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they discovered the bossa nova, if the wonderful Sweet Tip is any indication.

Mr. Hal Jam, Friday, 17 August 2007 12:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Sweet Tip was a nice record, but those horrible sleeve pics!

still think 'Clear Skin' was their watermark...

vote "Distractions"!

(though the "Off The Wall" bass line in "Walking In Straight Lines" almost puts that one in the catbird seat)

henry s, Friday, 17 August 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link

love this album. im voting 'distractions'.

Michael B, Friday, 17 August 2007 13:56 (sixteen years ago) link

it's funny, i think "carly simon" and "yes" are probably my least favourite songs on the album, yet they are still better than like 97% of my record collection

r1o natsume, Friday, 17 August 2007 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Thursday, 23 August 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I forgot to vote!

Tim F, Friday, 24 August 2007 03:53 (sixteen years ago) link

WELL JEEZ

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2007 04:02 (sixteen years ago) link

haha. so sad. i didn't vote, either. and really, i absolutely love the music these people make. all of it. i just couldn't really see any point in choosing a favorite here, though. the whole damn thing is pretty great.

andi, Friday, 24 August 2007 05:12 (sixteen years ago) link

3 of us voted?!...well, fuck me running!...how is it that this fine LP could be so washed away by the sands of time?

henry s, Friday, 24 August 2007 12:58 (sixteen years ago) link

haha i also totally forgot to vote. shame.

r1o natsume, Friday, 24 August 2007 13:01 (sixteen years ago) link

i would've definitely gone for "relentless" in the end. at risk of sounding incredibly corny, this record is totally balearic right? slow house beats, shimmering vini reilly guitar, hushed vocals, i suppose the lyrics don't really fit with balearica but. maybe it's balearic if the cafe del mar was in antartica

r1o natsume, Friday, 24 August 2007 13:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Was this one of the three LPs that launched Guernica or was it the 2nd wave? This, Spoonfed Hybrid and That Dog all within a week or two of each other in late '93 - I bought the lot on vinyl at (the late, lamented) Rham Records in Wallasey before leaving home for the last time to start my new job. I had to tape them on the Crown music-centre the night I packed as I didn't have a record player in my new flat until the following summer...

I think Koogy went to the label launch - he got me a free CD promo which is probably worth...oh, a fiver? on eBay now...

Julian Tardo of Insides was running his own studio in Brighton until quite recently, I think - friends of mine have recorded with him. One late, lamented friend in particular...

Michael Jones, Friday, 24 August 2007 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link

was there ever a second Guernica wave?...I thought that the three you mention (plus the Unrest record) were the only ones on that (great, lost) imprint...

I've said it before and I'll say it again...'Euphoria' needs to be remastered...

henry s, Friday, 24 August 2007 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Bettie Serveert's Palomine was part of the first wave (GU003). Guernica also reissued the Underground Lovers' Leaves Me Blind and ended on the high-note of Insides' Clear Skin mini-LP.

Mr. Hal Jam, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I got that Underground Lovers' rerelease completely out of nowhere at UCI's newspaper back in 1992 or 1993 or whenever it was. Very glad for that still.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:09 (sixteen years ago) link

forgot about Underground Lovers...

wasn't Clear Skin a 4AD release?

henry s, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link

TU7 cat no. = "Temporary" Guernica release. the last, to date.

Mr. Hal Jam, Friday, 24 August 2007 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

guess LMB wasn't a re-release. first issue was in the UK, on Guernica. released in Australia on Polydor later that year ('94). i must have been thinking about the US version of Dream it Down, which IIRC swapped out four new tracks for LMB tracks.

Mr. Hal Jam, Friday, 24 August 2007 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I managed to finally hear this record. I remember when it came out because I had a friend who was really into 4AD and basically bought everything they released during this period, but he never managed to acquire this one. A lot of stuff on the label at the time managed to sound gothy even when it wasn't trying to (cf., the first couple of HNIA records).

