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There's apparently one or more horndog patron at my library who, in the face of comic book nudity, will 1) use a colored pencil to flesh out the woman (and this guy apparently knows how to shade, too!) and 2) rip an entire page out that contains nudity.

Lazer Guided Mellow Leee (Leee), Thursday, 3 June 2004 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link

!!!

The coloring-the-woman image is striking. I'm picturing him sticking his tongue out as he does it, you know, like to the corner of his mouth, the way comic strip characters do when they're concentrating -- and beads of sweat on his forehead as he hunches over the drawing table, squinting through his Coke bottles.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 3 June 2004 23:06 (nineteen years ago) link

That's weird. And awful.
I paid another visit to the library tonight. The power was out at my apt, so whatever.
Planetary, I loved. But they didn't have any more. Top Ten was also really good and not really what I was expecting. Alan Moore seems to have lightened up a bit. There's a pretty low tragi-factor there and LIKABLE characters.

Anyway, today I got Justice League: A New Beginning, some animated Batman thing and something else that's totally slipped my mind. Damn.
Anyway, I followed that JL series from issue #3 to not quite #50. So I had never read the first two issues in the collection, so that was extremely cool for me. But I'm most impressed at how well those issues hold up. When I read the FKNATJL mini last year, I kept thinking it was so 80s, esp. with Kevin Maguire's slightly Schnabel-esque style. BUt the original stuff (aside from a few of the women's hair-do's, I still can't believe they ever thought taking Black Canary out of fishnets was a good idea) still reads good, it's still funny now that I'm a grown up and I'm pretty sure that a lot of my current sense of humour finds its secret origin in those comics.

Huk-L, Friday, 4 June 2004 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Huck, you should try & make the "One punch!" dialogue into a modern-day "Who's On First?" bit.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 June 2004 12:38 (nineteen years ago) link

the other thing I got was Selina's Big Score, which seems to serve no other purpose but to laugh at me for not buying The New Frontier because it's $10 an issue in Canada and will surely be collected soon for less than $60. Right?
But Darwyn Cook is great. Is he (she?) Canadian, by any chance?

Huk-El (Horace Mann), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link

He. Don't think so. I anxiously await my eBay'd copies of TNF. Huck, you might wanna try there if you're feeling peckish. Also, DC (ha!) wrote / drew another Batty one-shot (_Batman: Ego_), & if you haven't read the first collection of the new Catwoman series, you might wanna (if only to ogle @ DC's kewl artistry).

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:31 (nineteen years ago) link

In the intro to the pin-up Gallery he sings it "Darwyn Cooke, Toronto."

Hmm, maybe I'll do that, check on Ebay. I picked up the first two TNF, and they're wonderful, but I'm really trying to curb my spending, esp. on comics, lately.

Huk-El (Horace Mann), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Aren't we all. I just dropped $50ish on the first three New Frontiers, the 1st 3 of the Millar / JG Jones Wanted mini, a Jack Cole biography, and the first 3 issues of _The Pulse_. And that was after I cleaned out my box at the local comix store after months of neglect (to the tune of a number I shouldn't repeat).

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I hear ya!
I remember when like $20/month was all I needed to get pretty much every comic I wanted.
Mind you, I've trimmed down lately. I'm only regularly buying Green Arrow, Flash and Superman/Batman (I'm not sure why though).

Huk-El (Horace Mann), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, but I just started getting Gotham Central. But S/B has got to go.

Huk-El (Horace Mann), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Michael Turner is a plot killa. Less washboard abs, more out of proportion MALE torsos.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link

It just seems like they're needlessly stretching out these storylines for tpb purposes. Crips, I remember when you could save the world, protect your secret identity and build a giant robot in an 8-page back-up story and still have room for a moral.

Huk-El (Horace Mann), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

It's like Loeb et. al. are making up for all the stuff that happened in the first 6 issues by having next to nothing happen in the next 6.

LOEB: "So there's this new Supergirl, and, like, Superman's all on her because she's from Krypton SUPPOSEDLY, and Batman's all jealous like 'Hell no she's a freak!' so he contacts Wonder Woman to whisk her away to Amazonia or whatever, but then Darkseid wants some of that too, yeah? So he raids the place, kills that blue-helmet chick from Crisis, and takes her away."

ED: "OK, so what happens in the next issue?"

LOEB: "Next? Dude, that's the plot for the first THREE issues!"

Why I made Jeph Loeb sound like a Yale Repetory reject auditioning for the O.C., I dunno.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 June 2004 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Have we even seen Lois Lane in this title?

