― tarden, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Despite what 'The Sound and the Fury' might have suggested, Punk was much more than one group and a few fans from the wealthy suburbs of South London swearing on the telly.
The Stranglers were very much in place rubbing shoulders with the Damned (Soft Machine fans) and The Clash (101ers and Stranglers playing often at the pub rock Nashville). I don't think any much worried much about how to define punk rock music at the time it was well understood where they fitted, There was even a Sounds front page from early 77 describing the Stranglers with 'who ever heard of an angry Psychedelic band'? which put their Nuggets derived sound exactly in context of Punk and its antecedents - I recall it because it was that article that made me investigate the Nuggets album.
Perhaps it seems incongruous now that Punk Rock has a much narrower definition than it did at the time, but it was pretty easy to think of Wire, The Slits, Punilux, Metal Urbain, The Rezillos, Ultravox, The Jam and Throbbing Gristle as punk bands in 1977.
― Alexander Blair and Family, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― mark s, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
The Stranglers
Black & White (+6), CD $16.99 New package with extensive sleeve notes and many new, previously unseen photo's plus bonus tracks. Bonus tracks: 1.Mean To Me 2.Walk On By 3.Shut Up 4.Sverige 5.Old Codger 6.Tits. Country: UK. Release Date: 20-Aug-01
La Folie (+6), CD $16.99 New package with extensive sleeve notes and many new, previously unseen photo's plus bonus tracks. Bonus tracks: 1.Cruel Garden 2.Cocktain Nubiles 3.Vietnamerica 4.Love 30 5.You Hold The Key To My Love In Your Hands 6.Strange Little Girl. Country: UK. Release Date: 20-Aug-01
Live (X-Cert) (+6), CD $16.99 New package with extensive sleeve notes and many new, previously unseen photo's plus bonus tracks. Bonus tracks: 1.Peasant In The Big City 2.In The Shadows 3.Sometimes 4.Mean To Me 5.London Lady 6.Goodbye Toulouse. Country: UK. Release Date: 20-Aug-01
Meninblack (+3), CD $16.99 New package with extensive sleeve notes and many new, previously unseen photo's plus bonus tracks. Bonus tracks: 1.Top Secret 2.Meninwhite 3.Tomorrow Was Hereafter. Country: UK. Release Date: 20- Aug-01
No More Heroes (+3), CD $16.99 New package with extensive sleeve notes and many new, previously unseen photo's plus bonus tracks. Bonus tracks: 1.Straighten Out 2.Five Minutes 3.Rok It To The Moon. Country: UK. Release Date: 20- Aug-01
Rattus Norvegicus (+3), CD $16.99 New package with extensive sleeve notes and many new, previously unseen photo's plus bonus tracks. Bonus tracks: 1.Choosey Susie 2.Go Buddy Go 3.Peasant In The Big Shitty (Live). Country: UK. Release Date: 20-Aug-01
Raven (+4), CD $16.99 New package with extensive sleeve notes and many new, previously unseen photo's plus bonus tracks. Bonus tracks: 1.Bear Cage 2.Fools Rush Out 3.N'Emmenes Pas Harry 4.Yellowcake U.F.O. Country: UK. Release Date: 20-Aug-01
― DJ Martian, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― alex in nyc, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― duane, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Nick Greenfield, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Kim, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
and secondly:
with the possible exception of the Smiths -- I cannot think of another band who flagrantly re-foist ancient product on the public as much as the beloved Stranglers. says alex and this immediately made me think, "well, of course they didn't, as anyone who has been following news of the latest Smiths compilation cd will tell you. So often it is money-grubbing record companies acting without the bands' consent, much to their chagrin (cf Talk Talk & "history Revisited" remixes).
