Rolling 2018 Thread on Race

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It’s the most dangerous kind of thinking in the world, that dehumanizing shit

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 3 January 2019 13:34 (five years ago) link

Sorry—i know that was all redundant. There is just something super bleak about racism being couched in this flippant, trendy twitter speak.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 3 January 2019 13:42 (five years ago) link

via a former ilxor

https://youtu.be/hcSAp-nBwR8

"What kind of language has then to be found that would not be a re-imprisonment of Black lives? Does it still belong to philosophy? Does it still belong to literature? For sure, this issue requires the opening of a yet unheard space. Afro-Pessimism might be its name. A name born in prison."

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 17 January 2019 10:42 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

this entire Jussie Smollett story is a bummer.

https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/it-looks-like-jussie-smolletts-case-is-headed-to-grand-1832700715

omar little, Monday, 18 February 2019 19:29 (five years ago) link

what an absurd story

k3vin k., Monday, 18 February 2019 19:34 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/05/us/trump-teacher-fort-worth-anti-immigration-trnd/index.html

I'm putting this here because there isn't a 2019 thread and because I can't get over the fact that this person was a teacher

Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Thursday, 6 June 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

It's just

Schroeder said the IV was removed by a professionally-trained FHN employee and that police followed the proper protocol when they realized Dukes was having a medical event.

...WHICH YOU CAUSED BY WITHHOLDING HIS MEDICATION THAT WAS LITERALLY FLOWING INTO HIS VEINS AT THE HOSPITAL'S DIRECTION.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

That is fantastic news

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

re: dude who was arrested for following doctor's orders, I really want the hospital to weigh in on this

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

half expected the cops to claim they mistook the IV for a weapon

Οὖτις, Friday, 28 June 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link

did they think the hospital gown was a disguise?????

j., Friday, 28 June 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

They thought they had someone they could brutalize who wouldn't fight back.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link

"Police urge people not to rush ‘to judgement against the police without all the information..."

Dukes was ultimately charged with disorderly conduct, after an investigation revealed he had no intention of stealing the IV stand, said Freeport police Lt. Andrew Schroeder.

A full investigation revealed that after coming all this way police were able to determine that the suspect who was by the way no angel was clearly guilty of something because otherwise we wouldn't be here now would we? Case closed!

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 28 June 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link

"disorderly conduct" is cop-speak for not being appropriately deferential to the thin blue line that separates us from the savages/not thanking them for hassling you

Οὖτις, Friday, 28 June 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

Police urge people not to rush ‘to judgement against the police without all the information’

Should I give the site the benefit of the doubt and assume the reason they used this quote to lead the article is out of irony?

viborg, Saturday, 29 June 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Horrible.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 10:54 (four years ago) link

jesus.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 11:20 (four years ago) link

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/12/entertainment/sarah-silverman-blackface-scli-intl/index.html

I think this is a ridiculous overreaction to a great sketch that was a top-to-bottom condemnation of racism and blackface

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 12 August 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

She did a huuuuuuge mea culpa for thatvepisode on her current show (I Love You America) last year, which was interesting

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 01:57 (four years ago) link

What's the word for when someone apologizes for something they shouldn't need to?

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link

I was sure Chris Cuomo would figure into this thread revive.

Simon H., Tuesday, 13 August 2019 02:24 (four years ago) link

Absolutely essential story: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/09/this-land-was-our-land/594742/

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 10:42 (four years ago) link

This cosmic balance sheet underpins the national conversation—ever more robust—about reparations for black Americans. In that conversation, given momentum in part by the publication of Ta-Nehisi Coates’s “The Case for Reparations” in this magazine in 2014, I hear echoes of Mississippi. I hear echoes of Hamer, the Scotts, Henry Woodard Sr., and others who petitioned the federal government to hold itself accountable for a history of extraction that has extended well beyond enslavement. But that conversation too easily becomes technical. How do we quantify discrimination? How do we define who was discriminated against? How do we repay those people according to what has been defined and quantified? The idea of reparations sometimes seems like a problem of economic rightsizing—something for the quants and wonks to work out.

Economics is, of course, a major consideration. According to the researchers Francis and Hamilton, “The dispossession of black agricultural land resulted in the loss of hundreds of billions of dollars of black wealth. We must emphasize this estimate is conservative … Depending on multiplier effects, rates of returns, and other factors, it could reach into the trillions.” The large wealth gap between white and black families today exists in part because of this historic loss.

