NY Times article on UK writer Nik Cohn and his involvement with New Orleans rap pre- and post-Katrina

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Not til they put up the money to build the levee up to withstand Force 5, and not 'til the results are convincingly inspected: nobody go back 'til then, okay?

don, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 05:45 (eighteen years ago) link

According to the links I was reading on the "looka" blog( www.gumbopages.com/looka )and stuff I've read elsewhere the Bush admin. is only offering money for level 3 hurricanes and millions instead of billions for restoring the wetlands and marshes.

David Byrne wrote on his blog around the time he was playing a benefit for Katrina survivors that some New Orleans musicians might actually benefit from being out of the insular Crescent city world and interacting with musicians from elsewhere. That's of course easy for him to say...

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I haven't been to New Orleans in years, but based on my conversations with New Orleans and Louisiana musicians it's one of the best places in the country to be a musician, for the simple reason that people actually come out and hear live music, not as a special occasion but as a completely normal part of everyday life.

Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link

New Orleans musicians might actually benefit from being out of the insular Crescent city world and interacting with musicians from elsewhere. That's of course easy for him to say...

Right. On one level I'm selfishly happy to be able to see more of the N.O. musicians I love on tour, but on the other hand I'm (also selfishly) afraid of what's going to happen to the culture and the music.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

David Byrne from his September 16th entry at davidbyrne.com when he was preparing to play with a NY brass band at a New Orleans benefit:

"My friend Dicky Landry in Lafayette LA says that the influx of refugee New Orleans musicians into Cajun country may actually have a good effect on the music. New Orleans musicians are famously insular. Their city loves them, they’re appreciated and they work pretty steadily — the food is great, the music has deep roots — why bust your ass for little money taking your music elsewhere? Stay home, make them come to you. And they did.

But this meant that so many great musicians went unheard and unappreciated outside of the NO community that was and is familiar with the New Orleans sound. They had little incentive to spread their music and culture out to the rest of the world — it was always easier to simply stay where you were loved. And why not? Sometimes the world just didn’t get it.

I toured once with Coolbone, a brass hip-hop band from New Orleans. Jesus, what a feel these guys had! Live hip-hop, a concept that is only now becoming accepted. Their record, though pretty good, couldn’t capture the gut (and other parts) moving sound of the tuba playing the bass lines through a sub-harmonic synthesizer, which added extra bottom. Thump. It had to be experienced live. You couldn’t download the experience either.

Anyway, I could see that my audience, though appreciative, just wasn’t as taken by these guys as I was. Open any indie or alt-rock mag and you’ll see what an insular world it is — and it has opened up in the last decade! So, no surprise there.

But now, as Landry hints, this forced exodus, this sudden diaspora, may sprinkle a little funky seasoning on music from St. Louis to Austin, and the world might be better for it. In a perfect world, those dispersed musicians might flourish and be appreciated in those far-flung cites too. They’ll be homesick, but maybe some of them can cook as well."

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked the Nik Cohn piece on N.O. rap in Granta a while back. It definitely had a romantic outsider feel to it, but the writing was enjoyable.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Here it is...

http://www.granta.com/extracts/1439

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

nik cohn's written like that for like ever tho! maybe its just the clash of throwback hardboiled minimalism from another era that makes it feel all funny to ppl. i mean, throw in some southern diction and modern slang and you've got a better wally lamb, if you know what i'm saying.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

the tricky thing is to nurture a place where creativity can be nurtured, without it becoming too much about the *place.* Some people have to stay there, to keep it going, but there should be fresh arrivals and departures too. Not just New Orleans--I've heard musos refer to Austin as "the Velvet Coffin." Lots of college towns like that too.Of course, there can be different scenes in the same towns.

don, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:37 (eighteen years ago) link

"Not til they put up the money to build the levee up to withstand Force 5, and not 'til the results are convincingly inspected: nobody go back 'til then, okay?"

Too late.

Fetchboy (Felcher), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 04:56 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
so has anyone read triksta yet?

I'm halfway through and undecided. the book's pitched uneasily between self-deprecation and self-aggrandisement and as much about his history of self-mythologising as it is on bounce/NO rap, but his love of the music does pour thru. purple prose a bit hard to take at times tho...

barbarian cities (jaybob3005), Friday, 20 January 2006 10:41 (eighteen years ago) link

bounce.

barbarian cities (jaybob3005), Friday, 20 January 2006 10:43 (eighteen years ago) link

hmmm I'm still on the fence about reading this. Cohn's early stuff is classic but you're right about "purple prose" the old gaga New Journalism approach often seems self-indulgent in the 21st century.

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