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https://scroll.in/article/902177/no-hindi-hindu-hindustan-implemented-fully-bjps-hindutva-renaming-will-wipe-out-a-lot-of-india

interesting piece on the BJP's current renaming drive. reminds me of efforts to purge english of latinate and greek words like percy grainger's 'blue eyed english'. quaint can turn to fascist p quick.

ogmor, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 10:11 (five years ago) link

Ugh, yeah, they also renamed Ross, Neil, and Havelock islands after Subhash Chander Bose (independence leader who conflicted with Gandhi and teamed up with WW2-era Germany and Japan to form the Free India Army): https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/01/india-strips-islands-british-colonial-names-renames-freedom/

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 16:14 (five years ago) link

This story is really fascinating to me: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/02/indian-women-form-620km-human-chain-in-support-of-lifting-of-temple-ban

A recent Supreme Court ruling overturned a proscription on pre-menopausal women entering the Sabarimala Ayyappa temple in Kerala. The priests and Hindu traditionalists have been (physically) fighting against the change, with BJP support, and have blocked many women from entering, with feminists and the Communists (who rule Kerala at the state level) fighting on the other side, including the formation of a 620 km human chain. Two women have entered and prayed now, which has been followed by protests and 'purification' of the temple by priests.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 16:19 (five years ago) link

Some quality Indian English in some of the quotes btw:

“Have the Communists desecrated Sabarimala shrine by facilitating entry of women of restricted age group into the temple? Devastating, if true.”

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 16:21 (five years ago) link

Nationwide strike; five states basically shut down. Is this getting any Western coverage outside extreme left rags?

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/india/trade-unions-strike-evokes-mixed-response-on-day-1-complete-bandh-in-kerala/amp_articleshow/67440537.cms

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:56 (five years ago) link

Not that I’ve seen - perhaps there is a perception that hartal/ bandh is so common in India it no longer qualifies as news.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:11 (five years ago) link

They still cover French protests but yeah. This does seem big; idk how it will play out. Violence is worrying but unsurprising.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:34 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

We will ensure implementation of NRC in the entire country. We will remove every single infiltrator from the country, except Buddha, Hindus and Sikhs: Shri @AmitShah #NaMoForNewIndia

— BJP (@BJP4India) April 11, 2019

https://thewire.in/rights/assam-nrc-may-campaign-marginalise-muslims

Rolling further towards open religious fascism.

ShariVari, Thursday, 11 April 2019 19:32 (five years ago) link

Are they really excluding anyone whose name does not appear on the Mar 1971 electoral rolls and is not a descendant of someone who does (or an Indian citizen who moved to Assam)? Sounds nuts.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 12 April 2019 14:30 (five years ago) link

Good news for Gautama at least.

What's a reliable source for Indian news? Not knowing the media landscape there, I tend to only read about it in the Guardian.

rob, Friday, 12 April 2019 14:34 (five years ago) link

Ha, yeah, "except for Buddha" jumped out for me too.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 12 April 2019 14:42 (five years ago) link

Awful news from Sri Lanka. Three hotel and three churches bombed, it looks like. Reporting at least 137 dead.

ShariVari, Sunday, 21 April 2019 07:09 (four years ago) link

Horrible. Forgive my ignorance, but have there been significant tensions between religious and/or ethnic communities lately?

pomenitul, Sunday, 21 April 2019 08:05 (four years ago) link

Not as far as I know, it seems comparatively out of the blue.

ShariVari, Sunday, 21 April 2019 08:34 (four years ago) link

How awful.

My quartier has a large Sri Lankan population, mostly Tamils. Many go to mass with us, and people were lamenting this Easter morning.

L'assie (Euler), Sunday, 21 April 2019 08:49 (four years ago) link

I read somewhere that the police were warned of an imminent church attack last week, but I'd imagine it wouldn't have been the first time. Lots of predictable Islamophobic shit coming from the usual suspects and I'm reading it might have been committed by Bodu Bala Sena - the Buddhist extremists.

calzino, Sunday, 21 April 2019 08:49 (four years ago) link

Another explosion.

pomenitul, Sunday, 21 April 2019 09:00 (four years ago) link

2 police officers confirmed dead in 7th blast.

calzino, Sunday, 21 April 2019 09:03 (four years ago) link

8th blast. Fucking hell.

pomenitul, Sunday, 21 April 2019 09:19 (four years ago) link

wtf.

calzino, Sunday, 21 April 2019 09:21 (four years ago) link

there is going to be a nationwide curfew that begins in 3 hrs and a shutdown of all social media and messaging services.

calzino, Sunday, 21 April 2019 09:38 (four years ago) link

The seventh and eighth bombs seem to have been set off as the attackers were being chased down by the police. They were not high-profile targets like the others.