― MarkH, Wednesday, 11 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― DJ Paddington, Thursday, 13 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Jeff W, Thursday, 13 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Still buzzing with joy from Killing Joke's THE UNPERVERTED PANTOMIME? release on Alchemy records (formerlly NMC), I picked up a copy of Alchemy's new Stranglers release, APOLLO, a live recording from the Glasgow Apollo in 1981. Now while it's widely established that the world needs another live Stranglers album like it needs the SARS epidemic, I have to say, this one's a cracker! The sound is weighty yet clear.....JJ's bass comes rumbling out of the speakers with suitable sinewy menace. I'm also always happy to hear this era of the band -- Gospel According to the Meninblack -- captured live (as it seems it's usually very early stuff or yawnsome late career stuff that is widely avialable). That said.....some troubling questions/observations:
(a) There's a significant track listing cock-up. The track list states "Just Like Nothing on Earth" as the third selection, but it's actually "Second Coming" (itself listed at the fourth track). The fourth track is actually "The Man they Love to Hate" (incorrectly listed as well...see [b]). "Just Like Nothing on Earth" doesn't appear on the disc until track 8 (mislabelled as "Tank"). The jacket says there are 12 tracks. There are, actually, 17 tracks.
(b) Why are some of the track titles truncated? ("Non-Stop Nun" is shortened to simply "Non-Stop", "The Man they Love to Hate" is shortened simply to "Hate", "Let Me introduce You to the Family" is reduced to simply "Hate"). Were these printed in haste? Have Alchemy no fact-checkers?
(c) The deliciously sinister instumental, "Waltzinblack" appears *TWICE*, yet is not listed either time. This is followed by an inexplicable second appearance (same recording) of the first track, "Non-Stop Nun."
(d) The famed, Disney-ish Stranglers logo appears in the INNER booklet, yet does not adorn the front cover -- giving the proceedings a decidedly "bootlegy" feel. Is this not an authorized release?
(e) Why is there a picture of a contemporary model jaguar (the car) on the cover (when the music contained herein is from `81)?
(f) "Second Coming" also appears twice.
(g) As does "Meninblack"
(h) I was elated to find a live version of "The Raven" as the 17th track, but fans of this song wouldn't know it's on this album given the information on the sleeve (it is not listed).
(i) The liner notes -- written in first person, presumably by Alchemy mainman Carlton Sandercock, though I could be wrong -- feature no signature nor sign-off, leaving the reader wondering who wrote it.
All that said, it's a great collection of vintage Stranglers music. But some reprimands might be in order over at Alchemy for some of these glaring oversights.
Sorry to be Johnny Pedantic, the irritating Fanboy!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
Whoops, I too am in need of a fact-checker. It's reduced to simply "Family."
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:14 (twenty years ago) link
― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 17 July 2003 15:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 6 September 2004 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 07:17 (nineteen years ago) link
From Duchess they were prog really, weren't they. Maybe even from Black and White (note : this is a GOOD thing).
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 08:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― mzui, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 09:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Palomino (Palomino), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link
It's actually JJ that sings that, by the way.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link
Something Better Change? Are you certain?
― Palomino (Palomino), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link
Positive.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Palomino (Palomino), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Keith Watson (kmw), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Keith Watson (kmw), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― dave q, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Palomino (Palomino), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Christ almighty. Men have been hung for less.
― Palomino (Palomino), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Dave, if it had been anyone other that youself who said this.....they'd be dead now.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 06:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 08:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Styx released a series of great albums in the late '70's / early '80's?!?
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 09:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 09:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 09:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― dave q, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― briania (briania), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― dave q, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― dave q, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― briania (briania), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link
Nice posts! Are you secretly Hugh himself? (^_-)
I don't think I've heard a full Hugh solo album since "Hi-Fi". Your thoughts on them?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 14 March 2014 19:32 (ten years ago) link
Of the albums he's released since Hi Fi, I really enjoy Beyond Elysian Fields (produced by Tony Visconti), which is a real singer-songwriter type of album, mostly based around acoustic guitars. It has a couple of misfires (the corny Bob Dylan tribute '24/7' and the story song 'The Story Of Harry Power'), but on the other hand: 'Land of a Thousand Kisses' (which has a Feline-like vibe to it), 'Cadiz', 'Beauty On The Beach' and 'Henry Moore' are up there with some of his best solo tracks for me.