It's a good record and the production on it sounds exactly like an AR Kane record. I especially like how they recorded the drum machines and the sampled loop of wobbly cymbals on the final track is esp. nice. My only complaint is that the vocals do kind of get in the way a little bit. I prefer them on the tracks where they are more buried in the mix even though the bjork-ish phrasing is a little irritating also. I think I will mostly get beyond these criticisms on a few repeat listenings though. This one is a grower, as they say.

Guernica put out a special edition of Unrest's Imperial FFRR in the UK and Europe if I recall.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 24 August 2007 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, now I remember - the first Guernica wave was late '92 - Unrest (who subsequently released stuff on 4AD proper), Underground Lovers, Bettie Serveert (two of those were reissues or licensing things from other labels - maybe all of 'em); then Spoonfed/Insides/That Dog in '93, then the Insides one-off in mid-'94. I bought 'em on vinyl because you got a free 7" with the LPs (obv "Clear Skin" was CD only).

Michael Jones, Friday, 24 August 2007 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

This record is excruciatingly beautiful. Like huddling under heavy blankets, sweating, turned on, listening to someone tell you their darkest thoughts. It makes me sad that so few answered this poll or responded to this thread, but it makes sense. It's just such a private record, almost embarassingly so, and in fact I just realized I don't think I've ever shared my love of this record with anyone else. Even listening to it makes me feel almost uncomfortably vulnerable. I love it.

Clarke, Monday, 11 August 2008 01:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Clarke B?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 August 2008 01:40 (fifteen years ago) link

It's me! Hey Ned... "Long time" would be an understatement.

Clarke, Monday, 11 August 2008 01:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes indeed, you drunken sommelier. :-D How's that all going?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 August 2008 01:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, I'm still up in Brooklyn, working for the French portfolio of a small-ish wine importer, and really enjoying my work. For a while I was so immersed in wine, and trying to catch myself up in terms of knowledge and experience, that I feel like my other interests dropped off a bit... But I suppose balance beckons to be restored, and so I find myself on my couch on a humid Sunday night, reading ILM and thinking about this beautiful, beautiful album. :-)

Clarke, Monday, 11 August 2008 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

And a fine choice of album indeed. I haven't listened to it in a bit and will do so now.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 August 2008 02:04 (fifteen years ago) link

What did you think, Ned? ("Darling Effect" would have to be my favorite.)

Clarke, Thursday, 14 August 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

"Distractions" sounds like "Love To Stay" by Altered Images

Nubly, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Digging around I found the few non-album songs by Earwig, Insides' immediate predecessor, that I didn't have on their own one album, Under My Skin I Am Laughing. (Most of the B-sides/singles got collected on a compilation, Past, but I've still never been able to find a copy of that.) Mixed batch but I like them, you can hear them being a louder 'rock' band as such early on.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 01:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I had a copy of Past, the only copy I've ever seen, and I accidentally sold it back to Amoeba last year in a box along with a ton of other things. I went back to find it later that week and it was nowhere to be found. That said, despite the scarcity of it, I didn't find it that great; Under my Skin was much much better.

akm, Monday, 7 December 2009 05:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Agreed, the singles are more woodshedding than anything else. But you can hear them start to settle on a sound as they go.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 05:20 (fourteen years ago) link

looking at this:

http://eil.com/Shop/ExtSearch.asp?DiscArtist=Earwig

all three of those ep covers look very familiar but i could've sworn i was missing one. or maybe i'm missing a 4th ep. ah, yes, the Every Day Shines 12".

there was also an insides promo 12" with clear skin remixes on it that i found cheap in notting hill but my copy of which i think jumps. (Eyesore DB says GUP4)

as mike said i went to the label launch (Borderline (Break For The Border?), London, same place i saw UVS and that first B&S gig) where insides played two sets, the first of which became Clear Skin. mesmerising to the point where you had to remember to breathe. years later i heard steve reich and the spell was somewhat broken but hey...

koogs, Monday, 7 December 2009 11:08 (fourteen years ago) link

there was also an insides promo 12" with clear skin remixes on it

! Now that I'd love to hear.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually somehow I had missed that the original release of Euphoria had a separate 7" single as well.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

> Now that I'd love to hear.

if only someone had, say, posted it on an mp3 blog (and on my birthday too)

http://theblackenedair.blogspot.com/2009/10/insides-clear-skin-promo.html

koogs, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Astounding.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

And thanks!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow thanks Koogs!

