Neil Young On The Beach Reissued On CD

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I picked up "Hawks and Doves" and "On the Beach." "On the Beach" is devestating and beautiful all the way through. However, I'm at a total loss as to why no one else seems to appreciate the greatness of "Lost in Space", (track 3 of H/D). That song is absolutely classic and by far the best thing on that record.

theodore fogelsanger, Friday, 9 January 2004 22:38 (twenty years ago) link

on the beach has that one awful blues, vampire blues or whatever

and the lyrics on the last two tracks still bug me even though i love the arrangements

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 10 January 2004 18:02 (twenty years ago) link

Zuma is definetely his best work.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 10 January 2004 18:13 (twenty years ago) link

i love vampire blues! and the lyrics on the last 2 tracks are close to being my favorite neil young lyrics ever! horses for courses i guess

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Saturday, 10 January 2004 18:16 (twenty years ago) link

even the "we can get together for some scenes" stuff? ugh.

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 10 January 2004 18:17 (twenty years ago) link

i think the lyrics on both motion pictures and ambulance blues (including that line) are classic, in a stoned, tired, lettin-it-all-go sort of way. it works for me anyway.

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Saturday, 10 January 2004 18:21 (twenty years ago) link

ok

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 10 January 2004 18:25 (twenty years ago) link

I know what you mean amateurist but i like the lyrics there because they're very daring, sort of unstuctured and/or unsuitable for song, directly personally relevant to him and virtually unfiltered for us.
It's as if he's having a conversation with us, albeit a teary one where he's breaking down and tugging our sleeves. I also love all the folk stuff, playing 'heartfelt' music in his younger days.
No Ambulance Blues is just great, and so's its 'heavenly length'.

pete s, Saturday, 10 January 2004 18:29 (twenty years ago) link

yeah i mean i sometimes like the lyrics for the same reason i dislike them--they are sort of undaunted by a concern for being poetic or even sounding particularly nice, and they let it all hang out as far as sense and good taste is concerned. but certain lines i find really jarring and unsuited to the musical backing. it depends on my mood i guess.

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 10 January 2004 18:36 (twenty years ago) link

Exactly, they nag at you for being so imperfect, sloppy, and uncaring of your presence - that's why the album's 'disturbing' rep is completely justified. This is what makes it so good, IMO, it crystallizes his state(s) of mind, if he'd tightened up and pulled a 'Tired Eyes' out of the bag i wouldn't enjoy it half as much.
I much prefer it to Tonight's the Night.

pete s, Saturday, 10 January 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago) link

see they don't really "disturb" me though they just annoy me

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 12 January 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
re.ac.tor does kinda suck.

this thread does not have enough discussion of RAGGED GLORY, for my liking. What a great album THAT is!

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Saturday, 28 January 2006 04:48 (eighteen years ago) link

ian, bro, ... "SHOTS" !

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 28 January 2006 05:38 (eighteen years ago) link

i will listen to it again.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Saturday, 28 January 2006 05:42 (eighteen years ago) link

everyone OTM on the lyrics of Ocean Beach. i see we're all feeling the Neil back and forth, up and down. more and more the music feels the same; depends on my mood, but even when it doesn't sound right, there's something that draws you to it and opens your mouth - and when its good for you.... anyway, i've been mesmerized lately by the eerie guitar tone he achieves on Zuma's Pardon My Heart.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Saturday, 28 January 2006 08:30 (eighteen years ago) link

"Ambulance Blues" and "See the Sky (About to Rain)" sound even more desolate at 2 am than Joy Division.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 28 January 2006 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

title track really gets me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKgj1FNToWY

Hall of Fam (Spottie), Monday, 9 July 2018 23:54 (five years ago) link

I need a crowd of people... but I cant face them day to day

Hall of Fam (Spottie), Monday, 9 July 2018 23:59 (five years ago) link

incredible album. the first time i heard this i had found a copy on a cassette tape in a thrift store. it had On the Beach on one side and Re-Ac-Tor on the other. i ended up going on tour soon after that and it ended up being the perfect road tunes. just sheer beauty from top to bottom. "Ambulance Blues" is so heartbreaking. An ambulance can only go so fast holy fuck that's a spooky line.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 00:26 (five years ago) link

title track is all-time

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 00:31 (five years ago) link

An ambulance can only go so fast

neil has an endless number of lyrics that are sort of banal but also somehow incredibly moving and deep and full of meaning to me

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link

oh yeah absolutely. lots of examples on this album, but the best is obviously from tired eyes: "he tried to do his best, but he could not"

supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 14:13 (five years ago) link

boz scaggs cover is surprisingly good

supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 14:15 (five years ago) link

i love the arrangements on here, all the different instrumental textures that perfectly match the songs. you have your country rock throughout but you also have your stripped down back porch banjo of "For the Turnstiles", the watery tremelo Wurlitzer of "See the Sky About to Rain", that cosmic fiddle in the distance of that final track. Neil invoking some potent atmospheres.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link

Neil Young – vocals; guitar on "Walk On", "Revolution Blues", "Vampire Blues", "On the Beach", "Motion Pictures" and "Ambulance Blues"; harmonica on "See the Sky About to Rain", "Motion Pictures" and "Ambulance Blues"; Wurlitzer electric piano on "See the Sky About to Rain"; banjo guitar on "For the Turnstiles"; electric tambourine on "Ambulance Blues"

lol electric tambourine?