I also really enjoy his most recent one, Totem and Taboo, recorded with Steve Albini, which is a stripped down (as you'd expect) effort completely focused on electric guitar, bass, drums and voice. It's not as polished as Guilty or Hi Fi and thankfully far from the '80s cheese of Wolf (even though I feel there's some decent songs on there, the production for the most part really ruins them), and there's some great tracks on there: the title track, 'A Street Called Carroll', 'Bad Vibrations' to name three off the top of my head. 'Stuck In Daily Mail Land' even sounds like The Jam melodically, if you can imagine The Jam with Billy Bragg on vocals.
Of the rest: Hooverdam is rawer than Totem and Taboo and was recorded by Liam Watson, who did Elephant by The White Stripes, but I find the production on it anaemic and some of the songs not quite up to snuff. I love 'Please Don't Put Me On A Slowboat To Trowbridge', 'Delightful Nightmare' and 'Philip K. Ridiculous', but it also has a couple of dirges such as 'Pleasure Of Your Company' and 'Within You Or Without You' that I could do without. 'Wrong Side Of The Tracks' is eerily close to Hendrix's 'Crosstown Traffic' for comfort, too.
There's also the odds and sodds collection Footprints In The Desert which were demos of songs which were rejected from Guilty: it has the (in my mind) great single 'Everybody', but also has plenty of cheese on it such as 'Sex Bomb' and 'So Sexual'. If you can imagine some of the cheesier moments from Wired but even more cheesier, then that's the album in a nutshell. It's my least favourite Hugh release by miles, and I don't consider it a proper album in anyway.
There's also his Nosferatu-like side project, Sons Of Shiva, which is worth at least one listen. I think Hugh takes more of a behind the scenes role on the album, though.
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Friday, 14 March 2014 21:14 (ten years ago) link
In fact, thinking about Hugh has generally used better/"name" producers on his solo stuff than The Stranglers have on their stuff post-Hugh. Their last album was produced by one of their road crew!
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Friday, 14 March 2014 21:16 (ten years ago) link
So, I'm giving Dreamtime another listen tonight and finding it to be really hitting the spot. The best of the late Hugh period records, IMO.
― // C R A P L I V E B A N D // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 5 March 2016 18:14 (eight years ago) link
That one has declined in my estimation over the years whereas I still think "Aural Sculpture" is the best Epic album.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 5 March 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link
I like Aural Sculpture a lot, but I can't help but think how much better it could have been if they'd subbed in a couple of the B-sides for some of the lesser album tracks. 'In One Door' and 'Head On The Line' were easily good enough to be on the album proper, and maybe I'd take off 'Laughing' and 'Mad Hatter' ... Side One is great as is!
― // 58,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 5 March 2016 21:25 (eight years ago) link
Aural Sculpture is a produced a little flat, but the songs themselves are still so goddamn great -- my favorite being "Ice Queen."
― Alex in NYC, Saturday, 5 March 2016 21:59 (eight years ago) link
'Ice Queen' is great, yeah... I've always loved the way the brass comes bursting in on that! I think Sculpture was quite a fertile songwriting period for the band... not only did they have enough songs for a shitload of B-sides, but I'm quite sure one or two of the Dreamtime songs were written around the time of Sculpture... 'Shakin' Like a Leaf' was one, I think. 'You' dates from then, too, always felt that that was one that got away.
― // 58,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 5 March 2016 22:09 (eight years ago) link
"Ice Queen" is the song I use to erase earworms when I need to clear my mind. All I do is play it internally and by the end whatever unbidden song is gone.
