No chicks in the shed, this thread is for MALES ONLY

I “get” that you shouldn’t be talking over people and being dismissive of others but I feel like there were already words for that. I’ve read the Solnit essay and I think the way she refers to mansplaining is more specific and gendered than the loose way I’ve heard it used out and around.

Also, full clarification, none of this really bothers me, obviously, or else I wouldn’t hang around the people I do.

yeah i'll defend that. to me manspreading is about male "self-expression" in a way that diminishes the ability of non-male forms of expression to exist. i get not liking being told to "take up less space" - i try to frame it as "am i making enough room for others to comfortably be part of this space?". and often, the answer is no, because men aren't socialized to take other people's needs into account.

Also anyone should post here I don’t really think a men’s only thread is a good idea

well then maybe nobody should post here and people should post to the men's thread that isn't labelled "MALES ONLY" in the title

why should nobody post here

on a COGH thread

about power washes and benches and stuff

That thread is a nightmare though. This one has free beer in the waiting area.

my hand really hurts

punched a wall

― Karl Malone, Friday, 4 January 2019 02:39 (twelve hours ago) Permalink

Well I hope that wall was either brick or there's a hole there now, because otherwise man card revoked nahm sayin?

Here’s a controp. Whether it’s “manspreading”or “mansplaining,” something in me always bristles against demands to “take up less space,” which was a term in my grad program people liked using. I am interested in others and always try to listen to others—my life can only be enriched by that, I feel—but for the time I am alive I am not going to actively work to make myself “smaller” in the world, I’m sorry. (Taking it as a given that “manspreading” isn’t really about taking up space on a train but is supposed to be a metaphor.)

― Trϵϵship, Friday, January 4, 2019 9:28 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Turning the irony switch off for a sec, if you're like me, it may be that in spite of your maleness, you're the kind of person who has *already* gone through life trying too hard not to take up space, so you feel a bit unfairly diminished by the suggestion.

if karl was srs about wall punching i hope hes good

if it was gruff man talk in character of thread then carry on

I think that’s it man alive. As a teenager I spoke in a fast and quiet monotone to try to rush through the things I had to say. I had to learn to not feel like I’m wasting people’s time when I speak. Might have gone too far in the other direction since then but still I never feel like being confident in social situations is a step toward “dominating” others or squeezing them out. To the contrary, being more “presentl in the room puts people at ease.

That thread is a nightmare though. This one has free beer in the waiting area.

― Trϵϵship

yeah, that thread sucks, it's definitely a good idea to just port all discussion over to a similar, but more stupidly named thread, as that will completely ensure that the discussion won't descend to that level again

@ Treeship and man alive, I think the goal is to hear the criticism and not feel diminished. I was very brutally tossed into a fire on a Facebook discussion about six years ago by a friend for 'taking up too much space' and felt extremely hurt by not only the content of the criticism, but the delivery. In a conversation with a white female activist friend subsequently, who does immense amounts of work for indigenous rights, I asked her, "in your life, how often are you told to make space by dint of your whiteness in the conversation?" She told me an opinion of hers was shot down as "colonizer thinking" every couple weeks or so, and that she had learned to get used to it. What I mean is, the more engaged you are, the more criticism you may face, and so it's a part of being a better ally, I guess

the goal is power washers and oil stains

we have lots of threads for mea culpaing maleness and no shortage of ppl besides willing to insist on the culpaing if mea isnt quick enough to do it nest pas

fuckit forgot to pick up washers for that oven door

xp fgti, thank you for your input.

i think the "take up less space" idea addresses a real concern. there are certainly some discussions where my input is not the most important input and i accept that. i was kind of just being descriptive about my experience--i "bristle against" it when i hear it, especially when it's more general and not just "take up less space in THIS conversation, specifically." (citation needed, i know--but i have heard this idea thrown around as a more general principle here and there)

i didn't punch a wall! just tried to think of what a real man would say. *flexes muscles to make tattoo on biceps smile or frown*

i tried to find a good gif and video embed for that and discovered a world of bodybuilders crushing apples with their biceps. and that's not all: many of these videos include a number of failed attempts, as the apple falls out of position and they have to flail around to get it settled again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtpgxS6qVS4&t=68s

just checkin km

in a manly way obv

check out this scab in my armpit!

