Andrew W.K.

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the genius sound engineers on snl fucked up again. u could barely hear awk's voice.. i he was fading in and out. he was horrible. what was the deal with snl this week? it went all haywire.

chaki, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

what i don't understand is why it's so impossible for most people around here to get awk's shtick, enjoy it or no...

(cue ned: "oh, i get it, etc. etc. ...)

jess, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

What is his schtick then?

I mean I'm perfectly open to the possibility that I don't get it.

Ronan, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

As long as Starsailor exist, long may Andrew WK party on. The only thing I've heard recently that I liked, except for maybe Shakira.

dave q, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

it's indie noise rock as produced by mutt lange...lightning bolt makes their pyromania. nah, i'm just saying that cuz awk (i actually like this shortening, it makes him sound like the annoying squwak of a newborn baby bird) was on bulb...seriously though, it's just power- pop/pop-metal/whatever. (the elton john-esque piano on most songs should be a big clue.) esp. when you hear the whole album (YES, it all sounds like Party Hard. that's the point...i think), it's so goddamn unrelenting that it becomes, if not art, then certainly a statement of sorts. (even if that statement is music should have ended in 1987. not one i necessarily agree with, but then again i'm not sure we've had a really, really great rock band since then anyway.) he's a doof who falls somewhere between tounge-in-cheek and endearingly earnest. which probably, actually, makes him a throwback to the early 90s rather than the mid-80s, but i really do think he means it, man.

he bigs up max martin and marilyn manson. he's just making shiny, dunderheaded glam metal. the shock and confusion he elicits eludes me.

jess, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

yeah, I knew about the whole Bulb connection, and I guess that actually just befuddled me more. the keyboards! the keyboards! and the more i think about it, the more the Andrew WK guy strikes me as some sort of wannabe-Glenn Danzig.

geeta, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i get the schtick. awk just isnt very good at it! really! watch videos of early van halen and then compare! its no contest.

chaki, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I really hated it until about the 100th time I saw a clip of Party Hard after the Osbournes, you know how MTV plays like 3 seconds of a song after each show? Then I decided that I liked saying "Party hard" over and over again until the words have no meaning.

Ally, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Chaki speaks unto my heart, he does.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Party Hard" is practically a bubble-gum record. It's fun, catchy, and takes precisely 0% effort to "get it". Is it the image everyone objects to? I'm way past embarassment on this one. Of course the whole package is absurd; it's pretty clear to me that's the point. Ok, go on, resist it if you want; it's your loss. Have you heard "New York City"? *sings*
I love... NEW YORK CITY!
Oh yeah!... NEW YORK CITY!

It's exactly as dumb as that sounds, and it's totally awesome. Yes, I did say "totally awesome".

Sean, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Is it the image everyone objects to?

Just the dullness. And to heck with this 'resisting' idea, that makes it seem that liking it is somehow a natural or correct approach. Garbage. I don't resist Mr. WK, I just don't find the results worth a damn and worth the consideration.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah I just think he's totally crap. Really on contrary overdrive with this one I fear.

I quite liked the "YOU.........YOU WORK ALL DAY" part of Party Hard but that's about it. It was oddly compelling.

Ronan, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

GO NED!

Dan Perry, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Thankyouverymuch. We should start an elite strike team against him or something.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Only if that means we get to strike him. Repeatedly. With a hot iron.

Dan Perry, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Andrew WK's record makes me happy and you guys are being so mean it makes me sad.

Sean, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

he bigs up max martin and marilyn manson

THEN THAT MEANS HE SHOULD KNOW BETTER. Like I said over on ILM, if the man appreciates pop, then demonstrate that! Bah!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I still love the album.

Tom, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sean, I don't mean to make you sad. It's just that Andrew WK makes me seethe with an inconsolable rage. It's almost like watching the worst band in your high school's Battle Of The Bands get a record.

Dan Perry, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

why are we cheering ned for his normal shtick?

jess, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Because I'm so sweet and cuddly, and would not hurt a fly.

Your explanation vis-a-vis unrelenting noise that achieves transcendence in repetition certainly makes sense when it comes to the comparison with Lightning Bolt, say. I like that thought, I may take it as my own. ;-) But I like Lightning Bolt and think WK is go-nowhere codswallop. So they may have similar intents, but terribly different results.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i agree that awk is "go nowhere"...becuz i can't figure out where the hell he could go! another album would probably sound exactly like "i get wet"...which would be pointless (yes, even more pointless than making the album in the first place.)

jess, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Er, Ned -- if he's not worth the consideration, why're you considering him? Go-nowhere codswallop, elite strike team, etc.

(I think Andrew WK is funny, though I could only tolerate about 10 seconds of his SNL performance.)

Andrew DK, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Andrew WK is definitely worth placing in imaginary torture scenarios.

