High Fidelity: Classic Or Dud?

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It was set in Chicago because the musical Chicago had just come to London and the whole fabric of society would have collapsed unless art evened itself out.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:54 (twenty years ago) link

yeah don't you know you're supposed to like all things equally? what's wroung with you?

xxxpost

― ooops, Thursday, 29 April 2004 12:54 (twenty years ago) link

i'm half-scottish, half-irish.
to be honest i am glad i had the privilege of growing up in england, not scotland, otherwise i could have had a cultural life that consisted entirely of tennents super, sectarian football hooliganism and heroin.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:01 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, Dave.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:02 (twenty years ago) link

No, making sweeping generilisations is moronic.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:02 (twenty years ago) link

Dave, you have my sympathy.

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:03 (twenty years ago) link

okay, okay - you gave the world golf, i could have had that if if was, like, real lucky.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:05 (twenty years ago) link

Where I pointed out that a book was too english and had to be made more 'american' for a wider audience, I wasn't being a narrow minded racist buffoon. Unlike your goodself to whom insulting people who are not being offensive seems to come frighteningly easily.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:05 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, well I'm from Essex and I used to be a goth. You can't get more marginalised than that.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:06 (twenty years ago) link

exactly - it was a really stupid thing for me to say and that wasn't what you were saying at all. it was a flippant classic kneekjerk bit of english-hating. i KNOW when i'm being an idiot.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:07 (twenty years ago) link

This thread is not English enough. I demand some stiff upper lip.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:08 (twenty years ago) link

But you're alright now, right Mikey?

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:08 (twenty years ago) link

Um, are you sure Dave?

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:09 (twenty years ago) link

sure about what?

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:11 (twenty years ago) link

I'm fine thanks. Although after Chris & Vicky's wedding, my girlfriend asked what music we would have if we got married. I said Bauhaus.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:13 (twenty years ago) link

Why on earth would you say it's english-hating? Again, generalisation. Do all Scots hate the English? Even ones like myself with English relatives? How the hell can you possibly categorise me? Someone you know nothing about other than the personality you appear to have attributed to me? You foolish foolish man.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:14 (twenty years ago) link

I'm fine thanks. Although after Chris & Vicky's wedding, my girlfriend asked what music we would have if we got married. I said Bauhaus.

the proclaimers

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:15 (twenty years ago) link

x-post - well you said "too englishy" (whatever the fuck that is) as perjorative. i'm just calling it as i see it.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago) link

Madness.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago) link

So wait, you're from _Scotland_, and you're complaining it's too English? Well, fair enough I suppose, it is a book.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:17 (twenty years ago) link

Eh, look at Smees post regarding the setting and culture-speak in the book and you'll know what I meant.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:17 (twenty years ago) link

Too uplifting.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:18 (twenty years ago) link

The Proclaimers that is. Not this silly argument.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:20 (twenty years ago) link

In chimes Andrew with a racist comment against Scots. Here we go. Sigh.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:20 (twenty years ago) link

that i might benefit from the many delights scotland has bestowed on us poor philistine folks south of the border, i will listen to deacon blue and runrig for the rest of the day.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:21 (twenty years ago) link

Well, when someone takes something out of context, gets their hackles up and starts retaliating with pish about drug addicts I feel compelled to defend myself. This is the first disagreement I have ever had on this board, as a mixed race person living in Scotland I do not have any strong patriotic ties so I would have absolutely no reason to chant racist pish to anyone. And I don't.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:24 (twenty years ago) link

"In chimes Andrew with a racist comment against Scots. Here we go. Sigh."

Am I reading a different thread? Is what Andrew said racist?

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:24 (twenty years ago) link

It clearly implied that 'scots don't read books'. Or am I misconstruing this? Please explain if I am.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:25 (twenty years ago) link

It didn't come across that way to me. Only Andrew will know of course. I think you're a little wound up and reading between the lines.

I say we all take our clothes off.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:27 (twenty years ago) link

Ignore Andrew F, he's showing his usual arrogant English cultural imperialistic snobbery.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:28 (twenty years ago) link

you said something was TOO ENGLISH - i know i was talking bollocks... i was doing it to prove a point

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:28 (twenty years ago) link

yeah andrew's the worst example of stuck-up englishness, just like that ronan

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:29 (twenty years ago) link

Can I point out that delicious irony that half the bands bigged up in the film are SCOTTISH?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:29 (twenty years ago) link

To prove a point. Okay, tell me what i said that was in any way derogatory to english people. Go on. Something preferably on par with your sick-making drug addict/sectarianism quip.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:31 (twenty years ago) link

oh i am not repeating myself again... and don't forget the alcoholics

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:32 (twenty years ago) link

Are any of the bands Runrig or the Proclaimers? Deacon Blue? Cause this is the only music we produce Matt.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:32 (twenty years ago) link

Repeating yourself? You haven't yet stated what my racially pointed comment was.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

Donald where's your trousers?

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:34 (twenty years ago) link

That and the natural music of the agonised screams of tenement blocks.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:34 (twenty years ago) link

The Beta Band bit is naffest evah. I was tres disappointed with the film, and I like Cusack AND Jack Black. It's no 'Con Air', put it that way.

BTW 'Con Air' FACT: 'In Da Club' is a clear steal off of the soundtrack. Truly.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:34 (twenty years ago) link

That's only racially pointed if you're not called Donald and you are wearing trousers.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:35 (twenty years ago) link

I was winding up Scottish nationalists, a hobby of mine (the local nationalists are bit too dangerous to wind up).

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:35 (twenty years ago) link

Dave, you're being a prick.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:35 (twenty years ago) link

Crumbling estates and lush glens. Scotland - the land of contrasts.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:36 (twenty years ago) link

He [Jack Black]doesn't even act, does anyone doubt he's actually exactly like his "characters" in real life?

Does this really matter? As long as the characters he's playing are reasonably close to what you seem to think is his real-life personality, does it matter that he's not an "actor"? At least in terms of High Fidelity, Black is much more convincing in his role than Cusack, who seems to think that squinting makes him edgy.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:36 (twenty years ago) link

Dave is surely winding up those that are getting so offended.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:36 (twenty years ago) link

yeah he's being a prick

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:37 (twenty years ago) link

Jack Black was very convincing as Jack Black, but that was what the role called for.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:38 (twenty years ago) link

xpost

Squinting and shouting and wearing T-shirts (possibly the latter is not down to him).

I like Cusack in general.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:38 (twenty years ago) link

Wot N said just about sums up my thoughts on this one...

― smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:39 (twenty years ago) link

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