andy warhol as filmmaker

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so they showed a 46-min excerpt of Empire (the 8-hour fixed shot of the Empire State Building) on Saturday, and as I anticipated, the audience interaction was the drama. A group of 4 or 5 came in late, fairly noisily -- I heard plastic bracelets clattering throughout -- and there was giggling and whispered WTFs after 10 minutes.

MAN #1: Will you be quiet?

#2: No.

#3: Yes, do.

#4: For you youngsters, you were supposed to talk during this movie, and have a cigarette.

The noisy party left after another 10 minutes, with a woman huffing "Eight hours of that!"

Dr Morbius, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link

This is a handy "star" guide:

http://www.warholstars.org/index.html

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

"The noisy party left after another 10 minutes, with a woman huffing "Eight hours of that!"

-- Dr Morbius, Monday, October 29, 2007 7:15 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link"

what a SQUARE huh.

am kind of amazed that the audience was WTFing this. it'd be like going to 'hear' 3'33 and then going -- OMG WHERE THE TUNE!?!?!?!

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, walking out not as puzzling as WALKING IN!

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link

The Chelsea Girls: still fastest 3-1/2 hrs in cinema

Dr Morbius, Monday, 5 November 2007 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I lost interest about half way through.

Virginia Plain, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

“A Walk Into the Sea: Danny Williams and the Warhol Factory,” a documentary about a filmmaker who had been one of Warhol’s intimates,

I watched this tonight. I really liked the excerpts of Danny's films!

Congeniaal HOe is de Collective Animal (PappaWheelie V), Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:37 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Very sad news from the Warhol as filmmaker front. Callie Angell, curator of The Andy Warhol Film Project, has died.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/11/arts/artsspecial/11angell.html?hpw

Quite eerie for me because just yesterday I was reading about her in Roy Grundmann's amazing book on Blow Job.

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

just saw her speak at the 0rph4ns symposium a month ago! by all accounts this was very sudden. RIP.

joe scarborough and peoples (donna rouge), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ $74.50 for a 280-page analysis of a 35-minute film of a guy making sex faces

Ralph Nadir (crüt), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

am nailing it in first post basically

Greatest contributor: (history mayne), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost

Oddly enough, that's not the only book on the film. There's a much cheaper one by the great, albeit a bit hardline, avant-garde filmmaker/polemicist Peter Gidal.

Also, the anthology Pop Out: Queer Warhol has an absolutely superb essay by Jonathan Flatley called “Warhol Gives Good Face: Publicity and the Politics of Prosopopoeia.” Don't let "Prosopopoeia" scare you off (or let your mind drift towards Mexican desserts) - it's an easy to digest essay explaining some of Warhol's preoccupations, with a good chunk on Blow Job.

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.ubu.com/film/rice_chumlum.html

Ron Rice ws discussed up there hence the link - this is...Parajanov before Parajanov? Just w/a bunch of bohemian NY-ers -- except not nearly as well made, but the overload of images with the music has a trance to it.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 October 2011 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

if chelsea girls is one of warhol's best movies, i'd hate to see his worst

The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Sunday, 6 November 2011 08:32 (twelve years ago) link

Saw this old documentary on Warhol's films:

http://www.ubu.com/film/warhol_cinema.html

Lots of great clips -- got v excited about seeing Chelsea Girls. Hoberman alluded to rolling news and you could easily add reality TV to this now.

Anyway it looked boring and great too. A must see.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 November 2011 11:37 (twelve years ago) link

I love seeing docs about Warhol because of interviews w/old factory members. They seem like aliens from a far away galaxy.

Best left at a distance i think.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 November 2011 11:38 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

i saw a 2-screen projection of chelsea girls a few months ago, it was cool

am0n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

I saw some of the National Gallery's Warhol retrospective this past fall. If you ask me the Warhol estate is doing the world a favor by limiting these films' distribution. (Only Ondine made Chelsea Girls tolerable.)

Seraphim? I don't even know him! (j.lu), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

I'm leading a panel w/Tom Kalin and Claire K. Henry of the Whitney Museum on Nov. 20 discussing Lupe, Hedy, and Harlot. Anyone seen'em?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 November 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

rather, point me to a couple of good articles I can cite

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 November 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

Stephen Koch's Stargazer is still the locus classicus on Warhol's films

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 15 November 2014 22:50 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Saw Kitchen last week, Poor Little Rich Girl tonight, five or six more in the coming weeks. Still mulling over Kitchen. "I suspect that a hundred years from now people will look at Kitchen and say, 'Yes, that is the way it was in the late Fifties, early Sixties in America. That's why they had the war in Vietnam. That's why the rivers were getting polluted. That's why there was typological glut. That's why the horror came down. That's why the plague was on its way.' Kitchen shows that better than any other work of that time." Norman Mailer in Edie...Wish I could get him to expand on that. (He does, a bit--the full quote is longer.) I sort of get it--there's a real feeling of violence in a couple of Edie Sedgwick's outbursts--but for me the experience of actually watching it didn't match the intrigue of that quote. Occasional lines made me laugh, and I will remember Sedgwick's getup (I liked how, when Warhol wanders into the film, you realize why two or three of them are wearing striped shirts). I think I drifted off for about 10 minutes.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GDut44PSbmg/hqdefault.jpg

clemenza, Saturday, 28 November 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link