Huk-El (Horace Mann), Friday, 4 June 2004 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Leee in "not rating anyone not named Rucka" shocakshs, I've found most things Darwyn Cooke related disappointing. I have the Selina's Big Score tpb, but only because of a bangin Mignola pinup in the back. Ego was all talk, and as far as cartoony stylee goes, I far prefer Shane Glines (who hasn't actually pencilled anything afaik).

Lazer Guided Mellow Leee (Leee), Friday, 4 June 2004 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Lois is too busy being an amoral spineless shrew in Chuck Austen's Action Comics to bother starring in the latest Bruckenheimerian S/B production.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 June 2004 20:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Leee, The New Frontier is a big step up for Darwyn Cooke. Really beautiful, clever, witty writing.....makes most of DC's superhero stuff look like the mediocrity it is.
But I'm waiting for the trade. Or the Hardcover. Sorry, Darwyn.

David Nolan (David N.), Friday, 4 June 2004 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Y'know who else is cartoony and great? Phil Hester (and don't forget his loyal inker, Ande Parks). His Green Arrow stuff is terrific fun, it gives the title a nice breeziness to it that allows the writing (when there's good writing, and sometimes there is, most often there is) to almost sneak up on you.

Huk-L, Monday, 7 June 2004 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Hee hee, It was barely a year ago when I was still all dewey tailed and bushy eyed. Now I'm a hardened cynic. ROCK ON.

Anyway.

Went to the library last night and scored some Greg Rucka NOVELS. Turns out there's this huge section behind the Graphic Novel shelf that has books without pictures.

I also got:
Batman: As the Crow Flies - Wow. Dustin Nguyen is awesome. Now I have a much better idea of how much he brings to the Mahnke awesomeness (a lot).
Avengers: Supreme Power - I haven't had much luck getting into the Avengers, but what the fuck. It's free.
Scene of the Crime - Brubaker & Lark! Together again for the first time! Or something.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I picked up 15 graphic novels at the library yesterday, and unashamedly talked to the checkout guy about catching up on the Lost Years (post '94 non-collecting) and how great the library was for this. If he'd been an Onion indie record store gal, it'd have been more awkward, but as it was, fun letting the geek flag fly!

Borrowed Perez's "Gods & Monsters" Wonder Woman book, the latest Y trade (with THE EXPLANATION), Rucka's Superman "Unconventional Warfare" (which looked great, skimming it - seemed like they've done a good job modernizing the characters), a Way of the Rat trade (also looks great), the two Green Lantern & Green Arrow trades (the pointing, the pointing!), and a pile of others. All freeeeeeeeeeeee.

scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Friday, 19 August 2005 19:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Errr

The Nguyen that inks Doug Mahnke is the one whose first name is "Tom", I believe.

Is "As the crow flies" good? It's like 20 bucks down here in argentina, and I wasn't planning to get it, but I've been interested in the few stuff I've seen from Dustin Nguyen, and I happen to have that money, which would sure be much more useful if spent in other, more important and truly needed stuff, but now I'm starting to feel this irrepressible urge to waste it in some generic Batman comic that will make me feel very guilty after I have bought it (i get this feeling, like, once or twice a year)

iodine (iodine), Friday, 19 August 2005 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Errr

The Nguyen that inks Doug Mahnke is the one whose first name is "Tom", I believe.

You are correct, sir, and I am a giant asshole.
It's okay. The art is great, the story is so-so. I'm not sure where I stand on Winnick. I've read some really great stuff by him (the "Red Hood" business) and a lot of mediocre stuff (Green Arrow).

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 19 August 2005 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Green Arrow is such a crap!!!! And it's even worse now that Phil Hester has left.

Btw, there's nothing like the guilt after you have bought an extremely expensive comic.

iodine (iodine), Friday, 19 August 2005 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Does the Red Hood arc come after the Scarecrow arc?

iodine (iodine), Friday, 19 August 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Not directly - I think that "War Games" hoohah is the meat of that sandwich.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 19 August 2005 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

The librarian looked at me like I was a moron when I brought an armload of "graphic novels" to the check-out desk, particularly when I said "They're for my kid."

Ya know, the last time that I went to the library and got a stack of comic book books out, the librarian was all chatty with me about her experiences with "graphic novels" and how much she loved The Sandman! I never would have expected it from her, since she looked about 55. She was more impressed with my taste in reading material than I was, since I was mostly just checking out a bunch of kiddie comics stuff like Fushigi Yuugi and Astro Boy and shit! "Graphic novels"? WTF?!?

Chris F. (servoret), Saturday, 20 August 2005 06:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Just grabbed Archive Editions of Shazam, Flash, Green Lantern, and Batman from my local branch. They had some others, but I figured that'd do me for now.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Saturday, 20 August 2005 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Today at the downtown branch of my library I grabbed (from the new additions shelf ALONE): Spirit Archives vol. 14 and 15 (i.e., the start of the really good post-war stuff), The Comics Journal Special Edition vol. 5 2005 (i.e., the artsy manga issue), Drawn & Quarterly Showcase, and the Adrian Tomine Scrapbook. Not bad...