I still have never heard the Earwig album or Clear Skin itself, appallingly.

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Good lord, man.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha I know - it actually feels vaguely shameful considering how important Euphoria has been to me for so long.

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Me on Under My Skin from ten years back:

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/1999/02/earwig/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Ned I've been imagining the record ever since I read your review ten years ago! That was the first I'd heard of it - I think i actually picked up Euphoria that year due to all the cross-references with Disco Inferno, Bark Psychosis etc.

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

cross-references on a.m.a. I mean.

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Something really needs to be done about this! And that sounds like something that would be cross-referenced on a.m.a. that way...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

tim i have clear skin, if i can track down the cd in my many boxes i will set it aside for you

an error has occurred (electricsound), Monday, 7 December 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks Jim! No pressure though, I know what scouring through boxes of CDs is like...

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_QYRtOGRVU

so sick

rionat, Friday, 1 January 2010 11:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i hate lovers
i hate the way they go to the bathroom
in shifts
after
they fuck

rionat, Friday, 1 January 2010 11:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Possibly my favorite song by them, definitely my favorite lyric.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 January 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link

When I pre-ordered the vinyl in September, I was able to download the entire album from their bandcamp at the same time - pretty sure this was an unintentional glitch as it disappeared from there shortly after. It is completely great though.

technopolis, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 14:20 (three years ago) link

sounds tremendous on first listen, think i'm going to be v. good friends with this record

kites aren't fun (NickB), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 14:24 (three years ago) link

It's so languid and resigned and because it's: a new Insides record!, that sounds like Insides!, it's consequently totally thrilling and comforting and not-comforting. Obv not a 'joyous' record but it is a joyous listen

technopolis, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link

I got mine yesterday and I really like it

Oor Neechy, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 18:06 (three years ago) link

jealous af

||||||||, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 22:44 (three years ago) link

cant believe how late ive been to this but i discovered them last year & am obsessed ... good timing

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link

absolutely dreamy record, full of great moments, not one weak track on it

kites aren't fun (NickB), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 23:04 (three years ago) link

Yeah thanks to the revive I listened to this for the first time and I’m in love.

All cars are bad (Euler), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link

why would they not release the digital to people who preordered on Bandcamp? I did it on a BC Friday and they don’t have to send me any physical product, I could argue that paying for the digital is more purely supportive, but no download available.

assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 00:36 (three years ago) link

They are doing a paid live show online next Friday. Details here: https://www.facebook.com/events/403800307608131

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 06:42 (three years ago) link

oh nice!

kites aren't fun (NickB), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 09:19 (three years ago) link

glad to hear of people discovering this record now! I could see it being a good moment to hear it for the first time

rob, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link

Speaking of first times -- shout out to boy_slayer -- I'm listening to Earwig for the first time (not sure how I missed them as thanks to a girlfriend's cool older sister I've been listening to Euphoria since 1995) and it's great.

btw anyone on this thread who hasn't checked out CS + Kreme would likely benefit: CS + Kreme - Snoopy

rob, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 14:21 (three years ago) link

Livestream show this Friday!

https://www.meltingvinyl.co.uk/event/insides-live-stream-from-st-georges-church/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 January 2021 01:09 (three years ago) link

Oh I see Chewshabadoo posted that! Well, to say again!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 January 2021 01:09 (three years ago) link

It bears repeating!

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 11 January 2021 11:30 (three years ago) link

Is "Really good but not as good as Euphoria" a fair assessment?

