― paul cox (paul cox), Friday, 18 October 2002 03:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
also because rock the casbah still gets modern radio play.
also because avril lavirgne doesn't want to be punk anymore
also because blink 182 are still around and the offspring really aren't.
also because punk was dead the moment the sex pistols album came out because "the real fans" didn't buy it and
also be... I can't do this anymore.
Jess is right.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 18 October 2002 03:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
hrrm...
― gygax!, Friday, 18 October 2002 03:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― geeta (geeta), Friday, 18 October 2002 04:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
i think punk as three chord jamz is deadish. and that had more in common with pop.
but punk as do-it-yourself, anything goes music is totally alive and well... it's just in different forms than the three chords style mentioned above.
gurgle,m.
― msp, Friday, 18 October 2002 05:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 18 October 2002 05:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Famous Athlete, Friday, 18 October 2002 05:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― geeta (geeta), Friday, 18 October 2002 05:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 18 October 2002 05:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 18 October 2002 12:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 18 October 2002 13:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Friday, 18 October 2002 13:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mt, Friday, 18 October 2002 13:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
m.
― msp, Friday, 18 October 2002 16:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Friday, 18 October 2002 17:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― David Allen, Friday, 18 October 2002 17:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 18 October 2002 21:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ashley Andel, Saturday, 19 October 2002 00:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Saturday, 19 October 2002 16:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jones (actual), Saturday, 19 October 2002 17:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
They were chose by Malcolm McLaren for what they looked like.
Then, they weren't about the music, they were about the confrontation.
― David Allen, Saturday, 19 October 2002 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 19 October 2002 18:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― threemetalinsects (threemetalinsects), Sunday, 20 October 2002 00:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
Why, though?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 October 2002 00:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
i'm with msp.
― di smith (lucylurex), Sunday, 20 October 2002 00:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― threemetalinsects (threemetalinsects), Sunday, 20 October 2002 04:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― bnw (bnw), Sunday, 20 October 2002 06:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 20 October 2002 06:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 20 October 2002 08:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ashley Andel, Sunday, 20 October 2002 15:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ashley Andel, Sunday, 20 October 2002 15:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 20 October 2002 20:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― threemetalinsects (threemetalinsects), Sunday, 20 October 2002 22:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 20 October 2002 23:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Sunday, 20 October 2002 23:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 20 October 2002 23:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Sunday, 20 October 2002 23:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
This guy says yes!
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/getback/144976/hot-topic-punks-in-a-fake-punk-world/
― xhuxk, Monday, 5 October 2009 04:00 (fourteen years ago) link
i've been reading "please kill me" lately and thinking that I can't really imagine this sort of thing happening again. obviously post-60's misery had a lot to do with it. and since I can't imagine anyone being as naive as they were in the 60's again, I don't see a reaction, a legitimate, real reaction, to culture like this happening one more time. but i'll probably be proven wrong.
― akm, Monday, 5 October 2009 04:18 (fourteen years ago) link
when the next one comes, we won't even hear it approaching till its exploding around us. like a V2 rocket.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Now that lots of old fanzines are getting scanned in and posted to blogs, I wish I had the time to make a compendium of "punk is dead" essays from the last 30 years. The perfect topic for the last page of the fifth issue of your 'zine, one issue before you give up, and three months before you get listed in Factsheet Five. Last page of issue four is complaining about skinheads.
― bendy, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link
OTM. And I'm not dead. Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough.
― Soukesian, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link
― akm, Monday, October 5, 2009 4:18 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
in "enter naomi: sst and all that" by joe carducci he says something like "punk was really just the nihilistic phase of hippie" which i always kinda liked
― misonysportswalkman weighs a ton (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link
That's a great line, but so much of the hippy stuff was pretty nihilistic even really early on - punk just came up after the hippies had kids and got all hair-shirted about their nihilism.
― Brio, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Stewart Home reckons that the hardcore remnants of the 60's underground were a key element in London punk: Lemmy, Mick Farren, CR@SS, Charlie Harper, Captain Sensible and of course Maclaren, Westwood and Rhodes.
― Soukesian, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
"The perfect topic for the last page of the fifth issue of your 'zine, one issue before you give up, and three months before you get listed in Factsheet Five. Last page of issue four is complaining about skinheads."
This zine could be your life.
― Giorgio Marauder (I eat cannibals), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link
― Brio, Tuesday, October 6, 2009 9:01 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i'm sort of selling the whole line of thinking short...it's way better in the book which is required reading about the idea of Punk, at least the L.A. branch IMO...
punks were too old to be hippie's kids though, punk is already formed while hippie is still going (as you point out)
― misonysportswalkman weighs a ton (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link
But we didn't give up.
― Soukesian, Friday, 9 October 2009 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link
i didn't say that either. people found other more productive ways to change things. if change is what they were truly after. and sometimes this simply meant a spiritual change. not giving up really. maybe giving in a little sometimes.
― scott seward, Friday, 9 October 2009 00:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Brit far-left dig in their heels more, for sure. It's reflexive, may be less considered, but a lot more joyous than the American far-left. At least in my limited experience.
― bendy, Friday, 9 October 2009 01:00 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sap/2018/10/10/how-punk-rock-can-revitalize-human-resources
― mookieproof, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link
if it wasn't before, it is now
― Neil S, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
Dis-rupt!