Chris F. (servoret), Sunday, 21 August 2005 05:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Well so I finally found where the comics stash was at the library. And I grabbed The Spirit Vol. 13 because I thought that was more or less where I was suggested I should start. Except this apparently wasn't the thread where I was suggested that. I guess I should check the gmail thread. Hm.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 27 August 2005 08:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not sure I'm loving this Spirit.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 5 September 2005 05:01 (eighteen years ago) link

will eisner is pretty much the only major comics "great" (at least pre-1970) i'm not that crazy about. the spirit is good but i can't imagine ever LOVING it, or even liking it all that much except in a distant "respectful" sort of way. there's something kind of slick and cold about eisner's artwork that i don't like. the "ten minutes" story is pretty great, but that's about it for me.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 5 September 2005 05:47 (eighteen years ago) link

gary groth sums it up pretty well for me: http://www.tcj.com/267/e_groth.html

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 5 September 2005 05:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Gary Groth astonishingly up himself shocker!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 5 September 2005 06:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll read the Grothiness in a bit. But my main problem is that the pacing seems way off in these stories. It's either "plot point! plot point! plot piont!" with no connections between them, or it's "slap! stick! slap! stick!" where he doesn't give enough space for the funny to be funny.

And I mean I'm trying to look past the racism.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 5 September 2005 21:22 (eighteen years ago) link

you know, i'm going to retract my eisner criticism above. i don't think i've read enough of his work to make a fair judgment. which of his later books are good?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 06:38 (eighteen years ago) link

a boy and his dog corben and wosname - ellison. fuck they have a bad selection. i must recommend some. i wonder who does the buying...some rep pushed no nowt?

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 08:36 (eighteen years ago) link

which of his later books are good?

A Contract With God, To The Heart Of The Storm, and that's about it really. Luckily for you, both are being published in one volume along with Dropsie Avenue (I think) as the launch title under his new 'real publisher' deal.

kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:05 (eighteen years ago) link

nb do not buy The Dreamer, it is the worst thing ever

Gaz I thought of something else you should get from Kino the other day! but then I forgot it again. stay tuned!

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link

i am tuned kit. we need to meet there one lunchtime. you point i slobber.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 07:47 (eighteen years ago) link

OK! I just thought of two!

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 08:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked The Dreamer!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Dropsie Avenue is the one I read. It was fine.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah I haven't read Dropsie, I assume it's not awful since they're bundling it with the other two.

The Dreamer reads like fucking Molesworth* wrote it! "and then JACQUES KIRBEE came to work for me he is pretty good but much shorter than me he thinks he's so tough but look at my muscles *hem hem* the comics in WALLY RENSIE's head are better than what all these other legends what I employ draw o I AM GRATE chiz chiz"


*ie not Willans

kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 8 September 2005 04:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Got a load of stuff from the public ibrary today!

Goon: Heaps of Ruination
Finder: Talisman
Hellboy: Weird Tales 2
100 Bullets: Six Feet Under the Gun
Scott Pilgrim Vols. 1 & 2
Mary Jane: Circle of Friends

Leeeeeeeee (Leee), Saturday, 17 September 2005 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link

i got, ah, *blushes*, green arrow: quiver

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 18 September 2005 05:20 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Oh public library system, how could I have ignored you for so long?

Over the weekend I got Birth of a Nation, Rose (the Bone prequel), the Goon vol. 1 & 2, and 100 Bullets vol. 3. Maddie got Cerebus: High Society, Epileptic, and some other stuff.

I'm extremely happy to have finally read BoaN and Goon, and 100 Bullets and Cerebus are perfect examples of "I would read it but don't want to spend twenty bucks to do it".

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Is Doom Patrol worth reading? I just checked it out.
One of my favorite library finds is a weird little Oni press thing called one + one, about ghosts.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Totally worth reading (assuming you're talking about the Grant Morrison DP).

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Jimmh Corrigan Smartetst kid
Boondoks because you don't readthe newspaper I know
Finder king o cats
Essent Xmen 2
Amazing Spiderman 1
Age o Bronze 1

Also French nouvelle vague!
Alphaville & Le Samourai

And that new autechre. :(

c(''c) (Leee), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 01:02 (eighteen years ago) link

French nouvelle vague

w00t! I've been watching some public library Godard lately myself. The last public library comic I got out was probably Jimmy Corrigan, but that was a while ago. I wish my PL had Finder.

Chris F. (servoret), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 09:06 (eighteen years ago) link


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