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I'll definitely take that advice, Ed. Is there a particular oil that is best suited for seasoning it?

calzino, Friday, 4 January 2019 13:01 (five years ago) link

can I ask a question about hobs. we’re getting a new kitchen next year: gas or induction ?

there are no good podcasts (||||||||), Friday, 4 January 2019 13:03 (five years ago) link

sheeit! you can get a very impressive looking 40" carbon steel wok for £20 on e-bay.

calzino, Friday, 4 January 2019 13:05 (five years ago) link

actually centimetres, lol that would huuuge!

calzino, Friday, 4 January 2019 13:12 (five years ago) link

I've ordered a more sensible 30cm one for £13.95.

calzino, Friday, 4 January 2019 13:14 (five years ago) link

according to the seller vegetable oil will season it good.

calzino, Friday, 4 January 2019 13:15 (five years ago) link

personally I think you can't beat a gas hob, but inductions appeal to me too

kinder, Friday, 4 January 2019 13:22 (five years ago) link

Yea, I use whatever veg/canola type of oil i have around for the wok and cast iron. I was interested in a carbon steel pan to try to migrate from non-stick pans for things like cooking eggs etc. Cast iron is just too heavy for quick things. I rarely use it. Although I did get a small tamagoyaki omelette pan that is really, really great.

Yerac, Friday, 4 January 2019 13:23 (five years ago) link

xpost I prefer gas over induction but I know some countries it's too difficult to do gas. Induction is totally fine if gas seems annoying to put in.

Yerac, Friday, 4 January 2019 13:25 (five years ago) link

My wife, for whom cooking has always been the enemy, has the bad notion that smaller bowls means less work cleaning up, so she will mix stuff in bowls barely big enough to hold the ingredients, and stuff doesn't get properly mixed. Mix in bowls large enough to really move stuff around, not just turn one teaspoonful at a time.

Juul Haalmeyer Dancers washout (WmC), Friday, 4 January 2019 13:39 (five years ago) link

I've got this huge pyrex mixing bowl with a plastic cover that clips over it. Nice bit of kit.

calzino, Friday, 4 January 2019 13:48 (five years ago) link

Once you start putting containers aside to wash later, unless you've got a huge kitchen - you'll soon be in trouble.

calzino, Friday, 4 January 2019 13:53 (five years ago) link

My kitchen is quite small. So I got loads of wall mounted hooks and put a couple of shelves below them, so everything is within easy reach.

calzino, Friday, 4 January 2019 14:01 (five years ago) link

I have such anxiety about messy kitchens that I end up washing every single thing as soon as it's used. My spouse loves it when he cooks, but I know it annoys other people who want control of their kitchen.

Yerac, Friday, 4 January 2019 14:03 (five years ago) link

That knife is a great deal; I’ve had the santoku version for years and use it almost exclusively over my much more expensive German chefs knife.

― joygoat, Friday, January 4, 2019 12:48 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i actually didn't know that there was a victorinox santoku for the same price, that's dope

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 January 2019 14:59 (five years ago) link

thinking about knives/knife techniques makes cooking seem unfun, I dunno. sure some knives help you cut more easily but if you're not cooking at all, worrying about cutting "better" or whatever may just make you say "fuck this I'm ordering in again".

I don't know anything about what makes a knife good or bad so I went to Kappabashi Street and went to a good knife store and said "tell me what to buy" and I bought a couple of them and they are very nice.

L'assie (Euler), Friday, 4 January 2019 15:16 (five years ago) link

I like to break stuff apart with my hands and use scissors to cut some stuff quickly when it doesn't matter. But I do like the new knives I got last year. I did way too much research, but it's kind of fun.

Yerac, Friday, 4 January 2019 15:18 (five years ago) link

just been reading that flaxseed oil is best for seasoning my cast iron pan that arrived today, but they don't sell it locally and I'm just going to use some light olive oil. It's been sold as "pre-seasoned" but I figured another seasoning wouldn't do any harm.