ShariVari, Sunday, 21 April 2019 09:58 (four years ago) link

death toll up to 207 now.

calzino, Sunday, 21 April 2019 12:29 (four years ago) link

So awful

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 April 2019 12:44 (four years ago) link

Is there a reason why Bodu Bala Sena would want to kill tourists? Serious question.

Matt DC, Sunday, 21 April 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

it probably wasn't them. But lots of ppl seemed quite sure who was responsible literally 20 mins after the first few blasts occurred. The usual suspects though.

calzino, Sunday, 21 April 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

Jesus. All my Sri Lankan colleagues seem to be ok but someone from our US office visiting them was killed at the Cinnamon Hotel.

ShariVari, Monday, 22 April 2019 12:47 (four years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/29/indonesia-election-270-officials-die-as-overwork-takes-toll-in-huge

wtf! I thought there might have been an erroneous extra zero, but everyone else is reporting the same.

calzino, Monday, 29 April 2019 07:57 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

BJP set to win 300+ seats. All I'm hearing from Indians are lamentations: ppl decrying Rahul Gandhi; debate about whether the Congress party even has any future; lots of concern about possible electoral fraud; ppl pointing to the state of the media & coarsening of discourse. Amartya Sen has spoken of Modi's magic, his magical thinking and his way of tricking ppl with over-hyped policies like his healthcare bill and demonetization. Seems that the Indian right have been v successful in getting ppl to vote not on governance or the economy but on identity and security.

ogmor, Thursday, 23 May 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link

300/543 seats for one party is wild when there are, what, 30 parties in the Lok Sabha? Even wilder when the economy is actually doing badly. I will be surprised if the party of Nehru and the Gandhis never recovers. I don't really know why they stuck with Rahul after 2014, though. Good for the South for resisting the right wing tide, I guess, but the overwhelming global rightward shift continues to be worrying.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 23 May 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link

866k people in Bhopal voted for Sadhvi Pragya, currently on bail for a string of charges related to the 2008 Malegaon bombings.

ShariVari, Friday, 24 May 2019 05:58 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

This is quite good on the roots in the decay of Indian democracy, mapping it back to its beginnings:

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2019/07/18/indira-gandhi-long-undeclared-emergency/

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 20 July 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/15/india-millions-stateless-assam-red-tape-illegal-immigrants

this is some next level hostile environment volkisch nationalism from the BJP, trying to make millions of indians stateless

ogmor, Thursday, 15 August 2019 09:35 (four years ago) link

Yep, and as the article points out, Assam is only the first stage. The long-term objective is going to be 200m, not 4m.

ShariVari, Thursday, 15 August 2019 10:28 (four years ago) link

I'm wondering what the people who have thought about it actually expect to happen to all these people

ogmor, Thursday, 15 August 2019 10:37 (four years ago) link

i.e. do they expect to expel people en masse (and if so how many) or do they expect ppl to stay and treat them however they like?

ogmor, Thursday, 15 August 2019 10:39 (four years ago) link

'Ends > means' is likely the full extent of their pangs.

Or, as Ion Antonescu put it, 'I don't care if we go down in history as barbarians'.

pomenitul, Thursday, 15 August 2019 10:40 (four years ago) link

I strongly suspect the objective is a system where Muslims are largely politically disenfranchised but are not actively deported - just left to live as second-class residents. If you want to combine democracy and exclusionary ethno-nationalism, Israel would be the model to copy.

ShariVari, Thursday, 15 August 2019 10:45 (four years ago) link

Jesus. Fuck the BJP.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 August 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link

What happened in London today Is least of India’s concerns. Only country that should worry about this is UK. UK is fast becoming terror hub and they won’t be able to save themselves

— Sunanda Vashisht (@sunandavashisht) August 16, 2019

the total lack of any real disagreement that the UK is on the verge of being ruled by fundamentalist jihadis in the comments on threads like these is incredible, not really sure how you go about addressing it without getting immediately dismissed

ogmor, Friday, 16 August 2019 08:33 (four years ago) link

State propaganda has lost nothing of its effectiveness in the internet era…

See also: Russian 'documentaries' about the 'no-go zone' that is Paris.

pomenitul, Friday, 16 August 2019 08:40 (four years ago) link

Wait, is this a reference to the stabbing in front of the Home Office? Does that have anything to do with Islamic terrorism? I can't find any other major news stories about attacks in London.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 16 August 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link

Thread = insane tho

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 16 August 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link

Oh, is it about 10 people being arrested for the killing of a police officer in Berkshire? I don't see any news about a major terror attack on the BBC or Guardian pages. This is surreal.

