eugenics

Depends upon how we concieve of "Utopia" and "social engineering," Dave -- I mean, one could theoretically support socially steering a nation toward an ideal that involved the basic rights and liberties of all people, including "less-than-ideal" ones, etc. The trick, in fact, is to let go of the assumption that any world with certain types of people in it is automatically less-than-Utopian.

The argument becomes semantic beyond that point, but I imagine you see what I mean. And yes, it's problematic when social engineering enters the biological realm; it really is an ideal that works only in limited economic senses.

Yea, a utopia would not be diverse in any way. It would be sterile and constant, no questions. I just can't ever see it working.

is there any recommended reading about the sordid history of Eugenics around the globe, and religion's role in rebelling against the idea of eugenics (i.e. forced sterilizations) and the prevailing scientific consensus of the time?

I've been suggested this as a video from an American perspective, but I know it stretched well beyond our borders: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0RIEQ8M91S92YINO5UQDYSFH9W/ref=share_ios_movie

this is a topic a friend and I got on today and I recognized my need to brush up on this area of human history.

A weird nexus between 'progressives' trying to create a better world mixing with out-&-out racists/fascists

I'm afraid it's not just history but probably has a real future, i.e. in the realm of designer babies, etc.

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