Is Music Today Better or Worse Than Ever ?

"Is today's music better or worse than Ezra?"

That's what I thought the thread title said at first...

I have a tendency to like first albums a lot too. But it usually has to do with personal taste more than objective quality or craft. A band's "best" record, and my "favorite" is quite often different.

NO SUCH THING AS OBJECTIVITY.

I generally like the first record I hear by a band/artist most, whether that be their first or their tenth.

I have heard 55 albums (and counting) with a 2007 release date that would have been good enough to make my year-end Top Twenty ten (or even twenty) years ago. That said, I agree with electricsound: "there is more good music but less amazing music".

Is that because, as 'experienced' or 'seasoned' or whatever listeners, we are less prone to being 'amazed' by music now than we were when we were younger?

^^this is probably more accurate

it's like computer games

I'm pretty certain I'm never going to listen to Andorra by Caribou with anywhere near the freakout frequency that I listened to The Stone Roses' debut album a dozen years ago, but I'm also pretty sure that, right now, if I were to play them back-to-back, I might prefer Andorra.

x-post; I never tire of the amazement when I score a great Pro Evo goal.

I never tire of the amazement when I score a great Pro Evo goal.

well i haven't seen you play but i'm sure you're not that bad at it.

xpost re getting older: Partly that, partly the continued absence of a damned good generational paradigm shift, but I'm of a generation that would say that, wouldn't I...

Is that because, as 'experienced' or 'seasoned' or whatever listeners, we are less prone to being 'amazed' by music now than we were when we were younger?

i'm sure it's that way for some, but i don't think that's necessarily always the case. although i do think for experienced listeners you do get to a point where you have heard "everything" in one sense or another.

Obviously most bands don't improve beyond a point. But songwriting does develop/evolve too...

My impression is rather the opposite. A band's playing usually gets better and better (the vocals may go the other way after a certain age is reached though). The songs, however, tend to be better early on and then gradually the good song ideas that used to exist in that band's songwriters heads have already been used.

"My impression is rather the opposite. A band's playing usually gets better and better (the vocals may go the other way after a certain age is reached though). The songs, however, tend to be better early on and then gradually the good song ideas that used to exist in that band's songwriters heads have already been used.

-- Geir Hongro"

haha, its funny that after people have compared me to you that we actually agree on something!

hey clown, where did you come from?

The songs, however, tend to be better early on and then gradually the good song ideas that used to exist in that band's songwriters heads have already been used.

This is the rationale for drilling for song ideas in the Alaskan Wetlands.

Exxon Valdez = RHCP

Braer = Dave Matthews Band

Sea Empress = Coldplay

sadly, worse

sadly

tragically

heart-rendingly

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40762000/jpg/_40762884_beslancrowd_ap203b.jpg

music fans, earlier today

music is sadder than it used to be

http://www.guyana.org/features/Funeral-6.jpg

can't believe music today is worse than it used to be, just when so many young forward-thinking fans were hoping to get into it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_music_considered_the_worst

Hey, Mr DJ put a record on
I wanna dance with my baby

Do you like to Boogie woogie, do you like to Boogie woogie,
do you like to Boogie woogie, do you like my dancing?

Hey Mr. DJ put a record on I wanna dance with my baby
And when the music starts
I never wanna stop, it's gonna drive me crazy

Music, music
Music makes the people come together
Music mix the bourgeoisie and the rebel

Don't think of yesterday and I don't look at the clock
I like to boogie woogie
It's like ridin' on the wind and it never goes away
But she's everything I'm in got to have it everyday

Music makes the people come together
Music mix the bourgeoisie and the rebel

Hey Mr. DJ

Do you like to
Boogie woogie, do you like to
Boogie woogie, do you like to
Boogie woogie, do you like my dancing

Hey Mr. DJ put a record on I wanna dance with my baby
And when the music starts
I never wanna stop, it's gonna drive me crazy

Music makes the people come together
Music mix the bourgeoisie and the rebel

Music makes the people come together
Music mix the bourgeoisie and the rebel

I wouldn't listen and I couldn't see
And all I have left now are words you said to me,
Sing your song sweet music man,
'cos I won't be there to hold your hand like I used to,
I'm thro' with you.

You're a hell of a singer and a powerful man
But you surround yourself
With people who demand so little of you.

You touched my soul with your beautiful song,
You even had me singing along right with you,
You said I need.

Then you changed the words and added harmony
And you sang the song you had written for me
To someone new.

But nobody sings a love song quite like you do
And nobody else could make me sing along
And nobody else could make me feel
That things are right when I know they're wrong
(that things are right when you're wrong with the song)
Nobody sings a love song quite like you.

