This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2018

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But I also think Spike the director rescues Spike (et al) the writer, too.

love craptually (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 December 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link

yes

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 December 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link

Barack Obama's favorite films of 2018:

Annihilation
Black Panther
BlacKkKlansman
Blindspotting
Burning
The Death of Stalin
Eighth Grade
If Beale Street Could Talk
Leave No Trace
Minding the Gap
The Rider
Roma
Shoplifters
Support the Girls
Won’t You Be My Neighbor

Will update with Trump's favorites when he posts them.

love craptually (Eric H.), Friday, 28 December 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link

Someone ask him about the ending of Burning.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 December 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link

He left off A Star Is Born. Good.

love craptually (Eric H.), Friday, 28 December 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

Boots Riley must be thankful he left off STBY

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 28 December 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link

Would be funny if he had included Sorry to Bother You.

Chris L, Friday, 28 December 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link

(Sorry xpost)

Chris L, Friday, 28 December 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

not a big First Reformed guy

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 December 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link

Also left off, First Man. Guess he isn't interested in box-office disappointments either.

love craptually (Eric H.), Friday, 28 December 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link

(I mean, given his politics, Rev Toller wd've prepared to blow up the POTUS too)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 December 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link

I watched a dvdscr of Green Book last night, omg that has be some of the most rank garbage I've seen in years! The cast of Italian-American stereotypes are like some nightmare pizza ad that never ends. Would be tempted to think it was some kind of bizarre comedy fail, but it's obv the director was actually aiming for schmaltz.

calzino, Sunday, 30 December 2018 10:41 (five years ago) link

I love Sean Baker, his films are surprisingly big in Denmark, and he has three films that are at least co-produced by Danish producers on his top ten :)

Frederik B, Sunday, 30 December 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link

Where is 'A Fantastic Woman' on everyone's lists? Does everyone consider it 2017 or is it just not as good as I thought...

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 31 December 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link

It's considered 2017.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 31 December 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link

A Fabulous Woman should be in a field set on fire.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 December 2018 19:31 (five years ago) link

Yeah, it made its appearances in the 2017 "detrius" thread, and won an Oscar this March. I was one of those low-information film-watchers for whom that got it more on my radar; my partner and I saw it a short time after and were really impressed.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Monday, 31 December 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link

Really? I thought it was trans-baiting twaddle.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 December 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link

I'm sooooo tired of lugubrious queer cinema, especially when 2017 offered so many good counter examples: BPM, The Ornithologist, Staying Vertical...

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 December 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

Well, I'm certain I haven't seen nearly as many films working the same thematic territory as you have, so I can't really evaluate it in comparison. I'm also a cis het dude with no Chilean cultural connection, so my barometer for all kinds of things here may be out of whack. I found the primary "grieving, but cut out by the family, and no one at work/in the bureaucracy/in your life knows or takes the grief seriously" story to be very vivid and relatable. The other thing that stuck with me was the extended assault sequence, which was very hard to watch... its brutality felt real and earned, and the horrifying possibility of that kind of event was important to understanding the way the character approached various other situations, why she says/does x instead of y.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Monday, 31 December 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

As I said at the time, A Fantastic Woman has no interest in Marina except brutalizing her. We can expect a humiliation every few minutes – Lelio should have called A Dehumanized Woman. I don't want pity from these stories. I appreciate your take, though, as ever.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 December 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link

haha wrong html tags

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 December 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link

I can understand responding to it that way! I feel like I connected with it mostly on a level of empathy more than pity, FWIW. There was definitely a strong "god everyone's so MEAN to her!" thread that would come into my mind but she had plenty of scenes about her being a person, whose personhood included having been a victim. The music side of things does a lot of the work here. I maybe could have done without the business with the spa locker key, which was a lot of walking to get to where it does. YMMV!

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Monday, 31 December 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link

After reading through Walter Chaw's year-end wrap up, I'm looking for second opinions on: Thunder Road, Damsel, Madeline's Madeline, Blaze, Skate Kitchen and The Rider. Anyone?

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 1 January 2019 15:54 (five years ago) link

Dr Casino, I wish u a happy filmwatching year

The Rider was OK for me, nothing more.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 January 2019 16:02 (five years ago) link

I agree with two Morbs posts in a row. Didn't realize a year had passed so quickly.

