Rod McKuen: Awesome or Dud?

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"time of desire" (later re-released as "desire has no special time") is about as incomprehensibly fucked up a record as you can find, it's the non-stop sex record, an amazing snapshot of beat culture diluting over into the mainstream, you will lose your mind trying to understand how he thought it was okay to think it / write it / give it to a record company to put it out. it's been sampled.

"beatsville" and "listen to the warm", similar, you will wear a hole in your forehead from punching it with your fist

the later records are a bit easier to make fun of without hurting yourself

― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 2 December 2005 05:23 (eighteen years ago) link

that's to say, he's completely awesome

― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 2 December 2005 05:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Awesome. Although his output is pretty patchy - he's released probably hundreds of records over the years...

Search:
Lonesome Cities
Listen To The Warm
Cycles
Amour Amour (disco album!)

Destroy:
Concerto for Balloon and Orchestra.
Most of the other cheesy Stanyan Strings LP's

― Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Friday, 2 December 2005 06:43 (eighteen years ago) link

SEASONS IN THE SUN, y'all! if rod mckuen was good enough for jacques brel, then what's YER excuse?!?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 2 December 2005 07:18 (eighteen years ago) link

sensitive guy shtick was solid gold in the singles-bar era. McKuen probably got laid more than Warren Beatty and Kahil Ghibran combined.

― listen to the smarm (lovebug starski), Friday, 2 December 2005 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link

He's playing in Holland next week

― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Friday, 2 December 2005 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link

His translations of Brel (if they can be called that) are shit tho aren't they?

― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Friday, 2 December 2005 11:43 (eighteen years ago) link

oh they're a couple of steps past "shit"

― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

The only thing I've ever heard was one of the albums he did w/the san sebastian strings. It was fucking terrible, I mean possibly one of the worst records I've ever heard.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I have to recuse myself, as I was a member of the Rod McKuen Players in college. We performed spontaneous interpretive dance to the poetry of Rod. (I narrated, they danced. I also performed "Ode to Rod," in the guise / persona of The Young Allen Ginsberg.) We did this when we were drunk as bastardos at parties. Only once did we ever get anything thrown at us, but it was a lot of stuff so we counted it as suffering for our art.

I have about ten Rod albums. He is a sapmeister and a weak sister and I love him. His "Live at Carnegie Hall" album is brilliant.

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I laff whenever I hear him played on WFMU.

nearly wrecking "a boy named charlie brown" with his horrible theme song.

Yeah, I musta heard that at seven. Do you think Schulz signed off on that assignment?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

CLASSIC for "(i belong to the) beat generation."

Right. We wouldn't have Richard Hell's "Blank Generation" without it.

― Edward Bax (EdBax), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Check the "Friends' page on Rod's website, Rod and the Queen, Rod and Mancini, on and on. I assume "Mister Kelly" was his big fluffy dog?

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.actorsfund.org/PHOTOS/SOMETHINGWONDERFUL-LA/SOMETH5.jpg

how is this not awesome??

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Saturday, 3 December 2005 05:03 (eighteen years ago) link

*recoils in horror*

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Saturday, 3 December 2005 07:19 (eighteen years ago) link

do you think they are an item??

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Saturday, 3 December 2005 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link

"time of desire" (later re-released as "desire has no special time")

Hahahahahaha!!! Were the new liner notes a big apology for the first title?

― nickn (nickn), Saturday, 3 December 2005 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

Rod has passed.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-rod-mckuen-dies-at-81-20150129-story.html

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:34 (nine years ago) link

RIP

― pelvic slang (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 30 January 2015 09:17 (nine years ago) link

We had joy we had fun. RIP

― Number Nine Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 January 2015 12:08 (nine years ago) link

seven years pass...

Andy Zax did a killer PopCon presentation on Rod some years back and now he's got a podcast appearance today on the subject. Have a listen!

https://slate.com/podcasts/decoder-ring/2022/08/rod-mckuen-the-famous-poet-we-forgot

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 02:26 (one year ago) link

Excellent overview! I could probably listen to 10 hours of examination of the particulars in American culture that lined up to make stuff like this and Jonathan Livingston Seagull and Keane paintings and piña coladas possible

― Jaqueline Kasabian Oasis (bendy), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 13:28 (one year ago) link

In response to this episode my friend Ian Wade (very happily and openly gay) described In Search of Eros as 'the fruitiest album ever' and listening now, he's not wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-tWIA5SirY

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link

McKuen was extremely big in the Netherlands in the early 1970s, scoring two consecutive number ones in 1971, just when I started to become pop-conscious, with “Soldiers Who Want To Be Heroes” and “Without A Worry In The World” (another cover of a superior French original, not Brel this time, but Moustaki).

This is him in 2004, talking to Dutch TV about that anti-war hit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar8jc1zPwpQ

(lots of “fibbing” here as well: the “I’ve written songs with Madonna” bit refers to her sampling a San Sebastian Strings track from the 1960s that he co-wrote on “Drowned World/Substitute for Love”)

― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

Aaron Freeman AKA Gene Ween's McKuen covers album was pretty dang good.

― Cow_Art, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link

his (ever so vaguely discofied) version of the old chestnut “Amor, Amor” was a top 10 hit here in 1978: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lta_J6K_Umc

it’s from his ~~crisco~~disco album Slide… Easy In, the tutti-frutti-aw-rooty gatefold sleeve of which has to be seen to be believed:

https://queermusicheritage.com/OCT2012/mckuenLP1.jpg

― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

― Cow_Art, Thursday, 4 August 2022 02:16 (one year ago) link

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