― saddest kamancheh (bendy), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link
Dressed in multicolored pants, combat boots and spiked leather bracelets, SAP’s Chief Human Resources Officer, Stefan Ries proudly strut onto the stage of the MGM Park Theater in Las Vegas to the strains of “Bring Me to Life” by Evanesence.Ries was here to pump up of thousands of HR professional in attendance for the annual SAP SuccessConnect event, but a more important mission statement soon emerged, emblazoned across his black tee shirt: “HR Punks.”“The heart of the human revolution is us,” said Ries. “The old days of HR are over. Today onward we need to revolutionize and the best people who can do this are HR punks.”
Ries was here to pump up of thousands of HR professional in attendance for the annual SAP SuccessConnect event, but a more important mission statement soon emerged, emblazoned across his black tee shirt: “HR Punks.”
“The heart of the human revolution is us,” said Ries. “The old days of HR are over. Today onward we need to revolutionize and the best people who can do this are HR punks.”
https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5bbde1134bbe6f7684a6744d/960x0.jpg?fit=scale
― hey, nifty clam! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link
imagine how excruciatingly embarrassing it would be to be one of this guy's children
oh god i'm so depressed
― Leon Carrotsky (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link
have you considered cheering yourself up by strapping on some spiked leather bracelets and strutting proudly to the strains of 'bring me to life' by evanesence?
― hey, nifty clam! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link
imagine getting fired by some cunt in a clown costume
― Leon Carrotsky (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link
punke
― imago, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W8h4W6IBGc
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
"Glad to see you go go go go goodbye/ Glad to see you go go go go goodbye"
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
Struggling to think of a single figure from the punk era who wouldn't have been an HR nightmare. Strummer maybe.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
broke: punkwoke: steampunkbespoke: hrpunk
― hey, nifty clam! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link
(xp) Glen Matlock obv.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link
skrewdriver were good at following orders iirc
― hey, nifty clam! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link
pogo in the boardroom!
(but only when your stocks go up)
― mark s, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
Line Manager Sensible
― Leon Carrotsky (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
http://www.cvltnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Bad-Brains-1979-.jpg
true punk HR
― mookieproof, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
"We're moving the HR Department, the general opinion among the management team is that the ground floor should be used for more front facing departments and the 1st floor for finance and upper management, do you or your team have any objections?"
"I Don't Wanna Go Down to the Basement"
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link
how perry como can revitalize human resources.
― how's life, Thursday, 11 October 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
Strummer would go AWOL to Europe for weeks to hide from his boss, but at least he never stuck up for his subordinates when they were being bullied incessantly in the workplace
― My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Thursday, 11 October 2018 17:14 (five years ago) link
that is a hilarious forbes article
― niels, Friday, 12 October 2018 09:01 (five years ago) link
old punker fite - https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/03/johnny-rotten-and-marky-ramone-fight/
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 8 March 2019 04:28 (five years ago) link
Yes
― nathom, Friday, 8 March 2019 15:20 (five years ago) link
Legit beef or staged?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 8 March 2019 15:41 (five years ago) link
what a surprise I'm on Team Everybody but John fucking Lydon
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 8 March 2019 15:58 (five years ago) link
I don't think it was staged, Marky looked genuinely mad
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:09 (five years ago) link
Assume Lydon just likes to insult people, especially turning it on whilst in Johnny Rotten character and, much like a Don Rickles audience, you’re expected to play along.
― Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:13 (five years ago) link
Johnny Rotten really looks like a potato.
― ☮ (peace, man), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link
Eh...I guess you would not expect any different a result. One thing I always got that was Lydon blamed the nyc punk rock junkies for hooking Sid bad onto smack, so it was not unexpected for him to be hostile to an old nyc punk. Marky also threw some shade towards in the MC5 in that exchange too.
― earlnash, Saturday, 9 March 2019 10:17 (five years ago) link
Marky obv. from the apolitical it's only rock 'n' roll school but Lydon is talking garbage, of course.
― The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 March 2019 10:20 (five years ago) link
Before the PiL show last year there was a $50 meet n greet, I assume it was just a few minutes of personalized abuse from Lydon.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 9 March 2019 11:01 (five years ago) link
Marky is an oaf, Lydon is a clown
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 9 March 2019 19:27 (five years ago) link
And oh I don’t lol why
― Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 March 2019 19:47 (five years ago) link
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 9 March 2019 23:31 (five years ago) link
TBH kinda was hoping Marky would get up and deck Rotten that whole time
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 10 March 2019 00:00 (five years ago) link
He doesn't want to risk his wig falling off
― kurt schwitterz, Sunday, 10 March 2019 00:04 (five years ago) link
And oh I don’t lol why― curmudgeon
― curmudgeon
― Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 March 2019 00:31 (five years ago) link
Punk's not dead, I just find it difficult to care about it in 2019.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 10 March 2019 07:46 (five years ago) link
really sad to watch them argue about the things that happened between 1976-1981
john lydon is a fucking idiot these days and has been a has been for a very long time, but he can never erase the importance of his old bands.
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 07:53 (five years ago) link
I don't know, John always seems to be playing a character in public. I've heard tell that he's much more approachable in person. God help you if you're a clueless member of the press, though.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 10 March 2019 15:35 (five years ago) link