If "Aural Sculpture" is produced flat, "Dreamtime" is produced like a mainstream rock album and suffers for it. "Always The Sun", though, is as good as anything else they did. But talk about b-sides being better: "Norman Normal" and "Since You Went Away" are far better than "Shakin' Like A Leaf" and "Big In America", both which feel forced.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 5 March 2016 22:58 (eight years ago) link
I like 'Instead of This' and 'Poisonality' so much more than anything from 10 that it isn't even funny. That album was a huge mistake for them to do, IMO, and life in the band seemed quite grim if Hugh's book is to be believed!
'Norman Normal'! That's the one I was thinking of as being another held over from Sculpture... I've always really liked both that one and 'Since You Went Away' ... I'm trying to remember off the top of my head what the other Dreamtime B-sides were... 'Dry Day'?
― // 58,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 5 March 2016 23:12 (eight years ago) link
Oh shit, 'Hit Man'... Let's forget about that one!
Why the hell wasn't 'Was It You?' a single!? "WAS IT YEEEAAAAOOOOW!?!"
― // 58,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Sunday, 6 March 2016 17:54 (eight years ago) link
For no reason whatsoever, my top ten Stranglers tracks at this very moment.....what are yours?
1. "Five Minutes"2. "Burning Up Time"3. "Ice Queen"4. "The Raven"5. "Just Like Nothing on Earth"6. "Norfolk Coast" (no, really .... it's excellent)7. "Straighten Out"8. "Hanging Around"9. "Waltzinblack"10. "Peaches"
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 6 March 2016 19:18 (eight years ago) link
In no particular order:
1. Peasant In The Big Shitty2. Curfew3. Toiler On The Sea4. The Raven5. Genetix6. Four Horsemen7. Tramp8. Skin Deep9. Was It You?10. Instead Of This
This changes on a daily basis, though!
― // 58,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Sunday, 6 March 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link
Simon Delic's brilliant revisit of The Stranglers' third album from 1978. It crawled deeper under my skin over the years, and eventually became my favorite by the Stranglers. What he said is spot-on, a cool mix of psych and post-punk elements that just barely predate work by Magazine and Joy Division.
http://www.backseatmafia.com/2016/02/19/not-forgotten-black-white-by-the-stranglers/
While doing a 1986 mix piece I realized Dreamtime is definitely worth a re-listen. Not so sure about Aural Sculpture but will go back to that too, and Feline.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 10 March 2016 14:26 (eight years ago) link
Naturally, I love Black and White, it's probably the starkest record they ever made. Of course, they'd experiment further on The Raven, The Gospel According To The Meninblack and La Folie, but those records feel much less stark and stripped-down to me. The only other Stranglers LP that I can think of with such a starkness is, weirdly, Feline.
For a band that were, at the time, noted for anthems like 'Grip', 'No More Heroes', 'Peaches', 'Something Better Change' and so on, tracks like 'Curfew', 'In The Shadows' and particularly 'Enough Time' (which the band tried to re-learn not too long ago, and struggled with it!) are such a huge leap into uncommercial territory. They definitely weren't seeking to please anyone but themselves by this time, a path which they definitely continued down until Aural Sculpture. I get the impression from Hugh's book that he'd tired of making exploratory music by the mid '80s and suddenly wanted to be, well, a pop star.
― // 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link
I mean, christ, I think Hugh's solo album Wolf, which was recorded and released during a time when the tensions that ultimately led to Hugh leaving were starting to rot Hugh's and JJ's friendship/working relationship, has some fine songs on it when they're freed from their heavy-handed production. But, it's definitely a record which is commonly seen as Hugh trying to have success at any cost, consciously trying to forge a distinct solo identity that had more in common with what Phil Collins was doing than his exploratory work with Robert Williams on Nosferatu. It was Cornwell's chinos era.
― // 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:36 (eight years ago) link
Hugh's solo work up through "Hi Fi" is pretty damn good, with "Guilty" being particular top drawer and just damn FUN.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 10 March 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link
Guilty is a great record, agreed! Possibly his best solo record - a great collection of songs that are well performed and Laurie Latham's production is top notch!
