Pazz and Jop.

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deadline is noon tomorrow, 9 fuckin a.m. on the West Coast so best to get it done tonight ... in case anyone needed prodding

alpine static, Friday, 4 January 2019 04:12 (five years ago) link

i did. working on it

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 4 January 2019 04:28 (five years ago) link

i missed it last year because ... i dunno, i guess i thought it was due by midnight or something, like most of these things? anyway.

alpine static, Friday, 4 January 2019 04:34 (five years ago) link

reminder: this closes in about an hour and a half

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 4 January 2019 15:25 (five years ago) link

(just submitted mine; also, one of the other useful things about glenn's stats is remembering how the fuck I did my score tiers the last time, although every year I change them because the distribution feels wrong)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 4 January 2019 15:27 (five years ago) link

songs list was rough to make this year, i have about 50-70 tracks i really enjoyed but a real ranking/top ten has yet to clarify itself

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 4 January 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link

I switched up my scoring for the first time and went 12-12-11-11-10-10-9-9-8-8. Seemed cool to do and also appropriate.

geoffreyess, Friday, 4 January 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link

Sent!

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 January 2019 17:04 (five years ago) link

I think this year I went 17-14-14-10-10-10-10-5-5-5 -- I wanted a clear #1 but 21/12 points seemed too big a gap for the first and second tier, and I didn't want to knock any albums into the bottom tier, especially since giving a sub-10 score is kind of punishing them in the rankings.

obviously I am way overthinking this because very few other people are going to vote for some of these

theorizing your yells (katherine), Friday, 4 January 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link

i did 16-11-10-9-9-9-9-9-9-9

maura, Friday, 4 January 2019 17:47 (five years ago) link

unless something is utterly killing it for me, i tend to go unweighted and i did this year

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 4 January 2019 18:36 (five years ago) link

If anybody else votes for any of my albums other than CHVRCHES, I'll be mildly shocked. If anybody else votes for any of my songs other than Robyn, I'll be stunned. Unless Maura was being coy in Slate and actually voted for "Strange Embrace" after all.

Plus, I only changed my mind on 2 things since voting! So far...

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 4 January 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link

25 25 10 10 5 5 5 5 5 5 here ... I think. I know I ended up with six 5s. Maybe it was 20 20 15 15

Shit! I meant to screenshot before submitting.

alpine static, Friday, 4 January 2019 20:11 (five years ago) link

i really only had 3-5ish albums i hated to leave out this year ... that's much lower than usual.

alpine static, Friday, 4 January 2019 20:12 (five years ago) link

Hello all!
Happy new year and thank you for your patience with us. The critic's poll was an enormous success with many more voters than we could've possibly anticipated, and wrestling the data took us a bit longer than we hoped. But, thanks to all who took the time out to participate, that is a good problem to have.

The results will be published this week, with the albums list on Wednesday, Jan 9 and the songs list on Thursday, Jan 10. Accompanying essays will be running alongside the polls.

Side note: If you sent a pitch for the poll it was deeply appreciated, but many excellent ideas pitched didn't correspond to the poll data and so were not accepted. If you're interested in re-tooling these ideas for a Grammys package Uproxx is running, please re-send to caitlin.white (at) uproxx.com as soon as possible.

Thanks again and looking forward to sharing the results with our community,

Caitlin White + Uproxx Music Team

dow, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 02:04 (five years ago) link

critic's poll

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 02:18 (five years ago) link

they were only expecting one voter to respond

dyl, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 04:41 (five years ago) link

they were only expecting one voter to respond
Well then!

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--JqnVnm_u--/getnvb6ucfffvtfqupf4.jpg

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 06:14 (five years ago) link

https://uproxx.com/critic-polls/uproxx-music-critics-poll-2018-albums/

a somewhat odd list for a consensus critics poll, leaning fairly indie especially compared to the EOY aggregates etc.

ufo, Thursday, 10 January 2019 03:22 (five years ago) link

nice to see foxing get some love at least i guess

ufo, Thursday, 10 January 2019 03:24 (five years ago) link

Aviary at #193?????

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 10 January 2019 05:48 (five years ago) link

yeah that was especially strange to me, it unfortunately hasn't been anywhere near the critical favourite that have you in my wilderness was, but only getting a single vote there is still shocking

ufo, Thursday, 10 January 2019 05:57 (five years ago) link

is there not a page that shows all the singles results? I eventually figured out "thank u, next" was #1 just by clicking on it and finding its individual page, but surely there's a ranking page I'm overlooking.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 10 January 2019 14:41 (five years ago) link

i think those are going up properly tomorrow

ufo, Thursday, 10 January 2019 14:50 (five years ago) link

My Uproxx ballot if anyone cares...

https://uproxx.com/critics/brian-oneill/

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 13 January 2019 14:40 (five years ago) link

someone start an Uproxx Poll thread and keep that major-label-tainted shit outta here

alpine static, Sunday, 13 January 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link

lol

dyl, Sunday, 13 January 2019 18:04 (five years ago) link

Just Gimmee Indie Polls!

