New Madonna single

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It's from the Freaky Trigger Pop Music Focus Group VII Russ - published this Saturday on a website near you!

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:20 (twenty-one years ago) link


But Tom, the Bond series has become an anachronism, so shouldn't the theme song be so as well?

That Bond single couldn't get over itself, yuck.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

if the bond series theme song wanted to be anachronistic, then they'd all be soundtracked by the propellerheads and then we'd have to kill ourselves

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

i dont think you can call Mirwais dated really* - the stuff he's been doing the last 3 years no-one else has really done to the same level in pop, with the possible exception of Fischerspooner (*unless you accept that sounding 'dated' is part of the plan)

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

i want to hear the Jacques Lu Cont produced stuff for Madonna. didnt she reject material produced for her by Brian Transeau too or am i thinking of someone else?

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

I thought that "Die Another Day" worked really well in the context of the movie - the psychology of torture soundtrack. Also, Mirwais rules. Go have sex to "Disco Science" (nb - do not try with Fischerspooner songs).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

I find it interesting that Madonna sounds more typically 80s now than she did in 1984. Anyway, a good thing for sure. :-)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

and what's the new single called?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

"It's Okay To Wear High Heels Whilst Doing Yoga Now"

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20030311/i/1047418255.3556843573.jpg

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

So I heard "American Life" today... The backing track's fairly interesting electro, but the lyrics are among the worse I've ever heard. And Madge: YOU CAN'T RAP!!!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

i fear it

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

the lyrics and delivery make debbie harry on "rapture" sound like krs-one

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

A friend just wrote me this about the song: It just struck me that the rhythm of Madonna's "flow" (if that's what you want to call it) exactly the same as Gerardo's in the first, Spanish part of "Rico Suave."

Also, does Madonna even consider herself American?

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 23:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

The rap bit's the only bit I like. It sounds like she's trying to see how bad a first single from an album she can put out and still get to Number 1 - the bar was fairly low already when she foisted "Music" but this is just something else.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 23:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yanc3y's friend is OTM.

I guess I'm not bored with these production tricks. I liked and still like Music but then again I'm a girl who grew up in the 80s/90s so I have a high Madonna tolerance. Objectively, this could be the beginning of a dud period for Maddy or it could all work out fine. I do think parts of the song are really nice and I just today got it stuck in my head; always a sign...

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 00:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

i liked Madonna when she was Noo Yoik trash tryna act all sofistacated. this tea-guzzling grouse-shooting electropop quintagenarian doesnt go down quite as well...(insert gag here>

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 00:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Madonna could release a 3LP set of armpit farts and I'd probably still buy it. Fortunately, "American Life" is much better than that.

paul cox (paul cox), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 05:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yanc3y.... Debbie Harry's rap on Rapture is just...... bliss. A seminal moment. A seminal record, too.And how far ahead of their game were Blondie? When was Rapture? 1979 - 1980?!?!?!

The only thing I like about this whole American Life project of Madsonna's so far is the album cover (which is fantastic) - at last she seems to have roped in a decent designer. For a lady who apparently collects art and has a ...err.... high appreciation of it.... why are her record covers always so nasty and tatty?

russ t, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

the prob with Harry's rap 'on 'Rapture' wasnt never so much the delivery (cute) as what she said, hysterically bad lyrics!

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 11:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

As compared to

"Breaks to win and breaks to lose, but these here breaks will rock your shoes!"

or

"You're in a place where the nights are hot, where nature's children dance and set a chance."

or

"I said a hip hop, the hippie the hippie to the hip hip hop, a you dont stop, the rock it to the bang bang boogie say up jumped the boogie, to the rhythm of the boogie, the beat."

Blaming old skool for bad lyrics is like blaming AC/DC for making the same song over and over.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 11:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is there anywhere I can dl this from the web?

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 11:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Certainly.

http://www.toto691.co.uk/Madonna_American_Life_192.mp3

Set your standards VERY low and maybe you won't be disappointed.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

come on now Tuomas, none of your examples can compare to the true horror of:

Fab Five Freddie told me everybody's high
DJ's spinnin' are savin' my mind
Flash is fast, Flash is cool
Francois sez fas, Flashe' no do
And you don't stop, sure shot
Go out to the parking lot
And you get in your car and you drive real far
And you drive all night and then you see a light
And it comes right down and lands on the ground
And out comes a man from Mars
And you try to run but he's got a gun
And he shoots you dead and he eats your head
And then you're in the man from Mars
You go out at night, eatin' cars
You eat Cadillacs, Lincolns too
Mercurys and Subarus
And you don't stop, you keep on eatin' cars
Then, when there's no more cars
You go out at night and eat up bars where the people meet
Face to face, dance cheek to cheek
One to one, man to man
Dance toe to toe
Don't move to slow, 'cause the man from Mars
Is through with cars, he's eatin' bars
Yeah, wall to wall, door to door, hall to hall
He's gonna eat 'em all
Rapture, be pure
Take a tour, through the sewer
Don't strain your brain, paint a train
You'll be singin' in the rain
I said don't stop, do punk rock

Well now you see what you wanna be
Just have your party on TV
'Cause the man from Mars won't eat up bars when the TV's on
And now he's gone back up to space
Where he won't have a hassle with the human race
And you hip-hop, and you don't stop
Just blast off, sure shot
'Cause the man from Mars stopped eatin' cars and eatin' bars
And now he only eats guitars, get up!