calzino, Friday, 4 January 2019 15:23 (five years ago) link

idk euler

if youre not cooking at all and intimidated by the thought of it, a few good basic use-everyday utensils are exactly what you need to take advice on to eliminate the common irritants

topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 4 January 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link

cleaning as you go def. makes sense imo as there's always a few moments between having to get back to the cooking. Especially if you have mise en place in place

hey, i'm curious abt this tamagoyaki pan. have seen the tamago-making procedure before and it sounds so different to how i've ever made a omelet/eggs previously. do you have a trick or any insight?
xpost to Yerac

form that slug-like grex (outdoor_miner), Friday, 4 January 2019 15:48 (five years ago) link

no idea why this is the case, but i've found saturated fats work better for seasoning- butter or coconut oil are my go-to fwiw

form that slug-like grex (outdoor_miner), Friday, 4 January 2019 15:52 (five years ago) link

This is the one I got. It might be something about the pan, but it cooks eggs so well there is really no trick to it. PAN

Yerac, Friday, 4 January 2019 16:06 (five years ago) link

"Aubergine Purple" This colour signals glory and splendor, pure joy of life.

^^^^ ^^^
it looks good and this a deal sealer for sure!

calzino, Friday, 4 January 2019 16:13 (five years ago) link

I still use a butter/oil but egg just basically slides around on it. Be careful resting anything wood on the edge though. It will burn.

Yerac, Friday, 4 January 2019 16:21 (five years ago) link

I keep a simple kitchen (certainly easier for a plant-based eater who doesn't bake or make fresh pasta).

My only electric appliances are the stove/oven, the microwave, a nice (Bamix) immersion blender, and a cheap blade coffee grinder dedicated to spice grinding. I've had more gizmos like food processors, but for all, their annoyances particularly with cleanup outweighed their incremental value.

Cookware is a big pressure cooker, a carbon steel wok and paella pan that doubles as a roasting pan, and some legacy non-stick cookware that over time I'll replace with more carbon steel (fry pan(s)) or multi-layer stainless (stockpots). Pressure cookers are essential for those who eat legumes regularly, and even as an omnivore they made my soup stocks far richer; I pretty much cook all soups in the pressure cooker these days. Carbon steel is nicer than cast iron, lighter/smoother surface/doesn't fracture if dropped, but requires seasoning.

Seasoning tip: After stripping to bare metal with oven cleaner/vinegar/soap or in my case power tools, apply the thinnest layer of flax oil (cheapest will be the drug store gel caps) with a paper towel, and broil for an hour. This provides an impenetrable polymerized surface preventing rust, but it won't be non stick. For that season again with a cooking oil with higher saturated fat content (coconut oil/ghee/lard etc) which will be less durable but non-stick.

I learned how to sharpen my German knife set to peel daikon (I became a knife hobbyist for a winter), but like some pros with the whole knife roll, I gravitate to a ceramic knife for most veg prep. Can't be dropped or used to pry at meat joints, but its lighter and sharper than exhaustively sharpenned steel knives and keeps its edge for a couple years of use before it needs a factory resharpening. No one bought the black Kyocera nakiri I pined for this Xmas :(. If you get the largest polypropylene cutting board that will fit your sink, you won't need all those little bowls for mise en place, the margins of the board will be enough.

Re: spices, make friends with your local Indian grocer. I've the good fortune to have an Indian immigrant owned international grocer near me, affiliated with their restaurant wholesale warehouse, so I routinely buy 8 oz of spices for half the price of those tiny McCormick bottles. Whole spices will last practically indefinitely compared to pre-ground ones, so I buy whole and grind as needed.

Sanpaku, Friday, 4 January 2019 16:28 (five years ago) link

Omitted tip: don't bother with a cutting board with rubber feet, a damp dishtowel underneath is as good.

Sanpaku, Friday, 4 January 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link

anyone recommend a good cheapo slow cooker? I've not developed a slow cooker game at all and it looks like a nice lazy option to have.

calzino, Friday, 4 January 2019 16:37 (five years ago) link

oh and one important tip that hasn't been covered on here yet today is: get some powder free latex gloves if you are handling chopped chillis/scotch bonnets etc. And for blokes: never go for a piss if you've been foolish enough to handle them without gloves.

calzino, Friday, 4 January 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link

uh, men and women should be careful about sticking fingers anywhere for hours after cutting hot peppers.

I think I have had to take out my contact lenses with my wrists before.

Yerac, Friday, 4 January 2019 16:58 (five years ago) link

yeah it is absolute torture getting it in yr eyes.

calzino, Friday, 4 January 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link

I went through a weird phase once where I wanted sliced jalapenos on everything. I had to eventually stop because of all the surprise burning.