Dan Perry, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

There you go being mean again.

Sean, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

why're you considering him?

The $64,000 question. ;-) Mostly it's because of the semi-assumption above I vigorously protest, namely that it is instantly catchy dumb pop/rock. WRONG, at least in my ears. His sin is not attempting his approach, his sin lies in doing so and failing miserably.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I wuv Party Hard. It's just perfect Meatloaf-pop!

Mark C, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I just previewed his album at Aquarius records here in SF (yes, I'm in SF until tomorrow morning.. then it's Davis, Sacramento, Shastas, and ORRREEEGGOOOONNN!!), and I absolutely love it. It's a big huge bag of Cheetos... Cookie Monster As Rock God!

Well, why not?

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

dude, i would PAY to see cookie monster rock out!!! but not andrew wk!

geeta, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

What's going on in Davis?

Kris, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I skimmed through some of the songs on this album at the listening station the other day. I laughed out loud a couple of times because it was one of the most ridiculous things i'd ever heard. (esp. the little robo-voice thing that I think kicks off 'party hard' sweet!!) I then took the headphones off and continued on with my music shopping. I don't see my experience of Andrew WK going much beyond that.

Ron, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i saw him friday. best show i have seen in like 10 years. and the very large, now-yellowing bruise on my left shoulder proves this x 3.

maura, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I laughed out loud a couple of times because it was one of the most ridiculous things i'd ever heard.

Yes; I don't think a record has ever made me laugh so much in my life. It feels so good!

Sean, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah I didn't think about it much but when he commands 'YOU ... YOU WORK ALL DAY' - that's the most compelling part of the song - like some kind of throwback to the idea of 'working class rock', obviously, but also SUCH a fascist command and besides, completely ignoring the out of work, insane underclass that he obviously comes from and which probably nurtured him (the guy is a drug abuser, not a working man!) - and by commanding you to think of yourself as a put- upon working guy, you're immediately like, 'yeah, screw them all! all those bosses, leaning on me ...' it's whiny, really ... you know, 'yeah, fuck you, I'm gonna get high because you hurt my feelings, so I deserve it.' It's the classic case of pre-drug intake - or worse - cognitions, the kitschy rationalisations. I mean, not that it would be better to give some kind of lecture on what you should do instead of taking drugs, ala Public Enemy et al, but to have perfected this 'talking to them on their own level' as an artform, - what kind of accomplishment is this? Except for a kitsch accomplishment, like producing the perfect velvet painting ... I thought about what Chuck Eddy said about Guns and Roses - something to the effect of that people complain about them being dumbshits and thus completely miss out on what's great about them, and that he hopes they (record labels?) keep the dumbshits coming. But the thing about Andrew WK is that he's far too pure to ever appeal except to those who are interested in 'art' - thus he really poses no threat to the masses, unlike NWA or the Beastie Boys who are seemingly answerable for millions of white American teenagers delusions of being put upon ... anyway I have to go.

maryann, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i find it hard to believe anyone identifies with andrew wk. whatever demographic he supposedly appeals to on a non-ironic level has to realize he's a total twerp so everyone can laugh and think i'm smart enough to realize andrew wk music is double digit IQ. it's dumb but i can like it anyway because i'm not a snob and there's nothing wrong with a lil mindless fun = selling point?

bc, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

If it is, that's one of the crappiest selling points I've seen in a while, mostly because of this idea that those who will like it aren't 'snobs.' I'm not saying that's your own conclusion, I should note -- but if it's the company's or WK's conclusion, then they really can go fuck themselves.

It seems that not to like WK is apparently a sign of being anti-pop, being anti-dumb fun, being a snob, being humorless, being too serious, being a poor sport, etc. I find all these assumptions wanting.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i'm convinced it's a diabolical conspiracy. set bar low = everyone feels superior, andrew wk immune to criticism, becomes president!

bc, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hell, it worked for Bush.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm not making any assumptions about people who don't like WK, unless they actually say something like "WK is too dumb for me" in which case I think I can assume away.

You, Ned, don't like Andrew WK because he's unmemorable - this tells me nothing about you except your ears work in v.different ways from mine (which I knew anyway) and that you make a lot of fuss about a property (unmemorableness) that doesn't bother me. In fact it's you who's applying an assumed framework to WK - he is pop therefore he must be catchy. I happen to think he is catchy and pop but more than that I love him for the noises and textures: WK tracks make me think of cross-section pictures of the earth's crust, this vast layer of magma and rock (the guitars) with this tiny pretty layer of trees and grass perfectly balanced on top (the keyboards).

Tom, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

what about the "landfill" layer?

geeta, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i pretty much had the same reaction to hanle y when i first saw Andrew WK.

di, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

That's his voice I suppose geeta.