https://i.imgur.com/Z4fFEys.gif

whoa karl, you've really bulked up since the last time i saw a picture of you!

good work bro

but yea, hydrogen peroxide for the scab

ito this oven door

the rubber seal is probably weak

there ought to be *some* air flow out the door, but not as much as is occurring

as noted the hinges may have been weakened during previous operations

inner seal also appears to be slipping

can i get thoughts on following:

washers placed strategically within hinge to tighten closing angle

two new seals, outer and inner (no idea how these are affixed)

new hinges

mix or all of the above

its really affecting the evenness of eg my shortbread pie crusts lads so any suggestions gruffly considered

is this Ask A Bloke?

can be

its the COGH males only thread (not enforced iirc)

Is this gas or electric?

Cabinet or freestanding?

Range on top or independent?

I mean, I've been hearing your cries for help for two days now, waiting the whole time for you to tell me something.

fair

none of it relevant to the door seal or hinges im afraid but i do respect ths code of full make/model and other categorisation info required for discussion-

um, if the heat leakage is def traceable to the gaskets sealing the door, then replacing them seems like the obviously indicated solution, especially if one seems loose to your (untrained) perceptions. I, too, have no idea how this ought to be accomplished, but seeking expert advice, assistance or direct employment strikes me as a sensible move.

First question might!

1. Find the model number for the appliance (on the door or on the back).

2. Open a web browser (there are several, widely available).

3. Type the model number into the search bar of your preferred search engine. Among the first results should be: aftermarket replacement parts.

4. If there are user-replaceable gaskets, buy them and try that. The hinge itself as well. And it will likely come with precisely the right mounting hardware, eliminating guesswork on that front.

Personally I don't like the idea of just adding washers willy-nilly and hoping for the best.

i think the "take up less space" idea addresses a real concern. there are certainly some discussions where my input is not the most important input and i accept that. i was kind of just being descriptive about my experience--i "bristle against" it when i hear it, especially when it's more general and not just "take up less space in THIS conversation, specifically." (citation needed, i know--but i have heard this idea thrown around as a more general principle here and there)

― Trϵϵship

i think it's ok to feel hurt and diminished when someone says something like that, _especially_ when that person is making a general (posb overgeneral) complaint and isn't addressing something specific you've done. it's pretty easy for me to personalize a general criticism; i just try to realize that this is what i'm doing so i don't wind up going #notallmen about it.

wtf

google it and get in a professional?

shocking man shed advice

‘it it wi’hammer

thanks ed

some of these lads idk ijdk

And you know how this works.

Look at any online forum with helpful advice.

- "Hey, I've got a problem with my oven door. It won't close properly."

- "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, say you didn't try adding any washers to the hinges first."

- "Well..."

- "What's his make and model? They might not even make washers for that brand anymore."

- "Did you turn off all power to the house first? Unless you're a licensed professional...."

well christ man if you know the rules then play the game

Fuck an oven, just cook wi' a bloody flamethrower from now on mate.

Better?

eat ur steak raw bro

yes good

Oven?! Man use bbq.

wow check yr climate privilege

You got a jacket, right?

i love style is thataway

since a muscru gif has been posted in this revive it's only fair to ask the gentlemen herein for their thoughts on piss play

I changed the brake pads on my car with my dad over Xmas break. Turned out one of the calipers was bad so we had to replace one of those too.

Wasn’t as satisfying an experience as I wanted it to be tbh. Glad to have the time with dad, but man I’m paying for all car work from now on.

Unfortunate timing with that post.