We saw videos from the Indian high commission in Britain-istan. Their capital city London-istan is ruled by one Caliph Sadiq.

— Shailendra Mishra (@tweet2ssm) August 16, 2019

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 16 August 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

It's not about a specific terrorist event. The mindset is very similar to that of the 'Eurabia' boosters on the European far-right, the fiction that Europe is being taken over by Muslims resonates with the idea that India is losing its Hindutva due to a (very marginally) higher Muslim than Hindu birth rate.

Population control is Modi's big new idea and there was a proposal raised by a BJP politician (which Modi hasn't endorsed aiui) that Muslim family size should be legally restricted.

ShariVari, Friday, 16 August 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link

So "what happened in London today" = "a generally increasing Muslim population in the UK"? That's bizarre. Lol @ Indian Hindus being concerned about the white British population getting outnumbered, though.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 16 August 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

What happened in London was just a protest outside the Indian Embassy

ShariVari, Friday, 16 August 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

Oh, that's ridiculous.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 16 August 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

"Make Tea Not War" is a quality slogan.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 16 August 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

Looks like Modi has blinked. Says there was no incursion into Indian territory. China has subsequently reiterated that the valley is within their LAC.

Good to see it de-escalate.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Saturday, 20 June 2020 09:12 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

Indian government proceeding with criminalizing intermarriage: https://t.co/3hdeBSMXpL

— Murtaza M. Hussain (@MazMHussain) December 5, 2020

Genuinely interested to see how far he can push stuff like this and still have Western leaders pal around with him.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Saturday, 5 December 2020 11:58 (three years ago) link

In a country where love was meant to be a celebration, Narendra Modi has criminalised interfaith love because it is a regime that has survived and sustained on hate. My take on legitimising the dangerous and fictitious Love Jihad theory in @PostOpinionshttps://t.co/agSPBTm7vF

— Rana Ayyub (@RanaAyyub) November 29, 2020

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Saturday, 5 December 2020 11:59 (three years ago) link

Wtf? No way this is constitutional?

actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 December 2020 13:30 (three years ago) link

Likely not, but it will have to go to court first

rob, Saturday, 5 December 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...
one month passes...

why aren’t we talking about this?! #FarmersProtest https://t.co/obmIlXhK9S

— Rihanna (@rihanna) February 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 15:07 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Ugh, that seems shockingly brazen, even for the BJP.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link

In other shockingly brazen, even for the BJP news...

Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram have been put on notice in India and may cease to exist for failing to comply with Centre's new I-T Act. New social media rules to come into effect on May 26. @maryashakil shares more details with @ridhimb pic.twitter.com/wLvsSbbOqH

— News18 (@CNNnews18) May 25, 2021

The short version seems to be that they forged some documents suggesting Congress was planning to run a campaign that would ‘tarnish the image of the country’ over COVID, Twitter labelled it as ‘manipulated media’ when senior politicians posted it, the police raided Twitter’s offices yesterday and now they, and Facebook, have 24 hours to comply with new laws or face closure.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 07:19 (two years ago) link

Wow.

I got a FB msg from a cousin in India today so I'm guessing they either complied or the rules aren't being enforced?

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...
three weeks pass...

Finally read this; it's as depressing as I feared.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 5 July 2021 17:45 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Sometimes writing editorials is not required. Just the placement of news is enough pic.twitter.com/9tyP9JkMym

— Ghazala Wahab (@ghazalawahab) June 28, 2022

rob, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 12:57 (one year ago) link

o_O

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link

more on Zubair and Alt News: https://restofworld.org/2021/fact-checking-modis-india/

rob, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link

Protesters occupy President's residence, burn down PM's and force both to resign in Sri Lanka: https://www.nytimes.com/article/sri-lanka-president-protests.html

While I don't question that there are good reasons to want a revolution in Sri Lanka, it's v unclear to me what will come next and nothing I've seen suggests that the protesters have a clear idea themselves. Also, one thing I've not seen addressed anywhere yet is whether Tamils or Muslims are represented among the protesters.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 11 July 2022 13:05 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Indian government accused of attack on democracy as 141 MPs suspended:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/19/indian-government-accused-attack-democracy-mps-suspended-modi-bjp

rob, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 18:33 (four months ago) link

Really grim

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 09:37 (four months ago) link

Modi has done so many fascist things over the years, it’s so expected

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 09:55 (four months ago) link


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