But money does not define every dimension of land theft. Were it not for dispossession, Mississippi today might well be a majority-black state, with a radically different political destiny. Imagine the difference in our national politics if the center of gravity of black electoral strength had remained in the South after the Voting Rights Act was passed.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link

I was sure Chris Cuomo would figure into this thread revive.

I just watched that clip and loooooooooooooooool

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 11:29 (four years ago) link

straight outta that sopranos episode

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 August 2019 12:01 (four years ago) link

I've never heard of "I'll ruin your shit" before

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 12:03 (four years ago) link

I'm simultaneously like "what ridiculous nonsense" and "RUIN HIS SHIT, CHRIS; STRAIGHT UP MURDER HIM"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

How to solve racism in 'Murica forever:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/aug/15/white-professor-investigated-quoting-james-baldwin-use-of-n-word-laurie-sheck

pomenitul, Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link

Sheck told Inside Higher Education that a white student had objected to her language. According to Sheck, she questioned the student about her objection, who said she had been told by a previous professor that white people should never use the term. At the end of term, the student gave a presentation about racism at the New School.

comedy descending notes played on a muted trumpet

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

or trombone rather

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 15 August 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

That Justin Trudeau is out of control.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 06:49 (four years ago) link

Ugh indeed.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 08:34 (four years ago) link

they really should add on to that lonely slave heritage statue that was an auction block: "the Tayloe family traded slaves here, probably still would if they could" and just let the lawsuits roll

mh, Thursday, 26 September 2019 04:00 (four years ago) link

that case SLAPPs

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 26 September 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

otm

mh, Thursday, 26 September 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link

in all the right places

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 26 September 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link

you guys, this story is like a series of racist nesting dolls

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/us/carson-king-aaron-calvin-des-moines-register-trnd/index.html

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 27 September 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link

I have been actively trying to ignore it, as it gets dumber with every update.
This is the best coverage imo: https://deadspin.com/is-beer-money-sign-man-sorry-for-old-racist-tweets-1838457224

mh, Friday, 27 September 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

ha

I can't wait for the editor's old racist tweets to resurface

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 27 September 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link

It's a Gannett paper, so the salary is crap and the majority of the staff is probably below age 25. I give it.. a day or two at most

mh, Friday, 27 September 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

I can't spare the brain cells to investigate the entire timeline of this but at least one of the racist tweeters involved was 16 at the time? Do I understand that correctly?

Gotta say I'm glad there was no social med when I was 16 to catalog the things I firmly believed at the time bc the evangelical church told me to. o_____O

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 27 September 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

Not saying 16 yos shouldn't be held accountable, just saying I'm grateful to be old.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Friday, 27 September 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link

Yeah I mean, I think this largely played out correctly? Dude raised money, shit was brought up from his past, he gave what I thought was a legit apology, the corporate sponsor did the predictable corporate sponsor thing, the hospital is still getting money, everything is good and golden.

Where it gets funny is when the reporter's shit pops up

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 27 September 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link

I feel dumber every moment I hear about this story, and never need to hear coworkers talk about it again, but here we go

1. Guy holds up stupid sign with his venmo address asking for beer money for busch light at state's largest college football event
2. Fans send him ridiculous amount of money
3. He vows to send money to a children's hospital, beer company says they'll match it and send him a bunch of beer. Dumb ploy makes good for everyone, ok so far
4. Local paper reporter decides to check out guy before publishing another article, finds idiot racist teenage tweets
5. Paper reaches out to guy saying they found this, deciding what to do with it
6. Guy preemptively tells everyone he was an idiot teen, is no longer idiot teen
7. Paper writes round-up on all that has happened, tries to make clear they were preempted
7a. College football fans go nuts trying to figure out how to cancel their nonexistent newspaper subscriptions
8. Beer company still going to donate money, not going to give guy free beer
8a. Some fans with poor reading comprehension think beer company is not giving money to hospital, vow to never drink their beer again
9. Reporter who initially found racist tweets investigated by roving mob of online college football fans, racist tweets found
9a. Fans attempt to destroy reporter in addition to paper, salt earth

I have not worked from the office today and have heard nothing more

mh, Friday, 27 September 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link


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