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

I know I ask this every time but my friend continually informs me and swears blind that Lu Cont is going to be producing some of Madonna's new stuff.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like this. Reminds me of Supertramp.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

The rap on here is better than most of her lyrics.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Are those the original Blondie lyrics? They're fuckin' hilarious! How could blame anyone for such a brilliant wordplay?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Add a "you" there...

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

DJ's spinnin' are savin' my mind

i think this bit is wrong, i'm sure she says 'DJs spinnin I said 'my my'

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

I said don't stop, do punk rock

ahem ahem "do THE punk rock"

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

I love the Rapture lyric.
What a time that must've been in NYC.... Warhol, Harry, MelleMel, Basquiat....
Stevem- I think it's 'my my', too.

russ t, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

"do THE punk rock"

Dance crazes that never quite made it, part 86: PUNK ROCK!

"A one, and a two,
that's how you do,
the PUNK ROCK,
don't you dare to stop!"

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

the 'Rapture' rap is loveable and has great kitsch value but its the ultimate in lyrical naffness for me

and yeh Russ, you had block parties in the Bronx bopping to The Clash and Kraftwerk - sounds amazing

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thanks edward. My standards are very low anyway.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 13:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Rapture" is one of the greatest singles ever.

The link above to the Madonna track doesn't work, and all the p2p sources I've tried have resulted in a loop of what seems like Madonna's voice saying "what the fuck are you trying to do?"

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

It worked for me Sean - maybe it's been taken down :(

(It's not very good but the rap is great!)

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

After 3 listens, the chorus sort of creeps up on you.
Sort of like a deadly fungus.

russ t, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sean I will email it to you if that's yr correct addy.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Still haven't heard it. But how I hate that stringy, wrinkly old crone - I will do my damnedest to make sure I dislike everything she ever releases from this moment forth

j0e (j0e), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Teeny: yes please! Thank you!

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

fyi, anyone who hasn't heard the single yet can stream it from here:

http://www.hmv.com/servlet/HMVApp/Registration.StartUp/createSessionId?ct=pd&sku=352697

it's kinda dire

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

On its way, Sean...

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

oh except yahoo mail bounced it because it was too large. If you're still interested, tell me a better address (at my bust.com addy if you like). sorry for the thread derail, everyone.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sean - do you use filepile. There's a copy up on there - search for 'american life 192'. If you don't then say and I'll email my password details.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

30 seconds in and it's FUCKING FANTASTIC.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, once again Madonna has taken the "Music" template and done something far, far superior with it. The rap section is fantastic, but fortunately the rest of the song is, too. The acoustic guitar break is ULTRA-CLASSIC, and the 303 filter tricks are just great; it's like they recorded most of the song just using Rebirth.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 18:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

JENNY FROM THE BLOCK EAT YOUR HEART OUT, YOU TALENTLESS (prettyprettypretty) COW

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 18:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

it sounds like a bonus round

i hate it

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 18:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

I honestly thought the entire single sounded like a bad joke, and I've liked all of the other recent Madonna singles.

Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 18:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

I fail to see how sounding like a bonus round is a bad thing.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 18:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

on one hearing this is my favourite madonna single ever

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 30 March 2003 12:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

THe Bret Easton Ellis revival began two years ago, in my living room, you fools.

I can't find the Madonna track for download anywhere, I just keep finding fakes. Who te hell does stuff like that? That's a sad life.

I can kind of do that thing she does in that picture, except I never tried with heels, I think I will do that today at the gym. The heels I mean.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 30 March 2003 18:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

This is one of the worst songs I've ever heard in my life.

Evan (Evan), Sunday, 30 March 2003 19:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

''on one hearing this is my favourite madonna single ever''

ha! I bet you haven't even heard the thing.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 30 March 2003 19:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

It kind of is her best single ever.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 30 March 2003 19:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

I am going to have to download it and give it another listen, because I did not get anything at all out of it the first (and only) time I heard it.

Nicole (Nicole), Sunday, 30 March 2003 19:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

someone stole ilm's ears!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 31 March 2003 00:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

I downloaded it and still haven't listened to it, so Yanc3y is totally right.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030401/ap_on_en_mu/war_madonna_video_5

She's pulled the video. Wimp.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Seriously, what a way to throw any pretense to artistic integrity out the window.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

"artistic integrity" is a pretty way of saying "I'm a self-absorbed asshole".