I'd kiss ya but I just washed my hair.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 January 2019 16:03 (five years ago) link

I wrote this piece on Madeline's Madeline if google translate is your friend... https://www.skuelyst.dk/arkiv/2018/12/10/madelines-madeline-kritik

Frederik B, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link

Short version: It's fucking great and an attempt to do something completely new artistically and ethically.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link

I thought Blaze was really lousy, either the lead actor’s fault or the boring story (I know it’s true)

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 17:11 (five years ago) link

I liked MM a lot, gave me things to think about. Was only disappointed that it wasn't as trippy and formally inventive as the trailer suggested.

Skate Kitchen was like, a nice interesting little movie, with really vibrant and youthful vibes coming off all its real-life skater cast. I saw it with an intensely awkward, offputting Q&A and so came away feeling meh about it, but without that I'd probably think of it fondly.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 1 January 2019 17:54 (five years ago) link

Has there ever been a point to a Q&A other than to annoy both the audience and the talent?

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 1 January 2019 18:06 (five years ago) link

*long-winded ramblings that have little or nothing to do with the film just watched* "uh I guess that wasn't so much of a question..."

Number None, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 18:52 (five years ago) link

in this case the problem was the As rather than the Qs

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 1 January 2019 20:38 (five years ago) link

Ban all Q&A's

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 22:10 (five years ago) link

the last thing I want to hear after I watch a movie is the director explaining it. and that's the best case scenario - usually they just turn into Curb Your Enthusiasm episodes.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 22:11 (five years ago) link

Q and A’s tend to just happen without any warning after seeing an independent film at the arclight in LA. Seen lots of cringey moments. There was one w Dakota Fanning after seeing Kelly Reinhardt’s Night Moves where the yahoo journalist interviewer leading it asked mostly about War of the Worlds which made me think she didn’t understand the movie and was deathly afraid of discussing it.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 22:24 (five years ago) link

good lord that is my nightmare

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 22:44 (five years ago) link

leave no trace was so good

there are no good podcasts (||||||||), Tuesday, 1 January 2019 23:54 (five years ago) link

Most of the regional crix have now weighed in, and if you thought they would tilt the best actor race back to Bradley Cooper or Christian Bale, nope.

https://variety.com/2019/film/awards/roma-alfonso-cuaron-ethan-hawke-regina-king-dominate-critics-awards-circuit-1203095798/

love craptually (Eric H.), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 18:09 (five years ago) link

After reading through Walter Chaw's year-end wrap up, I'm looking for second opinions on: Thunder Road, Damsel, Madeline's Madeline, Blaze, Skate Kitchen and The Rider. Anyone?

― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Tuesday, January 1, 2019 10:54 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thunder Road is worth seeing. I wasn't 100% crazy about it immediately after watching it but it's stuck with me. The lead (who also directed iirc) is just such a live wire that he completely makes the picture worthwhile on his own.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 18:14 (five years ago) link

Here, have 'em...

FULL LIST OF WINNERS FOR THE 22ND ONLINE FILM CRITICS SOCIETY AWARDS:

BEST PICTURE
Roma

BEST ANIMATED FEATURE
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

BEST DIRECTOR
Alfonso Cuarón - Roma

BEST LEAD ACTOR
Ethan Hawke - First Reformed

BEST LEAD ACTRESS
Toni Collette - Hereditary

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Michael B. Jordan - Black Panther

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Regina King - If Beale Street Could Talk

BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Paul Schrader - First Reformed

BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
Barry Jenkins - If Beale Street Could Talk

BEST EDITING
Eddie Hamilton - Mission: Impossible - Fallout

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
Alfonso Cuarón - Roma

BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
Nicholas Britell - If Beale Street Could Talk

BEST DEBUT FEATURE
Ari Aster - Hereditary

BEST FILM NOT IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE
Roma

BEST DOCUMENTARY
Won't You Be My Neighbor?