I enjoyed Tarzan and Jane Regained...Sort Of for short stretches. Kitchen and Poor Little Rich Girl are so heavily invested in Edie Sedgwick, I think you've got to find her as endlessly fascinating as Warhol does to get much out of them. She mostly just wore me down. Taylor Mead, who came from the stage, is simply better in front of the camera--his vamping and clowning around is very funny at times. (The whole film seems to be predicated on the question "How do you make a Tarzan film?" "If your lead actor wears a loincloth and remembers to beat his chest every minute or two, it's a Tarzan film.") Throw in some deadpan voice-over ("This is the bathtub scene...it's endless"), the Orlons and Little Eva and lots of other girl-group stuff (felt much more like a Kenneth Anger film than the other two, even though Poor Little Rich Girl also has a pop-heavy soundtrack), Dennis Hopper and Irving Blum (recognized him from the Ric Burns documentary; also Claes Oldenburg and the director James Bridges), and some nudity, and it’s halfway lively. It walks up to the edge of a couple of really dark corners--bestiality (for laughs) and pedophilia--but glancingly. Eighty minutes; 40 would have been enough. Dionne Warwick overtop color footage of Naomi Levine swimming was the highlight for me. Beautiful, sort of.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 December 2015 22:43 (eight years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Lonesome Cowboys is the usual mixture of tedium and funny, sometimes deadpan (and sometimes not) camp, the best of it from Taylor Mead, who I'm pretty sure is stoned throughout. Loved "Magical Mystery Tour."

clemenza, Saturday, 2 January 2016 02:09 (eight years ago) link

I must have slept through a quarter of Nude Restaurant's 100 minutes, including much of the beginning and end (which included some of the Taylor Mead/Julian Burroughs scene, which seems to be the film's most famous). I had been contemplating skipping it altogether earlier--knew I was tired, and reading up a little beforehand I thought "Do I really want to see this?"

Anyway, actually enjoyed a lot of the rest. I'm now convinced that Mead is a borderline comic genius. He's even funny when he's not saying anything (e.g., the whole time he's listening to Viva), and he's great at mocking the very existence of these films, like when he finishes his song and says "And now I'd like to order something from the menu," extra-large quotation marks around "menu." I also found Viva much more entertaining that Sedgwick in the two films I posted about earlier. Loved the monologue about her psychiatrist, and her derision of mass media is better than Dylan and the Time reporter: "We're beginning to sound like Newsweek. 'Hippiedom. Trouble in Hippiedom.'" I hope that somewhere, sometime, somebody named their band Trouble in Hippiedom.

clemenza, Sunday, 3 January 2016 02:21 (eight years ago) link

Pretty detailed piece here:

http://moviemorlocks.com/2011/10/02/letting-it-all-hang-out-at-the-nude-restaurant/

clemenza, Sunday, 3 January 2016 02:26 (eight years ago) link

For 40 years, the only films I'd seen Viva in were Midnight Cowboy and Cisco Pike. I've seen her in three Warhols now--saw Bike Boy tonight--and I think she's fantastic. And again, she and Ingrid Superstar and Brigid Polk seem so much more interesting and funny to me than Sedgwick.

(IMDB lists Valerie Solanas as "Woman on street" in Bike Boy. I either missed her--I don't even remember seeing the street--or, my guess, she was excised from the film.)

clemenza, Friday, 8 January 2016 05:12 (eight years ago) link

I don't think that worked, anyway, don't forget her appearance in "Play It Again, Sam"! And on "Escalator Over the Hill".

Anyway, it's not a three, it's a yogh. (Tom D.), Friday, 8 January 2016 10:52 (eight years ago) link

Forgot about that...Haven't seen it in a while, so I can't quite remember her in it--I always think of Susan Anspach and the art-gallery woman in Play It Again. I've never heard "Escalator Over the Hill"--interesting.

clemenza, Friday, 8 January 2016 12:25 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I really enjoyed a lot of this series--all the stuff that made me think about stuff--but Mrs. Warhol was not a good way to end. An hour of Warhol's mother puttering around the kitchen while Richard Rheem, about 50 years her junior, kind of half humors her and half affectionately mocks her. I think it's supposed to be charming; I was bored out of my mind.

clemenza, Sunday, 24 January 2016 23:19 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Nude Restaurant screens in Brooklyn tomw night

http://www.bam.org/film/2016/the-nude-restaurant

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 March 2016 14:59 (eight years ago) link

eight months pass...

Saw newly restored Drunk aka Drink last night. Emile de Antonio, bolting J&B, is a riot in the first reel, just sad in the second. Catch it when you can.

https://www.moma.org/calendar/events/2521?locale=en

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 November 2016 14:04 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

a lot of NYC cinephiles are excited about tomorrow's screening of Empire at the Whitney

but, y'know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuSIOK5Jj8g

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 January 2019 12:29 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

"Kiss" by Andy Warhol (1963–64) is now streaming through @MoMAFilm in a newly restored edition. Could be the first time a Warhol 16mm classic has legally appeared on the inner nets. https://t.co/FqJHxHrmTK

— Dave Kehr (@dave_kehr) August 13, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 16 August 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Blow Job, Chelsea Girls, Vinyl and more available as legit rentable streams!

https://stream.warhol.org/browse

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 03:33 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

My friend and I did a Zoomcast on Scorpio Rising, Vinyl, and Pink Flamingos (their soundtracks being the link.) I hadn't seen Vinyl in a long time, but I've really come to love it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqxkK_qmf8c&t

clemenza, Monday, 9 January 2023 14:44 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

37th anniversary of his death. Played parts of three Screen Tests (Mary Woronov, Nico, Dylan) for a grade 7 class, the first two with music from the Dean & Britta LP 13 Most Beautiful: Songs for Andy Warhol's Screen Tests. No idea what they thought.

"Anybody love those?" (no reaction)
"Anybody hate those?" (no reaction)

Maybe their blank stares were meant as a tribute to Warhol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHq9OEj4SvQ

clemenza, Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:07 (two months ago) link


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