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

The video sounds like the best Madonna video ever, too!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

two months pass...
Did that Focus Group ever get published?

TMFTML (TMFTML), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 17:03 (twenty years ago) link

nine years pass...

Some of those minor/major things work great. That one just sounds like a cassette that was left in the sun.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 04:39 (eleven years ago) link

five years pass...

"In the teaser, Madonna describes Madame X as “a dancer, a professor, a head of state, a housekeeper, an equestrian, a prisoner, a student, a mother, a child, a teacher, a nun, a singer, a saint, a whore,” and “a spy in the house of love.”"

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 14 April 2019 22:30 (five years ago) link

Madame X - she's been all of us

Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 14 April 2019 22:30 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8PtBzdiZ3g

Madame X:

01 Medellín [ft. Maluma]
02 Dark Ballet
03 God Control
04 Future [ft. Quavo]
05 Batuka
06 Killers Who Are Partying
07 Crave [ft. Swae Lee]
08 Crazy
09 Come Alive
10 Faz Gostoso [ft. Anitta]
11 Bitch I’m Loca [ft. Maluma]
12 I Don’t Search I Find
13 I Rise

petey v, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 16:41 (five years ago) link

must say i am intrigued by "killers who are partying"

petey v, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 16:45 (five years ago) link

same but "dark ballet"

single is both trend-hopping and deeply weird, but it's probably the first time i've been more intrigued than indifferent toward a lead madonna single since.... "hung up"? this is no "hung up" but

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 17:10 (five years ago) link

Y'all enjoy. This is v bad.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 17:34 (five years ago) link

it was also produced by mirwais which is extremely weird to me

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 17:35 (five years ago) link

appears that a lot of the album has been produced by mirwais.

mark e, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 18:11 (five years ago) link

Madonna finally relents and works with a prior collaborator and she chooses Mirwais?

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 18:19 (five years ago) link

Didn't she try working with William Orbit again and it didn't work out?

Not really feeling the new single. There's a nice breezy feel to the verses but the chorus feels clumsy and the song is two minutes too long. It's definitely stronger than her last few leads but that really isn't saying much.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link

i mean i'd say the majority of stuff she made with mirwais was good

of course i wish it were stuart price, alas xp

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link

Hung Up is prob my favourite single of the 2000s so that’s a high bar.

This is a bit dull but it’s curious enough to pique interest about the album. I don’t mind Mirwais. “Nobody’s Perfect” remains incredible.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 19:32 (five years ago) link

i said it was no "hung up"! it absolutely isn't, i haven't even decided if i like it lol

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 19:39 (five years ago) link

OK, kids, let's see what's got you hopped up.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:10 (five years ago) link

I'll say her Spanish is pretty decent. That's the best thing I can say about the track.

daavid, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:33 (five years ago) link

^^^ fair reaction

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:37 (five years ago) link

Me and the newly-out lodger were just dancing round the kitchen to this, and we've decided we like it. Extra points for the Usha Uthup reference, too. https://youtu.be/k8f5Itra2Wo

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:39 (five years ago) link

time to dig out that Mirwais album then I guess.
and, to be fair while driving home, when the song came on the radio (Sara Cox R2 : EXCLUSIVE build up etc), it was rather enjoyable ..

mark e, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:56 (five years ago) link

too funny. will never intentionally listen again.

dyl, Thursday, 18 April 2019 02:14 (five years ago) link

I listened to it four times in a row, hoping I could dig anything out of it. I couldn't. How many times is too many times to still give Madonna the benefit of the doubt?

Then I thought, young people don't give one fuck about Madonna. And her older fans just listen to Lady Gaga now instead. She's in an interzone desperately attempting to stay on-trend when she could probably do something else with far more success.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 18 April 2019 04:14 (five years ago) link

And her older fans just listen to Lady Gaga now instead.

i'm not sure this is accurate

dyl, Thursday, 18 April 2019 04:47 (five years ago) link

Me neither; I know an “older” Madonna megafan who cares little for Gaga (despite my recent attempts to get him into Joanne).

That said, I’m not sure how much he cares about “new” Madonna, either...

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 18 April 2019 05:02 (five years ago) link

I'm talking about moms and shit who probably still buy cd's, but a couple a year. Not us (although I now listen to way more Gaga than anything Madonna is making).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 18 April 2019 11:51 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

wtf @ "Dark Ballet"

Jeff W, Saturday, 8 June 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link

oh i guess it makes sense she worked with Mirwais on this because this is just as bizarre as "American Life"

ufo, Saturday, 8 June 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

the album's credits have fewer collaborators since the Stuart Price days. We'll see if it works.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 June 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

ILM has never been more wrong than in the first hundred or so posts to this thread.

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 8 June 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link


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