Yerac, Friday, 4 January 2019 17:04 (five years ago) link

slow cooker: other than making great stock, never really had good results from it and not particularly impressed when other people serve slowcooked meals either. maybe just need to get better skills idk

thomasintrouble, Friday, 4 January 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link

Lidded casserole dish in the oven did the business last night when making stroganoff with beef shin.

suzy, Friday, 4 January 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link

I was thinking : is there a diff between slow cooker and just turning down the oven to low.

calzino, Friday, 4 January 2019 17:25 (five years ago) link

unless your life will be incomplete without the ability to cook mushy braises while you're out of the house, don't buy a slow cooker

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 January 2019 17:28 (five years ago) link

i like the aspect of being able to put on a (slow cooking) pot of beans for a hour or two and just forget about it. on the stove you generally have to keep an eye on 'em so they don't boil too hard, or conversely just sit there in hot water.

i hate to recommend bleach for anything, but it cuts through capsaicin lickety-split, if it's an emergency pour a bit on hand/finger and rinse. have tried olive oil to remove from hands before since capsaicin is fat soluble, but that doesn't work as well

form that slug-like grex (outdoor_miner), Friday, 4 January 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link

Another vote for that knife as the best one you can get for so little money.

Another vote here. Tho I have a slightly different Victorinox. Use it much more often than the 3x as expensive Japanese one I have.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 4 January 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link

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The magic ingredient is capsaicin, from hot peppers. Just saying.

Sanpaku, Friday, 4 January 2019 17:56 (five years ago) link

if you do get chili in your eye I recommend putting milk in a shot glass (or anything of a similar size) and keeping that pressed against your eye with your head tilted back

ogmor, Friday, 4 January 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link

I do that anyway

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Friday, 4 January 2019 18:13 (five years ago) link

and then go hang out at the playground

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Friday, 4 January 2019 18:13 (five years ago) link

I think I have had to take out my contact lenses with my wrists before.

― Yerac, Friday, January 4, 2019 4:58 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol 100% although ironically wearing contacts also protects your eyes from onion vapors, so ideally you would leave them in for chopping onions and then remove before chopping anything else.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 4 January 2019 18:20 (five years ago) link

I posted this in the GBBO thread but w/e this is my first attempt at a cheesecake ever: https://imgur.com/gallery/UL9i0dF

Used my Instant Pot and the recipe book that came with it, only adjustment was to substitute stevia for the sugar. The color of the cream cheese is WAAAY off, and the ganache ended up being too thick (used too much chocolate), and I waited too long to pour it over the cheesecake so it doesn't look that smooth. But it's tasty!

Siouxie Sioux Vide (Leee), Friday, 4 January 2019 18:25 (five years ago) link

ha silby

mick signals, Friday, 4 January 2019 18:30 (five years ago) link

I love slow-cooked meat stews in my slow cooker but I'm not gonna fart about making bolognese or some side dish in it. it's good if it's more convenient for your day to start cooking 6 hours (or whatever) before you want to eat rather than 2. otherwise I don't really get the whole 'time-saving' aspect - you're still doing the same amount of prep.

kinder, Friday, 4 January 2019 20:42 (five years ago) link

Yeah, a slow cooker isn't so much about time-saving as about time-shifting

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 4 January 2019 20:58 (five years ago) link

a slow cooker allows you to leave the house while deliciousness increases

ogmor, Friday, 4 January 2019 21:16 (five years ago) link

i no longer eat meat and really feel like slow-cooked meats are the only thing they're particularly useful for - i guess porridge and grits and that sort of thing too - but i always found i preferred meat cooked slow and low in the oven than in the slow cooker. ymmv

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 4 January 2019 21:23 (five years ago) link

I had baked beans in the oven today. I just left them in the oven while I went out of the house to run errands and the deliciousness increased, but no slow cooker was involved. This can also happen with pot on the stovetop. The added abilities of a slow cooker are fairly marginal, and I rarely use the one we own, but the ability to use a timer to delay cooking is handy sometimes when no one can attend to the dish for a great many hours.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 4 January 2019 21:26 (five years ago) link

I'm relaxed about a lot of risks but I can't leave the hob on while I'm out

ogmor, Friday, 4 January 2019 21:49 (five years ago) link


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