Muse

I almost want to claim it, just so I can possess a piece of ilx lore.

Almost.

Send me yr address thru ilxmail and it's yours Austin.

(I will have to fp you, ofcourse, for wanting Muse's latest, but you can take it on the chin iirc <3)

Haha, I wouldn't do that. I'm on the west coast of the US. It would probably cost you as much to mail it as it would for me to just buy a copy of my own.

Which certainly isn't going to happen.

Uhmm.. You don't seem to understand how much I want to get rid of this awful thing.

Is it the Super Deluxe edition?

I would love to hear this rip off of synthwave just so I can hate them even more.

If you seriously want to get rid of it enough to send it to Canada, 'I want the cd. They put on a good show last year.

I underrated Simulation Theory. cringe all you like, this shit bangs.

it's at least ridiculous in a pretty fun way which is more than they'd managed for a long long time and reminded me of why they were so formative for me lol

more ridiculous Muse = better Muse

New Song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d55ELY17CFM

Metel Muse

pretty dire

one of their worst singles ever lol

tbf muse have for a long time (always) been an experiment in bad taste that's occasionally brooked fun results. this is a catastrophic-to-the-point-of-near-enjoyment verse married to a very Muse chorus. it doesn't really work. the guitar breakdowns are terrible. there's very little way to really think about this productively. i probably won't listen to it again

it's such a clunky disjointed mess and even the individual parts don't work at all let alone all smashed together, the only thing of theirs i can think of that's this much of a mess is "unsustainable", that dubstep disaster track

there are plenty of muse songs where the hook sucks or the guitar sucks or whatever but this is a low they rarely manage to reach

yeah I was thinking they'd brought back the 2nd Law wubs for this, but made them somehow worse

it's weird coz at their biting-Rachmaninov peak the songs really did hold together, even the ambitious stuff like Citizen Erased or Butterflies & Hurricanes (both of which are up their with their best imo)

feels like Bellamy has kind of unlearned songwriting

i like it

The wheat-to-chaff ratio with Muse is very high. There are four Muse songs that I can sort-of listen to: Plug In Baby (the song that launched a million YouTube guitar videos), Hysteria (because the guitar solo is actually a proper solo rather than the same arpeggiated sequence again like most of their songs), Supermassive Black Hole (didn't trad Muse fans hate this when it came out because it's relatively unlike their previous songs? anyway that might be why I like it), and Survival (which manages the kind of pompous ridiculousness this new song tries to hit but can't).

given this four listens and now i'm out, i tried. liked the heaviness of it on first listen but really this just has a bunch of their ideas recycled.

I tried listening to the new album but lost my hearing by the second song.

I sampled a few songs out of morbid curiosity.... just terrible.

new one is dreadful and leans into all their worst tendencies which is a shame because the last album was actually pretty decent

"they're great live"

I haven't unreservedly liked anything by them since Black Holes and Revelations and I've thought everything since Drones has been downright terrible.

I haven't unreservedly liked any of their albums, which, from a peak of Origin Of Symmetry, have declined at first slowly, then precipitously, with as ufo says only Simulation Theory as very slight respite from just about the worst music possible

"they're great live"

They were, at the one show I saw!

To be fair, I haven't listened to any of their older albums in probably 7-8 years. The newer stuff has been so awful that I don't really want to grapple with how those ones I used to like might hold up or not.

origin of symmetry & absolution are decent but a bit inconsistent, bh&r doubles down on that inconsistency, the next three are mostly dreadful, and simulation theory is actually remarkably solid but doesn't hit the highs of their best material

basically this yeah. OOS and absolution are in the main unrecognisably great - like, clearly the same band but with wildly improved writing and sonics - compared to most of what they've come out with lately

oh and showbiz is just a bizarre debut album, i have no idea what they were listening to because a lot of it is deeply alien and sounds like nothing much else at all, though it's largely not very good either. i have no idea how they got signed

the song 'sunburn' alone probably. yeah it is a weird, bad album

"cave" is pretty great too but those are about the only worthwhile tracks on it

To be fair, I haven't listened to any of their older albums in probably 7-8 years. The newer stuff has been so awful that I don't really want to grapple with how those ones I used to like might hold up or not.

This is exactly how I feel. Albums 2-4 had their moments, I even kinda liked The Resistance, but everything I've heard since (just a song or two here and there) has been so unbelievably bad I'm terrified to revisit the old stuff.

people always say they're great live, and really lean on that they're meant to put on a spectacular show and be amazing live, but if all they do is play songs by Muse surely it can't be good

I can definitely imagine their music going over really well live. I saw Coldplay in 2003 — they were great. Similarly, Rammstein put on an incredible show in 2010 and I never listen to their studio albums, even though I own most of them. Iron Maiden are also a hell of a lot more fun to see than to listen to at home.

i saw them in 2010 during my teen muse fandom & it was pretty good but i don't think i'd be that moved if i saw the same concert now. stage set-up was the most ridiculous they ever had, with video screen pillars that they performed on for a bunch of the set

I saw Coldplay in 2005, my grandparents bought tickets for the entire family after hearing me talk about being a big fan of Goldfrapp and confusing the two because they sound similar (!) I don't really remember much about the show per se but I do remember seeing a man take a line of cocaine during "Fix You" so someone had a wild night at least

if all they do is play songs by Muse

Fake news. They actually play the Third Eye Blind catalogue.

One of the weirdest things about Muse: they were teenagers who were into Mega City Four and Senseless Things in about 1994

i still want to know what they were listening to when they made their first album because a lot of that is deeply strange rock music that doesn't really sound like anything else i've ever heard. it isn't very good for the most part, but where are all those weird latin-sounding chord progressions coming from, for instance

Beyond the basic tenants of classical piano, Metallica and what not (also maybe stuff John Leckie was showing them) I'm not sure what all the touchstones were, but I do know Matt's travels around Europe as a teenager and hearing lots of flamenco apparently fed into it - especially Uno.