largely agreed with those ratings, im wait-and-see re infinity war
bp turned into a hot mess tho, shouldve been a triumph
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:23 (five years ago) link
Usually when I've seen 1-2 movies in a series or franchise which I consider to be Not Good I tend to throw in the towel but hey if masochism is your kink who am I to judge really
― The Mandal Brah Set (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:21 (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
valid if there isnt twenty odd movies in the franchise which you know to vary wildly in quality, tone, scope, style and cast.
right?
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:24 (five years ago) link
tbc my problem w continuity and how incomprehensible it is was foregrounded in this movie by virtue of the fact that there are like literally two dozen protagonists. I get that the point was to tie all of the franchise together, but that is a *bad* point to make from a storytelling perspective - it just means there's too many fucking people and not enough screentime to make all of them consequential, or interesting, or worth including (beyond a wink-wink "spot the hero" cameo). It's just an extension of fanboy collector-mania ("collect them all!"), it runs counter to fundamental requirements of narrative.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:25 (five years ago) link
even with something like LOTR, which had a similarly huge cast, the filmmakers were right to follow Tolkien's lead and make the hobbits the fulcrum of p much every narrative strand. that cut it down to four people you really follow, with these other ppl dodging in and out. in IW it's all flattened out, *everybody* gets their 15-minutes or whatever and it's just one half-baked course of bullshit after another.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:27 (five years ago) link
Usually when I've seen 1-2 movies in a series or franchise which I consider to be Not Good I tend to throw in the towel
― The Mandal Brah Set (Old Lunch)
this is patently untrue based on your posting history
― sans lep (sic), Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:32 (five years ago) link
Spider Verse was 10x better than all the MCU shit I've seen tbh
― resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:35 (five years ago) link
maybe that's pushing it but man they should stick to that style or a variant of it
there's an argument to be made that Infinity War is a post-narrative movie of sorts
Everyone get a quip or two, their splash page moment, and you fill in the rest based on what you know about them from their own films. It's essentially a delivery vehicle for these big "moments" - I guess more akin to a theme park ride or something
I definitely don't disagree that it's overstuffed, but as an attempt to realise the giant comics crossover on screen I think it's pretty successful (certainly more succesful than 99% of giant comics crossovers)
― Number None, Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:36 (five years ago) link
lotr had only nine really central characters, four of whom are comic relief and one of whom gets proper killed pretty quickly
i dont even know where youd begin totting up how many central characters avengers movies have, let alone the dozen-movie strands of backplot and supporting. im not convinced theres a way to make it work tbh.
should have started killing em off starting at avengers 2
xp i think nn is right. i just think its bad.
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:38 (five years ago) link
fuckin psyched for when abrams picks up wheel of time tho but
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:39 (five years ago) link
whedon
fuckin whatever
LOTR is also a direct adaptation of an existing three-act narrative (and it still managed to be unwieldy as fuck)
― Number None, Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:43 (five years ago) link
well jackson yknow
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:44 (five years ago) link
not someone I would invoke as an exemplar of narrative discipline alright
― Number None, Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:45 (five years ago) link
what a huge waste of resources, money and effort
why do you hate job creators
― j., Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:47 (five years ago) link
Fwiw I think giant crossover events suck in comics form too, for all kinds of reasons, some of which apply for films as well.Xps
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 January 2019 00:54 (five years ago) link
not someone I would invoke as an exemplar of narrative discipline alrightexcept that he was, right up until the first LOTR
― sans lep (sic), Thursday, 3 January 2019 01:01 (five years ago) link
that was a different guy
― Number None, Thursday, 3 January 2019 01:03 (five years ago) link
shakey and dm otmfm, I have been marched through these wastelands of CGI sludge and thumbnail plots by my otherwise delightful daughters, and nothing can redeem most of them
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 3 January 2019 01:19 (five years ago) link
oh dang the emperor has no clothes
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 3 January 2019 01:57 (five years ago) link
I have been debating watching Infinity War on Netflix, and the problems shakey outlined are pretty much why I've been holding off. They've been building up to this film for so long, and I just don't care about this culmination or the millions of characters involved. The Avengers films have mostly been a let down for me.
OTOH, I finally got around to watching Black Panther, and I liked it well enough. Yeah, Killmonger was maybe too sympathetic, but wasn't that the point?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 3 January 2019 01:58 (five years ago) link
― sans lep (sic), Wednesday, January 2, 2019 6:32 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sic u made the classic mistake of assuming I possess a degree of taste and discernment which allows me to identify Not Good things as Not Good which is itself refuted by my posting history and I declare this a checkmate sir, good day to you
― The Mandal Brah Set (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 January 2019 04:33 (five years ago) link
except that he was, right up until the first LOTR
I'd say until King Kong - he cut a tonne of stuff from LOTR, then decided to make a three hour film where the best way to experience it is to walk in after an hour.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 3 January 2019 08:13 (five years ago) link
Ah Jesus he's directing the next Tintin film.