I know that sounds a bit grouchy of me.

djh, Monday, 11 January 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link

I mean, Euphoria is comfortably all-time-top-10, so I think it's reasonable to acknowledge that it isn't better than that. But it's still completely wonderful that this exists and it as great as it is

technopolis, Monday, 11 January 2021 19:02 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnJcKS5Tt1I

marg bar āmrikā (||||||||), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 20:00 (three years ago) link

^ Wow. Thanks for posting.

djh, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 00:28 (three years ago) link

Livestream happening now. What a lovely performance.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:15 (three years ago) link

Also watching it live!

hamicle, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link

Yes indeed!

kieth chagrin (NickB), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link

Well that was really lovely. All these years and I've finally seen them live -- in a way, at least!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link

yeah it was great. sad lols about the emf anecdote!

kieth chagrin (NickB), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link

Ha, I had to briefly step away at one song break so I must have missed it. What was the gist?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:34 (three years ago) link

kirsty said that they were used to playing empty venues. apparently they once played a show at the Univerity of London Union and only one person came to see them, and that was the guy from EMF

kieth chagrin (NickB), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:39 (three years ago) link

don't know if she was joking, but it sounded a bit too random to not be true!

kieth chagrin (NickB), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:39 (three years ago) link

I thought Earwig had got decent reviews at the time they were around so somewhat surprised to hear that. I think I picked up Euphoria after the fact so assume I had seen good reviews of it. Thinking it must have been a cheap cd shop in Dublin in the late 90s.
Thought it got some recognition at the time.

Stevolende, Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:40 (three years ago) link

I don't remember the shows being *completely* empty the few times I saw Earwig, although they were in little places like the Camden Falcon. Not saying anecdote is... unbelievable.

Noel Emits, Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link

I just.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:54 (three years ago) link

Lol, Nick, you missed the punchline on the joke. After Kirtsy said that the only person who saw one of their shows was the guy from EMF, there was a brief pause before the follow on…

…drumroll…

“Unbelievable.”

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 16 January 2021 09:07 (three years ago) link

but i wanted to believe!

kieth chagrin (NickB), Saturday, 16 January 2021 09:34 (three years ago) link

good long interview: https://toneglow.substack.com/p/048-insides

adam, Thursday, 21 January 2021 00:21 (three years ago) link

Great interview! Nice to see some discussion of Sweet Tiptoo, which is a charming record really

technopolis, Thursday, 21 January 2021 07:51 (three years ago) link

I was in a bad mood the other day.

Glad I bought "Soft Bonds", glad I stumped up for the live show (which I think is available for £6.60 until tomorrow). Always thought they were brilliant ("Euphoria" is comfortably *Top 5*) but they seem lovely, too.

djh, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

All aware of this:

https://music.heavenslathe.co.uk/album/crumb-dropper?token=EC-54113655M49928549

100 only but copies currently available.

djh, Friday, 4 June 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

^ Digital version of this available from Friday, apparently.

djh, Monday, 1 November 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

both records £10 on bandcamp for bandcamp friday

im zelenky (||||||||), Friday, 1 April 2022 07:19 (two years ago) link

excellent, I can finally get a vinyl copy of Euphoria

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 1 April 2022 07:27 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

hey

It’s about time we started posting about this because l👀k ⬇️

Doors at 7, ends at 10. We’re doing a full set. All the rest of it. Look at the art. Smooch to the music. Forget your summer holiday. A FIVER?!https://t.co/s9zeoRdUkr pic.twitter.com/RrSRxeXWSp

— INSIDES (@Insides__) June 30, 2023

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:03 (nine months ago) link

Classically it is on a train strike day!

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 30 June 2023 20:27 (nine months ago) link

oh no wayyy! was definitely thinking about going

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Saturday, 1 July 2023 07:08 (nine months ago) link

three months pass...

I've been listening to a.s.o. and they're giving me Insides vibes in how moody and atmospheric it sounds, more on the trip hop style, but still. Very introspective avant pop, to give it a name. The lyrics are worth paying attention to, as well.
https://itsaso.bandcamp.com/album/a-s-o

chinchilla, Saturday, 28 October 2023 10:07 (five months ago) link


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