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 14 January 2019 14:14 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I looked at the VV site for the first time in months to see if there was anything about Pazz & Jop yet (no), but what they do have is a whole bunch of Christgau's essays, accompanied by scans of the whole insert for that year. You can get the essays on Christgau's own site, but the scans would be worth looking at for anyone who doesn't have the original copies.

http://www.villagevoice.com/

clemenza, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 12:55 (five years ago) link

looks like they're posting one year per day, with 2002 having been posted most recently with 2003 coming up sometime tomorrow(/today)

dyl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 05:29 (five years ago) link

It's here.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 15:06 (five years ago) link

First time there's been an all female top 5?

Oor Neechy, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:27 (five years ago) link

if the essay had been less of a j/o session that might have been more deeply explored

maura, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:29 (five years ago) link

Pazz and J/op

You can't see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link

Are there any comments? I won't start whining yet--last year it took a couple of extra days before comments were posted. But I'm ready to start whining at a moment's notice if need be.

clemenza, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link

To my ears, and maybe mine alone, Musgraves has finally (started making CDs for CD Baby in middle school or something) reduced herself to a complete nonentity---but the melts-in-your-mind effect-noneffect seems meant as solace, and is perhaps taken that way, once daily or whatever, in this churning time. If so, cool, whatever gets you through the night, and past that, a lot of good stuff here, far as I've scrolled so far. (Musgraves also topped the Nashville Scene poll.)

dow, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link

I'm skimming the "Pazz & Jop: The Top 50 Singles of 2018" piece, and it's "I, I, I"--"The first time I voted in this poll I was 18 years old..."--with a "by the Editors" byline. I don't get that at all.

clemenza, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:49 (five years ago) link

Musgraves has finally (started making CDs for CD Baby in middle school or something) reduced herself to a complete nonentity---but the melts-in-your-mind effect-noneffect seems meant as solace, and is perhaps taken that way, once daily or whatever, in this churning time.

Thanks for nailing what I can't like this record.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:55 (five years ago) link

You and I may have been the only ones who called her re the sub-standard greeting card verse of the previous offering. I dunno---I never got into Moby or New Pornographers either (even though one New P was Neko, whom I usually like).

dow, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link

Nice to see the 'Black Genius' essay completely overlook Kamasi Washington, Makaya McCraven, and Shabaka Hutchings, all of whom had albums in the top 40...

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link

i dislike and regret that i contributed to something that gave an essay to someone i consider horrible and abusive

also the results are super boring

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link

interesting to see high placements for artists who probably won't even crack the 77 here (some regrettably!)

omar little, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 17:56 (five years ago) link

"someone i consider horrible and abusive"

I gotta ask: Christgau?

clemenza, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 18:03 (five years ago) link

nope but also sure why not xgau is certainly a shithead who sucks too

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 18:18 (five years ago) link

I'm skimming the "Pazz & Jop: The Top 50 Singles of 2018" piece, and it's "I, I, I"--"The first time I voted in this poll I was 18 years old..."--with a "by the Editors" byline. I don't get that at all.

― clemenza, Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:49 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That line is in Jessica Hopper's essay, which is bylined.

jaymc, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 21:09 (five years ago) link

Now I see, thanks--misread that because of the embedded link.

clemenza, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 21:30 (five years ago) link

I've gleaned from my FB wall that comments will go up tomorrow.

clemenza, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 23:29 (five years ago) link

A sometime ilxor posted something on FB that I found interesting, even if the fact of it isn't necessarily surprising cuz audiences be fickle:

"two albums ago, Tune-Yards won P&J, this album finished #99. seems like there is something interesting in that, though I am not sure what exactly. Perhaps it's more difficult for indie artists to sustain attention over multiple records, esp. now. On this list, Noname and Mitski (both great records) may have more to do with "I like Noname and Mitski" than these particular records, and if they make an equally good ones this year they might not be Top 10 material, the initial discovery counts for a lot."

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 7 February 2019 00:23 (five years ago) link

otoh Low just had what I assume is their best placement ever and that's like their 22nd album, so I maybe wouldn't read that much into it beyond the fact that ppl were generally just that that into this particular tune-yards record

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Thursday, 7 February 2019 01:01 (five years ago) link

My @villagevoice Pazz & Jop ballot. Thanks to @ismathers, James Christopher Monger, @RekkidOfTheDay, Brent Burton, @unlistenmusic, @knopps, @AdrienBegrand, Chuck Eddy, @DarkForcesSwing, @dominiqueleone & Kevin Stewart-Panko for validating a couple choices! https://t.co/qS9RWsj1Gs pic.twitter.com/FiK7yqOzJ3

— Brian O'Neill (@NYC__Native) February 7, 2019

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 7 February 2019 01:01 (five years ago) link


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