(I liked Infinity War pretty good for what it is, like if someone managed to make a cathedral out of cheese - you may as well enjoy it, there probably won't be another like it again)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 3 January 2019 08:15 (five years ago) link
OL - I was thinking eg
I slept through a solid 45 minute chunk of the first LOTR in the cinema and still walked out not feeling like I'd missed anything
even if you love the LOTRs, in whatever form, you can't argue that they are not more languorous than Bad Taste or Braindead or Forgotten Silver
― sans lep (sic), Thursday, 3 January 2019 08:35 (five years ago) link
I'm guessing you knew what you were missing, though?
They're definitely more languorous, but the plot for the first two of those mentioned films could be written on the back of a napkin - I'm not sure you could get LOTR into a shorter form without significant damage.
As I say that I'm sure that there's a super cut of 'just the Frodo and Sam, none of that other shite"
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 3 January 2019 10:05 (five years ago) link
ill kill fuckers
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 January 2019 10:11 (five years ago) link
the plot for the first two of those mentioned films could be written on the back of a napkinone might then point to said napkins as signal examples of narrative discipline, good to have you on board
― sans lep (sic), Thursday, 3 January 2019 10:46 (five years ago) link
there are only seven basic napkins
― Number None, Thursday, 3 January 2019 10:49 (five years ago) link
The rest are paste
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 January 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link
it's just one half-baked course of bullshit after another.
New board description plz
― slack thompson (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 January 2019 23:20 (five years ago) link
TBF sometimes I don't bother to bake my bullshit at all
― The Mandal Brah Set (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 January 2019 23:21 (five years ago) link
my posts are bullshit carpaccio
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 January 2019 23:36 (five years ago) link
I would've preferred Thanos' original motive, NIHILISM why because he's in love with DEATH, or Darkseid's anti-life equation, which at least have some semblance of internal consistency/logic.
― Tuomas, Saturday, 5 January 2019 13:42 (five years ago) link
I guess there was a new sorta teaser/trailer? Anyway, all's quiet on the Fox front, but I wouldn't be shocked if when they bring everyone back, they hint that some new folks (Fantastic Four?) might be back with them.
I also assume there will have to be some serious time travel involved in this one, since if half the population vanished civilization would pretty much be over.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 February 2019 16:00 (five years ago) link
New trailer makes it look like if The Leftovers was resolved with space punching
― bhad bundy (Simon H.), Monday, 4 February 2019 16:03 (five years ago) link
xp Today's homework: the wiki section on Pandemics.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 4 February 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link
TBF there are few things that can't be resolved with space punching.
― Why have more than 1,000 of my bucks disappearded? (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 February 2019 16:05 (five years ago) link
i haven't yet seen the leftovers and now, given simon's implication that it is not resolved by space punching, i don't think i ever will
― Calgary customer Elvis Cavalic (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 February 2019 16:06 (five years ago) link
When/if they do incorporate the FF, I look forward to whatever metacomment Cap makes about Johnny Storm (too bad Killmonger won't be around to do likewise).
― Why have more than 1,000 of my bucks disappearded? (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 February 2019 16:07 (five years ago) link
chris evans' cap will have been recast with michael chiklis by then, adding even more depth to the humour
― Calgary customer Elvis Cavalic (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 February 2019 16:09 (five years ago) link
It will be the deepest humor you ever encountered, so deep.
― Why have more than 1,000 of my bucks disappearded? (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 February 2019 16:10 (five years ago) link
i'm pretty sure killmonger will be return, if only in the very last shot of BP2
also, see the leftovers
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 4 February 2019 16:15 (five years ago) link
is it resolved by space punching? if no, see previous post
― Calgary customer Elvis Cavalic (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 February 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link
is an American supernatural mystery drama television series created by Damon Lindelof <sound of a tab closing>
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 4 February 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link
Mind you he brought the space punching in Kirk Vs Sherlock!
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 4 February 2019 16:17 (five years ago) link
Lol we've been over this elsewhere but it's excellent and basically the anti-Lost xp
― bhad bundy (Simon H.), Monday, 4 February 2019 16:18 (five years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, February 4, 2019
― bhad bundy (Simon H.), Monday, February 4
yeah i love teeing off on lindelof but this really did feel like the closest we're going to get to an apology
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 4 February 2019 17:10 (five years ago) link
Season 1 of The Leftovers is really good, and surprising, but Season 2 is fucking amazing.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 4 February 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link
Bucky is... the International Assassin
― mh, Monday, 4 February 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link