Tom, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I've been listening to "I Get Wet" most of the day yesterday driving around the Bay Area (where I finally got to meet the notorious Kris Srinivasan, and dropped by the house of a member of a certain band that Mark Sinker really dislikes), and it kinda hit me why I like it..

It's basically a heavy sugary Devo, with a wrestler's voice. And maybe a little Elton John/John Tesh on the piano bits. The whole metal image seems to be a non-clever rue to make Mr. WK to be some sort of rock god, where in fact, I enjoy the music for all the reasons BUT.

Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

But where are the geysers, earthquakes and volcanoes, Tom? Without that, Gaia is sterile and dies. ;-)

he is pop therefore he must be catchy

*scratches chin* Now this makes me wonder...can it be possible to create something intentionally uncatchy but aimed at a pop audience? Nothing to do with Andrew WK now, more thinking about what pop 'should' be.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

friend had free tickets but i declined; afterparty at tiny bar on 2nd ave called "lit"... it's a stupid bar... reason enough for me to hate AWK... apparently "the woman from hole/smashing pumpkins" had her arm around AWK's waist for awhile. anyway friend talks w/guitar player (the one who wears the hawaiian shirt in the video) and dude is nice guy from chicago who can't wait to go on tour and visit someplace farther away than california. I can't imagine what's going rhough their heads; their whole world just blew the fuck up. 1 song. 1 video. that's all it takes. and then it occurred to me, as i am being related all this, that what irks most of us about the strokes isn't that they "sold out" but that they didn't sell out ENOUGH... they didn't do it AWK-style, a media monster of megarock right out of the gate...

celebrity scoop, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

intentionally uncatchy but aimed at a pop audience

slave 4 u

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ya think? *Intentionally* so, now, a Britney lead single from a heavily hyped up new album? Don't quite see it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

a media monster of megarock right out of the gate...

Then maybe the answer is WK is the new Vanilla Ice.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

o I forgot, at the afterparty he was still wearing white shirt/jeans/sneaker combo that he wears in his video and for his concert! like the kid at Burger King who's still got on his baseball duds after the game.. awww.

celebrity scoop, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

when are they gonna release the new edition of andrew wk with different outfits and hair you can style!?

bc, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Bah, State Department have pulled the plug http://www.avclub.com/articles/andrew-wk-seriously-named-us-cultural-ambassador-t,89082/

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

strange things are afoot with the W.K.

del griffith, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

http://peterslarson.com/2012/12/02/andrew-wk-how-he-almost-became-the-us-cultural-ambassador-to-the-middle-east/

In the days since the cancellation, I’ve received inside tips that there was a passionate debate in the State Dept. about my going at the last second. It’s possible that someone outside of the State Dept. who wasn’t aware of the trip initially became incensed that they weren’t informed before. Apparently some of these unknown higher-up officials were on my side and others were deeply offended by the idea of me going.

http://nakeddc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/barack-obama_nobel_prize1.jpg

How do you say Dedéckenbauer, Dedélícia, Dedélíte? (onimo), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

A.W.K trying to break the world record for drumming in a retail store in Times Square, currently on hour 14

frogbs, Thursday, 20 June 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link

what's the previous record for drumming in a retail store?

fit and working again, Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qi3JERmk9E

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Thursday, 20 June 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link

welp

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Thursday, 20 June 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link

My friend texted me yesterday first thing in the morning to note it was the 10th anniversary of when we got AWK autographs.

even the beatles had a coinstar machine in their living room (Crabbits), Thursday, 20 June 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

And now with a new radio show on...

...Glenn Beck's network?

http://www.mediaite.com/online/andrew-w-k-gets-his-own-show-on-glenn-becks-radio-network/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

three years pass...

contenderizer, you're famous!

https://www.stereogum.com/2015589/andrew-wk-steev-mike/franchises/sounding-board/

this article is a wild ride, though it's really long and pontificates a lot. ultimately the conclusion is what I've assumed was true for a while - the entire "AWK conspiracy" is essentially AWK screwing with people

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link

i hate this piece with all my heart

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:05 (five years ago) link

sorry to complain about literally everything this guy writes but it just gets worse and worse

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:07 (five years ago) link

That article made me feel like I was drunk.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link

thanks I hate it

Stab my hinge, get hit (sic), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link

It's pretty funny to hear norms try to tell a post-internet revisionist history of AWK without being in tune with Bulb/Pterodactyls & all the pre-I Get Wet releases and shows.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link

is michael nelson the guy who penned that novel-length strokes longread

imago, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

yes

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link

And replaced MST3K fan favorite Joel iirc

Vinnie, Thursday, 4 October 2018 01:06 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

what the

https://i.imgur.com/SWvN2S0.jpg

frogbs, Friday, 11 January 2019 04:06 (five years ago) link

That's the logical conclusion, no?