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link

http://tvmiller.com/images/etambourine_3.jpg

willem, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link

funny what a big deal this coming out on CD was back in the day! tracking down the LP in the early 90s was a formative experience — a friend of my brother's had played it for us, and it seemed unbelievable that something so great could be so (generally) unavailable. definitely made me realize there was a whole world of music that you weren't going to find at the mall.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

i found a cd bootleg of this backed with american stars and bars on my 20th birthday, the same day i bought a copy of shakey which has just come out

that was a fuckin’ great day

i listened to that bootleg so much that even now that i have access to pristine remastered on the beach i still expect to hear the bootleg’s needledrop and occasional vinyl pop and crackle during certain parts

dang, that's a nice combo. Stars N Bars rules too.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link

An ambulance can only go so fast

neil has an endless number of lyrics that are sort of banal but also somehow incredibly moving and deep and full of meaning to me

― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:11 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Want to say that line in particular, after listening to “Ambulance Blues” for all these years, hit me like a ton of bricks about a year ago.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

funny what a big deal this coming out on CD was back in the day! tracking down the LP in the early 90s was a formative experience — a friend of my brother's had played it for us, and it seemed unbelievable that something so great could be so (generally) unavailable. definitely made me realize there was a whole world of music that you weren't going to find at the mall.

― tylerw, Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:38 AM (forty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god i remember this phenomenal little record store near where i grew up, i stocked up on so many classic LPs in perfect shape. everything was like $4.00, including my copies of all the key Neil Young LPs. I went there and in one fell swoop picked up the ditch trilogy, After the Gold Rush, Harvest, and Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere for maybe $25 plus tax. On the Beach was the real eye-opener. I think its unavailability meant it was overlooked or even dismissed by the mainstream critical community at the time, as was Time Fades Away. I remember so many pieces about TTN but nothing about those. But I remember spinning OTB and thinking what a great LP it was, like a sardonic sun-soaked "Rockford Files with a slightly bummer ending" type work it was, vs the noirish complete bleakness of TTN.

omar little, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link

oh yeah absolutely. lots of examples on this album, but the best is obviously from tired eyes: "he tried to do his best, but he could not"

― supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Tuesday, July 10, 2018 9:13 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is a great example too

I usually find it pretty bullshitty when musicians say "oh i don't know where my lyrics/music come from, i'm just channeling it from somewhere" but with Neil sometimes I really do believe he doesn't know exactly what his songs are about

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link

I think always explains why Neil can pull such mind-blowing boners when writing lyrics too (like say 90% of the last ten yrs) cuz yeah I think he really is tapping into his subconscious and I can imagine when yr writing you might think "man that line is really banal & clunky but, hey it worked in the 70s!"

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link

I don't trust a lyricist who never produces eye-wateringly bad lyrics every now and again tbh.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link

For real, you gotta swing for the fences

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link

I read an interview around '90-'91 or so where he was asked about the lyrics to "I Am A Child."

"'What is the color when black is burned'? I don't even know what that means. It's...like a dark grey, I guess?"

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link

lol

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link

I first heard On the Beach my first time in Los Angeles in August 1999. I was out there for my friends’ wedding and after the rehearsal dinner I got extremely drunk then later stoned back in the hotel room where a friend had a bootleg copy on a burned CD. Maybe it was the circumstances, but it had a haunting, profound effect on me, at least the first side did. The second side didn’t have the same impact.

A few years later I found my own bootleg CD with TFA on it as well. It was only after years of listening to it did I realize the second half is the heart of the album.

Andrew "Hit Dice" Clay (PBKR), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link

oh yeah absolutely. lots of examples on this album, but the best is obviously from tired eyes

Which ... is not on this album

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

lol Tarfumes I too distinctly remember that, p sure it was in a Spin profile (by Jimmy McDonough, iirc?) He asked him about a bunch of different lyrics.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 19:55 (five years ago) link

Yep, I think that's the one. iirc, in that same interview, Neil said of his artistic comeback, "It's a good thing I didn't get hit by a bus right after Old Ways came out."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link

Which ... is not on this album
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 19:38 (yesterday) Permalink

lots of examples on this album, but the best [is not on this album but] is obviously from tired eyes

supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 00:06 (five years ago) link

can I praise David Crosby for his electric rhythm work on "Revolution Blues"?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 00:08 (five years ago) link

Entirely by accident I ended up listening to this album earlier this evening. Yes to praising David Crosby's rhy gtr on "Revolution Blues"! But even more praise for the bass playing, listening to which I found myself thinking, "Is that Rick Danko?" And sure enough, it's Rick Danko!

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 00:22 (five years ago) link

ilx is a #croz positive space

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 01:30 (five years ago) link

crozitivity

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 01:51 (five years ago) link

can I praise David Crosby for his electric rhythm work on "Revolution Blues"?


that’s the croz?! wow, that’s wild - he should have rocked out more, that’s some impressively prowling, snarling guitar


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