Animal Collective - Merriweather POLL Pavilion

i'm into fgti's posts even though i love that song. i hadn't thought through the implications of that frankie knuckles sample.

i always saw that song as a kind of millennial ode to the vanishing dream of home ownership. the suburban life that counterculture always told people to resist, suddenly, doesn't even exist as a fallback for many of the types of people who would listen to AnCo. (obviously, for many, it never existed as a "fallback.")

They're dangerous and stupid

― flamboyant goon tie included,

otm -- loathe this song

the YYY album is still by far the best album on that incongruous list.

http://youtubedoubler.com/rlF5

the YYY album is still by far the best album on that incongruous list.

― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, January 5, 2019 5:47 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's Blitz! is not just my favourite Yeah Yeah Yeahs album, it's easily one of my favourite albums from 2000-2009 and it still holds up 10 years later. Merriweather Post Pavilion is a joke of a record from a joke of a band, and thankfully pretty much everyone realises this now. It certainly couldn't have been any more apparent to me in 2009.

it's only on ilx that "everyone" dislikes MPP. many consider it a classic.

the band's new stuff doesn't inspire enthusiasm but "my girls" is part of the indie canon

Many people considered Brothers in Arms a classic in 1985 yet attitudes had changed towards that album by 1995. Same thing applies to Merriweather Post Pavilion's reputation from 2009 to 2019. I'm of course not talking about sales here - Animal Collective were never that big and never could have been.

i just don't think there has been a consensus turn against it. the people who loved animal collective now mostly see that album as a really nostalgic artifact from a different time in their lives.

there isn't any embarrassment when it comes on someone's playlist.

Assuming that it makes their playlist to begin with.

but this honestly was one of the great bands of the centuries.
lol wow

sorry just meant this century, which hasn't been going on too long

They were a fun little band for a minute ok but one of the greats ?

maybe not. i really liked them in high school and college and i think they helped me learn to appreciate a wider sonic palette at that time.

So let’s say they were on of the bands that had the greatest impact on you. Totally fair and understandable

I was in my mid 20 hanging around Brooklyn a lot at the time so experienced it totally differently

i was 19 going on 20 when it was released in late 2008. i remember listening to it in my girlfriend-at-the-time's dorm room, for some reason the mattress was on the floor. i remember thinking i could tell it was going to be big--they were moving to a more accessible sound while still keeping true to what was unique about them

it was one of the few songs you would hear at both "alt" type parties and frat parties, of which there were a ton at my college (sadly). the song was a rare common cultural reference point then--i feel like there is probably less a divide now between self-styled indie kids and mainstream frat types but who knows

Counterpoint: It's not a Frankie Knuckles sample.

Terrible song though.

As far as GAPDY goes, Dirty Projectors and Grizzly Bear were by far my favorites, and afaic the only ones still making good records.

Never clicked with AC, it felt like it wasn't for me, though this one definitely made it to midwest MFA parties and potlucks.

the strongest emotion I have toward this album is resentment, specifically for ushering in carles nostalgia

GAPDY was not about those albums being similar or linked other than that they all dominated critic lists that year. There was a sense in 2009 that critics were relieved to be able to frame indie rock as embracing the weird and experimental and danceable and fun and electronic and worldly (and each of the albums seems to fit at least two of those adjectives), thus allowing them to go back to ignoring all the non-indie rock music that otherwise had been supplying those vibes. But that dynamic was as much about albums that had come out in the preceding years like Sound of Silver and All Hour Cymbals and the first Vampire Weekend album (and Strawberry Jam to an extent, but more importantly Person Pitch). 2008 was just the year it seemed to verge on the all-consuming as a critical frame.

In retrospect of course

... 2008 was not indie rock’s resurgence but its last gasp?

As for this album, I liked it at the time but haven’t listened in ages. I agree that Fall Be Kind was better and better still was the live version of these songs I saw in Berlin in late 2007 where it all sounded more like “#1” and the second half of “Safer”.

Eh I dunno though there seems to be a sort of permanent pro indie rock circuit where bands play large clubs or small theaters, like acts like Chvrches or Kurt Vile

Tame Impala headlining Coachella seems like as much of a high point as it'll get at present.

I mean it beats working!

Though I'm not sure any of the GAPDY bands got much bigger than that anyway

CHVRCHES aren't an indie rock band!

I guess the other thought I have is that 2009 looked like Fever Ray and Two Suns and Abnormally Attracted to Sin in my world, so all of this discourse is perpetually baffling to me

that and the vocals are not listenable, but that is my thought on most related bands

Well yeah, to me 2009 looked like Electrik Red and The-Dream and lots of uk funky and etc. and to others it was other stuff again, but to (it seemed like) 80% of critics it was mostly GAPDY, and that’s what seemed stifling at the time.

CHVRCHES aren't an indie rock band!

― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, January 5, 2019 4:56 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah they are, they are electronic but they are totally indie rock

"this band isn't indie rock!" - an argument in 2019

It's not an argument, just mere fact. CHVRCHES are a pop band. If CHVRCHES are indie rock, then so are Erasure. Erasure aren't indie rock either.

Yeah they're indie stop being obtuse

Like 3 people in indie bands in glasgow start a synth pop group = it's indie baby

lmao none more indie

Then by that logic, if they'd started a jazz fusion band you'd still be calling it indie, which is pretty idiotic.

They wouldn't do that tho because they're too indie

Cool. Well, I'm gonna crank The Innocents now - that legendary indie rock classic.

Oh god I just cited them and Vile because they both seem in that middle class career wise, didn't know this was gonna get Turricanned.

I can’t really extract my overall feelings for AC from my feelings for Panda Bear solo which are very positive. Tomboy following Person Pitch is one of the nicest build upon/reinventions and frankly a breathtaking follow up to a widely-considered-classic-album (I think it is, too)— those two albums are prob my favourites of this entire GAPDY thing

My favourite of all this era tho was GGD both live and on record

Agreed GGD were the best.

yeah person pitch is my favourite ac-related album easily. tomboy is decent but not as like texturally rich so i never got into it in the same way though

ggd were and still are the best, eye contact is one of my favourite albums ever

Well yeah, to me 2009 looked like Electrik Red and The-Dream

These were two of my favorites too, and outside ILM I felt like an outlier. It took only, what, a couple more years for us to stand in place for the rest of rockcrit to catch up.

Black Dice put out their best album in 2009, to me they were second only to AC as the most exciting and unique band of this era (and Eric Copeland has a similarly stellar solo career, arguably eclipsing his main band just like Panda Bear). GGD were good but I always found them kind of boring, though they have tracks, and God's Money is pretty great all the way thru.

I don't consider GGD or Black Dice from the GAPDY scene, they feel like no1ze ppl that got dancey

I don't consider GGD or Black Dice from the GAPDY scene, they feel like no1ze ppl that got dancey

GAPDY '09 sounded like they were taking cues from BTTLS (SING THIS HOOK OH AY OH) and Anco in particular from YES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Gl6kI1_Xw

who burned down the MPP 9012live when they boys were in kindergarten (?)

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/yes/1984/merriweather-post-pavilion-columbia-md-6bdf2296.html