Cousin Slappy, Friday, 11 January 2019 04:37 (five years ago) link

Looking like a character from American Psycho is partying.

brain (krakow), Friday, 11 January 2019 08:46 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/SWvN2S0.jpg

WHEN IT'S TIME TO STUDY WE WILL ALWAYS STUDY HARD

v. s. rupaul (unregistered), Friday, 11 January 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link

http://i47.tinypic.com/16h5l08.jpg

is a nice one, although I'm still partial to his look at 88BOADRUM.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 11 January 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Something new to add to the confusion and mythology side of all things AWK...

To everyone asking about these “andrew wk journals”, that was all before my time. I wasn’t even part of it back then. So there’s no way I could have done it. https://t.co/cmIxVPwcep

— ANDREW W.K. (@AndrewWK) October 9, 2020

which links to a reddit post where this pastebin link was posted which contains nine links to images of a diary, supposedly written by "andrew wk" from 1998 onwards:

https://pastebin.com/VBdLVWC7

brain (krakow), Friday, 9 October 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link

Huh, I assumed the revive would be this, which has been doing the rounds.

Andrew W.K. is a Libertarian "Classical Liberal" who believes in American Exceptionalism & a "big fan of Breitbart". He was a regular on Fox News show 'Red Eye' for years w/ his friend Gavin McInnes (Proud Boys) & even had his own radio show on Glenn Beck’s TheBlaze radio network

— Heresy Labs (@heresysquad) October 10, 2018

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 10 October 2020 08:36 (three years ago) link

I hadn't seen any of that before. Most of the people and organisations mentioned I don't really know, but I get that they're unsavoury associations. Is the consensus that there is something to it all?

brain (krakow), Saturday, 10 October 2020 10:49 (three years ago) link

AWK seems to have deleted the tweet that I posted above. I feel less enamoured by the mystery in the cold light of day and guess that the (supposed) 1998 diary is something created to help promote new music coming soon.

brain (krakow), Saturday, 10 October 2020 11:27 (three years ago) link

Honestly, I don't see a lot there beyond "Andrew W K isn't that bright or politically involved" - the only thing that bothers me is the quote about him loving Breitbart, and the source of it is - an article on Breitbart.
There's what seems to be an informed rebuttal here: https://www.reddit.com/r/AndrewWK/comments/9mvw92/andrew_wk_has_long_extensive_ties_to_rightwing/e7i30hz/

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 10 October 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link

Yeah AWK is about as apolitical as it gets

frogbs, Saturday, 10 October 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

yeah, weak tea guilt by association shit. he's about as guilty as Damien from Fucked Up in that case.

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, 10 October 2020 14:01 (three years ago) link

That's all good to read, thanks.

brain (krakow), Saturday, 10 October 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

I feel less enamoured by the mystery in the cold light of day

I love that he still finds it fun to generate intricate layers of confusing backstory and then publish disinformation about the stuff he's put so much effort into.

Thanks for that rebuttal link, AF.

Covidiots from UHF (sic), Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

uhh what

https://www.instagram.com/katdenningsss/

frogbs, Thursday, 6 May 2021 01:45 (two years ago) link

jenny4twnty
The shower drain must be a nightmare

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 6 May 2021 09:56 (two years ago) link

Speak of the... devil?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj8C7hKpBNA

vcrash, Thursday, 6 May 2021 14:56 (two years ago) link

this new album's gonna be pretty heavy huh

frogbs, Thursday, 6 May 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link

Wow this song rules

Incredible album title + cover art combo too

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 May 2021 16:05 (two years ago) link

that track is a snooze im sure his fans from his Glen Beck network show will dig tho

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 6 May 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

I've never been an AWK fan, but the video has a Matthew Barney-ish feel that I'm into. The song's...fine, but nothing without the visuals.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 6 May 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link

The "Babalon" video is quite something as well.

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 May 2021 16:53 (two years ago) link

OK, just watched "Babalon" and that is legitimately great (song and video). If he'd sounded like this all along I'd have been a fan 20 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI8y36733ag

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link

apparently an entire journal of his from 1998-2000 leaked online

https://awkshare.com/files/7d756f81-e197-4711-9101-fd042ca3d17b

feels wrong to be reading this but it's pretty fascinating, hundreds of pages not only detailing the entire Andrew WK persona but also a man at war with himself. seems to explore the whole "use actors for the first few years/make it seem like everyone else is doing the work" idea. at some point he lays out his first 9 albums, #5 being "The Devil's on Your Side" and #6 being "The Party Gods"

obviously a good chance this was all made in the last couple of months but still, pretty crazy shit here

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

"i'm in heaven" is so good

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link

xp "leaked"

Deicide at Chuck E. Cheese (PBKR), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 00:20 (two years ago) link


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