― // 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Thursday, 10 March 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link
Listened to "10" for the first time since 2001 - and doubtless will be my last time. Irredeemable, talk about losing the plot! The big standard synths, drumming and guitar licks are just so boring! "Out Of My Mind" is the only remotely interesting track.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 17 December 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link
I completely agree. A lot of hardcore fans blame Roy Thomas Baker's production, which to be fair is over the top and ill-fitting, and the fact they had to record the album twice after CBS thought the first recording (with future Oasis producer Owen Morris) was unsuitable. Personally, I just think they just didn't have a strong batch of material that time around. The one song I really like from that whole period is 'Instead of This', which was a B-side!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 17 December 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link
I'm seeing reports that Dave Greenfield has passed away and it was covid-related. :(
― Maresn3st, Monday, 4 May 2020 16:26 (four years ago) link
Sadly confirmed.
David Paul Greenfield (29/3/49-3/5/20) We are devastated to announce that Dave passed away last night from Covid 19. Fly straight DG xxx https://t.co/HmnAs1rERe pic.twitter.com/H2570s0cOb— The Stranglers Site (@StranglersSite) May 4, 2020
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 May 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link
Oh no!
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Monday, 4 May 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link
This is awful news, remember him this way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYkqLm9cM3Y
― all things must pasteurize (Matt #2), Monday, 4 May 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link
Terrible.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Monday, 4 May 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link
Aw, FFS. One of my all-time favourite musicians.
― The multiplying villainies of nature / Do swarm upon him (Vast Halo), Monday, 4 May 2020 18:16 (four years ago) link
Damn, RIP. I play keyboards very badly. DG set the bar I am for ever trying to reach and come nowhere near.
― Jeff W, Monday, 4 May 2020 18:35 (four years ago) link
Awful.
― stirmonster, Monday, 4 May 2020 18:43 (four years ago) link
Hugh’s tribute on Twitter
I am very sorry to hear of the passing of Dave Greenfield. He was the difference between The Stranglers and every other punk band. His musical skill and gentle nature gave an interesting twist to the band. (1 of 2)— Hugh Cornwell (@HughCornwell) May 4, 2020
― Jeff W, Monday, 4 May 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link
After their initial run on A&M I kind of lost track/interest, consequently I am listening to The Raven today for the first time ever in memorium. What a weird, wonderful band, with Dave's circus of keyboards coloring everything. RIP.
― Album Moods: Rambunctious; Snide (Dan Peterson), Monday, 4 May 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link
Goddamn it! Dave's keys are so otherworldly, it shouldn't have worked but it did in spades.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 4 May 2020 20:05 (four years ago) link
The Raven is my favourite.
He was the difference between The Stranglers and every other punk band.
100%.
― stirmonster, Monday, 4 May 2020 20:57 (four years ago) link
Wow, I'd love to be listening to "The Raven" for the first time ever!
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Monday, 4 May 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link
I know, right? I own Black and White, and Aural Sculpture, and missed the stretch in between. Youtube is not doing the sound justice, I think I need to buy a physical copy.
― Album Moods: Rambunctious; Snide (Dan Peterson), Monday, 4 May 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link
Oh man 'The Gospel According To The Men In Black' is brilliant too.
― Maresn3st, Monday, 4 May 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link
I'm seeing reports that Jet Black has passed away, 84!
― MaresNest, Thursday, 8 December 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link
It was common knowledge that they were older than the other punks on the scene, nevertheless 84 is still boggling my mind.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 8 December 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link
I had Laid Black in heavy rotation a number of years back. A departure from their usual, but one that somehow made sense.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 8 December 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link
restinpeaceinblack.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 8 December 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link
RIP JB
― Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 December 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link
Damn, I can't believe he was 40 in 1978!!
Love his work. His music will live forever.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 8 December 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link
Fucking icon.
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 8 December 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link
My two cents on the loss of Jet Black
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 8 December 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link