Sing your song sweet music man
You travel the world with a six piece band
That does for you what you ask 'em to.

And you try to stay young
But the songs you've sung to so many people
They've all begun to come back on you.

So sing your song sweet music man,
You're making your living doing one night stands,
That prove to you they don't need you.

You're still a hell of a singer but a broken man,
But you're keep on looking for one last fan
To sing 'em to.

But nobody sings...
So sing your song sweet music man
I believe in you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_posters_considered_the_worst

Everything you do it comes back to you.
Whatever it may be.
If it isn’t one thing rest assured that something.
Will come back and pay you for your deed
A shortcut’s a self defeating means, if you cannot do it clean.
You’ll never reach your reward.
And when the day is done, what you receive is the sum.
Of what you took out, from what you put in.

Times deep in a dream seem a veiled realm.
Shadows what I think and feel is real.
Times in our tribe feel the tribe when we thrive.
We have no fear of death and no fear of life.

I can’t forget you and our version of paradise.
I can’t forget you and our version of paradise.

Everything you do it comes back to you, whatever it may be.
What you did as a devil or did as an angel.
The favor returns itself somehow.
If you take my money I’ll buy you a drink and you’ll see.
That no one rides for free.
Afraid of what I said then your mind is stricken.
I’m wearing my heart sleeveless and I’m always up for kickin’.
This is my favorite city pity everywhere the enemy.

From the beginning serious history
Nothing’s ever given to no one. Rides for free.
From the beginning radiant energy’s
Music what I need to keep my sanity.

I say we fear no evolution stand up musical revolution.
Follow me now when I say we can never stop in we never give.
Cuz this is how we breathe and live.
Some of them whine and some of them bitch.
They cannot do it we never switch.
We do it for ourselves and we do it for you.
If you don’t like it well I hope you do.

I’ve got to be honest.
I’ve got to be honest.

http://dahtrump.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/6037578578_8411c25a9f_z.jpg

A man looking at some pictures in a famous art gallery commented to a friend: "I don't think much of these pictures." "Excuse me, Sir," said an attendant who overheard him, "the pictures are not on trial."

Down in a hole there are so many ways
to find yourself some light
it’s always the miracles
keep waiting all you like
ain’t got no time to waste
I know the end is near
and if I run away
I’ll always end up here.

Walking away
from the things I adore
telling the truth
for once I’m sure
it’s always a sign
when you feel yourself bleed
I’m walking away
from all I need

I can’t escape the tragedy
that always brings me down
if I could eliminate
those things that make me frown
take all the baggage
that follows me around
and just disintegrate
burn it to the ground

I’m walking away!

Any thoughts on trends since this thread was started? Has the collapse of recorded music revenue affected the output?

the notion of music today has become muddier

yesterday: worse
today: better
who knows what tomorrow will bring

Would still trade 60s pop for pop of any era following it.

DIE OF BRAINROT YOU FESTERING WANKER

― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, November 21, 2007 4:01 AM (7 years ago) `

noodle vague on typically wonderful form 1y ago

If it isn't better tomorrow I am going back into my hard bop '58 wormhole or some other such type place, forgive me Saer I am an old bastard.

The same!

Whatever music you listen to today is today's music, grasshopper.

i'd say it's a lot better

less revivalism, less nostalgic pandering. technology is constantly improving... and pretty soon someone will use these newly afforded tools to make something distinctive of it's era

there's always a way to push forward

I thought this revive was going to be about this http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b063h4lm

Lauren Laverne hosts an all-star discussion from London's iconic 100 Club, asking if rock 'n' roll is in crisis and what it now means in the 21st century. Can rock 'n' roll still be as dangerous and subversive as the original or has it become more about lifestyle and decoration? Joining Lauren are Savages' lead singer Jehnny Beth, Dr John Cooper Clarke and former Animal Eric Burdon. Featuring original contributions from Noel Gallagher, Dave Grohl, Sleaford Mods and Alabama Shakes. Music from Mercury-winning Young Fathers and Matthew E White.

Kenickie disbanded on 15 October 1998 after a London Astoria gig, where Lauren closed the night by saying "We were Kenickie ... a bunch of fuckwits".

the day the music died

lol

If it isn't better tomorrow I am going back into my hard bop '58 wormhole or some other such type place, forgive me Saer I am an old bastard.

― sorry, no results found for "Sekal Has To Die" (xelab),

Emotional wellbeing is increasingly under threat as noise pollution increases with each year, reducing serenity and increasing anxiety. Also now there are more words written and spoken, reaching almost everywhere in a two pronged attack upon reverie

pipecock you are a quartermaster of the highest order.

― Just got offed, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 01:15 (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hahaha how did you not manage to permaban me