TECHNICAL ACHIEVEMENT AWARDS
Annihilation - Best Visual Effects
Black Panther - Best Costume Design
Mission: Impossible - Fallout - Best Stunt Coordination
A Quiet Place - Best Sound Design
A Star Is Born - Best Original Songs

ONLINE FILM CRITICS SOCIETY'S BEST OF THE YEAR
1. Roma
2. BlacKkKlansman
3. If Beale Street Could Talk
4. First Reformed
5. The Favourite
6. You Were Never Really Here
7. Annihilation
8. Eighth Grade
9. Hereditary
10. A Star Is Born
11. Suspiria

LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARDS
Roger Deakins
Spike Lee
Rita Moreno
Robert Redford
Agnès Varda

SPECIAL ACHIEVEMENT AWARDS

Director Ryan Coogler, for Black Panther's distinctive critical and box office appeal

The city of Oakland, CA, for hosting two of 2018's most socially and artistically compelling films about race relations, "Sorry to Bother You" and "Blindspotting."

love craptually (Eric H.), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 19:13 (five years ago) link

Rita Moreno? did she do a Marvel?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 19:15 (five years ago) link

1,352 acting credits, and aside from West Side Story, all in shows I've no interest in ever seeing again.

Sanpaku, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 20:01 (five years ago) link

Slate's year-ending Movie Club started without my knowing it...

https://slate.com/culture/2019/01/thanos-avatar-2018-movies.html

love craptually (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 January 2019 13:45 (five years ago) link

Rita Moreno? did she do a Marvel?

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, January 2, 2019 2:15 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/emmys/la-et-st-rita-moreno-one-day-at-a-time-emmys-20180402-story.html

bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Thursday, 3 January 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link

God bless the AARP Movies For Grown-Ups Awards ...

Best Picture/Best Movie for Grownups
A Star Is Born
BlacKkKlansman
Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Green Book
Roma

Best Actress
Sandra Bullock (Bird Box)
Glenn Close (The Wife)
Viola Davis (Widows)
Nicole Kidman (Destroyer)
Julia Roberts (Ben Is Back)

Best Actor
Willem Dafoe (At Eternity’s Gate)
Hugh Jackman (The Front Runner)
Viggo Mortensen (Green Book)
Robert Redford (The Old Man & the Gun)
John C. Reilly (Stan & Ollie)

Best Supporting Actress
Angela Bassett (Black Panther)
Blythe Danner (What They Had)
Judi Dench (All Is True)
Nicole Kidman (Boy Erased)
Michelle Yeoh (Crazy Rich Asians)

Best Supporting Actor
Robert Duvall (Widows)
Sam Elliott (A Star Is Born)
Robert Forster (What They Had)
Richard E. Grant (Can You Ever Forgive Me?)
Ian McKellen (All Is True)

Best Director
Kenneth Branagh (All Is True)
Alfonso Cuarón (Roma)
Peter Farrelly (Green Book)
Mimi Leder (On the Basis of Sex)
Spike Lee (BlacKkKlansman)

Best Screenwriter
Peter Farrelly, Brian Hayes Currie & Nick Vallelonga (Green Book)
Deborah Davis, Tony McNamara (The Favourite)
Peter Hedges (Ben Is Back)
Nicole Holofcener, Jeff Whitty (Can You Ever Forgive Me?)
Paul Schrader (First Reformed)

Best Ensemble
Black Panther
Bohemian Rhapsody
Crazy Rich Asians
The Front Runner
Widows

Best Grownup Love Story
All Is True
On the Basis of Sex
Private Life
The Old Man & the Gun
What They Had

Best Intergenerational Film
A Quiet Place
Beautiful Boy
Ben Is Back
Crazy Rich Asians
Mary Poppins Returns

Best Time Capsule
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
First Man
If Beale Street Could Talk
Roma

Best Documentary
Amazing Grace
Bathtubs Over Broadway
RBG
The Rest I Make Up
Won’t You Be My Neighbor?

Best Foreign Film
Cold War (Poland, France, U.K.)
Never Look Away (Germany)
Roma (Mexico)
Shoplifters (Japan)
The Guilty (Denmark)

love craptually (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 January 2019 19:15 (five years ago) link

Yay The Guilty :)

Frederik B, Thursday, 3 January 2019 20:28 (five years ago) link

PGA Nods ...

Black Panther
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
Crazy Rich Asians
The Favourite
Green Book
A Quiet Place
Roma
A Star is Born
Vice

+ their animated feature picks

The Grinch
Incredibles 2
Isle of Dogs
Ralph Breaks the Internet
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

love craptually (Eric H.), Friday, 4 January 2019 19:04 (five years ago) link


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