental and danceable and fun and electronic and worldly (and each of the albums seems to fit at least two of those adjectives), thus allowing them to go back to ignoring all the non-indie rock music that otherwise had been supplying those vibes. But that dynamic was as much about albums that had come out in the preceding years like Sound of Silver and All Hour Cymbals and the first Vampire Weekend album (and Strawberry Jam to an extent, but more importantly Person Pitch). 2008 was just the year it seemed to verge on the all-consuming as a critical frame.
In retrospect of course
― Tim F, Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:04 (five years ago) link
... 2008 was not indie rock’s resurgence but its last gasp?
― Tim F, Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:05 (five years ago) link
As for this album, I liked it at the time but haven’t listened in ages. I agree that Fall Be Kind was better and better still was the live version of these songs I saw in Berlin in late 2007 where it all sounded more like “#1” and the second half of “Safer”.
― Tim F, Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:07 (five years ago) link
Eh I dunno though there seems to be a sort of permanent pro indie rock circuit where bands play large clubs or small theaters, like acts like Chvrches or Kurt Vile
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:28 (five years ago) link
Tame Impala headlining Coachella seems like as much of a high point as it'll get at present.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:30 (five years ago) link
I mean it beats working!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:42 (five years ago) link
Though I'm not sure any of the GAPDY bands got much bigger than that anyway
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:43 (five years ago) link
CHVRCHES aren't an indie rock band!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:56 (five years ago) link
I guess the other thought I have is that 2009 looked like Fever Ray and Two Suns and Abnormally Attracted to Sin in my world, so all of this discourse is perpetually baffling to me
that and the vocals are not listenable, but that is my thought on most related bands
― theorizing your yells (katherine), Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:58 (five years ago) link
Well yeah, to me 2009 looked like Electrik Red and The-Dream and lots of uk funky and etc. and to others it was other stuff again, but to (it seemed like) 80% of critics it was mostly GAPDY, and that’s what seemed stifling at the time.
― Tim F, Saturday, 5 January 2019 23:23 (five years ago) link
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, January 5, 2019 4:56 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah they are, they are electronic but they are totally indie rock
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 5 January 2019 23:24 (five years ago) link
"this band isn't indie rock!" - an argument in 2019
― theorizing your yells (katherine), Saturday, 5 January 2019 23:43 (five years ago) link
It's not an argument, just mere fact. CHVRCHES are a pop band. If CHVRCHES are indie rock, then so are Erasure. Erasure aren't indie rock either.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 6 January 2019 00:14 (five years ago) link
Yeah they're indie stop being obtuse
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 6 January 2019 00:25 (five years ago) link
Like 3 people in indie bands in glasgow start a synth pop group = it's indie baby
lmao none more indie
― twitter is bad not good (||||||||), Sunday, 6 January 2019 00:31 (five years ago) link
Then by that logic, if they'd started a jazz fusion band you'd still be calling it indie, which is pretty idiotic.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 6 January 2019 00:35 (five years ago) link
They wouldn't do that tho because they're too indie
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 6 January 2019 00:37 (five years ago) link
Cool. Well, I'm gonna crank The Innocents now - that legendary indie rock classic.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 6 January 2019 00:40 (five years ago) link
Oh god I just cited them and Vile because they both seem in that middle class career wise, didn't know this was gonna get Turricanned.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 January 2019 00:50 (five years ago) link
I can’t really extract my overall feelings for AC from my feelings for Panda Bear solo which are very positive. Tomboy following Person Pitch is one of the nicest build upon/reinventions and frankly a breathtaking follow up to a widely-considered-classic-album (I think it is, too)— those two albums are prob my favourites of this entire GAPDY thing
My favourite of all this era tho was GGD both live and on record
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 6 January 2019 01:07 (five years ago) link
Agreed GGD were the best.
― Tim F, Sunday, 6 January 2019 01:12 (five years ago) link
yeah person pitch is my favourite ac-related album easily. tomboy is decent but not as like texturally rich so i never got into it in the same way though
ggd were and still are the best, eye contact is one of my favourite albums ever
― ufo, Sunday, 6 January 2019 01:32 (five years ago) link
Well yeah, to me 2009 looked like Electrik Red and The-Dream
These were two of my favorites too, and outside ILM I felt like an outlier. It took only, what, a couple more years for us to stand in place for the rest of rockcrit to catch up.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 January 2019 02:19 (five years ago) link
Black Dice put out their best album in 2009, to me they were second only to AC as the most exciting and unique band of this era (and Eric Copeland has a similarly stellar solo career, arguably eclipsing his main band just like Panda Bear). GGD were good but I always found them kind of boring, though they have tracks, and God's Money is pretty great all the way thru.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 6 January 2019 05:02 (five years ago) link
I don't consider GGD or Black Dice from the GAPDY scene, they feel like no1ze ppl that got dancey
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 January 2019 14:40 (five years ago) link
― flappy bird, Sunday, 6 January 2019 15:14 (five years ago) link
GAPDY '09 sounded like they were taking cues from BTTLS (SING THIS HOOK OH AY OH) and Anco in particular from YES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Gl6kI1_Xw
who burned down the MPP 9012live when they boys were in kindergarten (?)
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/yes/1984/merriweather-post-pavilion-columbia-md-6bdf2296.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 6 January 2019 15:37 (five years ago) link
Black Dice did a bunch of collabs with Wolf Eyes... That's not GAPDY vibes
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 January 2019 16:32 (five years ago) link
Black Dice and Lightning Bolt show pics
http://www.self-titledmag.com/2009/10/31/microwave-only-devils-night-with-black-dice-lightning-bolt-and-a-bunch-of-brooklynites-dressed-up-as-bat-for-lashes-miss-piggy-more/
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 January 2019 16:34 (five years ago) link
I'd agree there's a link between Black Dice and the earlier Animal Collective stuff, they toured and released a split EP together at some point right?
I still love this album although I admit I haven't played it in a while. Sung Tongs is by far my favourite of the group records at this point.
― Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link
Avay Tare and Eric Copeland had a band together! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Tones
― Frederik B, Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link
Maybe I'm off on this, but for a minor band AC plays some pretty big venues. I remember them selling out Stubb's in particular.
― campreverb, Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:35 (five years ago) link
Put it this way, AnCo is like Randall "Pink" Floyd in Dazed and Confused, they can travel between groups but he's still GAPDY, whereas Wolf Eyes are like Slater.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:48 (five years ago) link
Like they can be cool with each other and do a side project/go get Aerosmith tickets but fundamentally they aren't from the same scene
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link
Haha!
― Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link
AC played with Wolf Eyes a lot in the early days
― flappy bird, Sunday, 6 January 2019 20:20 (five years ago) link