― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Thursday, 30 September 2004 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link
so the question is do you want to play that game? it gets very dirty very fast. strangely enough i know of a couple who's marriage is in trouble because of one them working for moveon and is getting scarier and scarier the more entrenched in politics she gets. i like to think of tracer's scenario of people just out there doing it on a personal/community level - no matter who's in power (though of course their work gets easier or harder depending on who is). maybe i'm just more focused on being a good person and doing what you can well instead of doing ugly things that might be for the 'greater good'.
you just can't call defeat because your man doesn't make office. there are a million other things that make up your day.
― lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Thursday, 30 September 2004 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 30 September 2004 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link
This is one of the central conundrums of effective left/liberal politics in America right now. If the underlying principles of left/liberalism include humanism and broad distribution of power, then betraying those principles in order to get into office to support those principles is a morally dubious proposition. I've got this recurring metaphor of a football game, where one team wants to win but within the framework of the game -- with rules, referees, etc. -- and the other team comes out with machine guns and shoots everyone on the field and pays off the refs. If part of the argument we're having is about whether we need the rules and referees, then you can only make the case for it by playing by those rules. But how do you do that when you're playing Karl Rove and Dick Cheney, who think rules are for pussies and chumps?
I don't know. I don't think the Democrats have figured it out yet either.
― spittle (spittle), Thursday, 30 September 2004 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 30 September 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2015/07/on-the-politics-of-identity.html
― j., Tuesday, 14 July 2015 01:03 (eight years ago) link
http://jezebel.com/resilience-is-futile-how-well-meaning-nonprofits-perpe-1716461384?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
― j., Tuesday, 14 July 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link
https://facingrealitycollective.wordpress.com/towards-a-revolutionary-left/
― j., Sunday, 26 July 2015 02:47 (eight years ago) link
On November 30, 1999, activists shut down the World Trade Organization meetings in Seattle. The protests were a thrilling moment during bleak times for the socialist left. Now, years of resistance are finally paying off. https://t.co/38i77jMzf4 @DougHenwood— Jacobin (@jacobinmag) November 30, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 1 December 2019 02:07 (four years ago) link
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-interview/judith-butler-wants-us-to-reshape-our-rage
― j., Sunday, 9 February 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link