I Remeber When President Bush Said His Most Influential Political Philosopher is Jesus Christ...

Again with the piss in bottles.

I think what really happened was that Bush was so flummoxed when the interviewer asked him a real tough question like who his favourite philosopher was that he exclaimed "Jesus Christ!"

do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Yeah, i see that in Dubya's every action. Definitely.

why the hell doesnt he act like it then (ie swords into plowshares)

that's what i want to know. Dubya keeps paying lip service to Jesus as the guy who got him off the bottle, but it's quite clear that Jesus loved his wine, and certainly didn't smirk when having people killed.

This administration has unleashed the religious zealots upon us all, as they feel free to act on every looney idea that they can attribute to being remotely "Biblical". One of my friends went to claim disability on social security yesterday, and one of the questions that they pitched at him is whether he was baptized before the age of five. How is that relevant?

Forbes had said Locke was his fave philosopher right before Dubya said that, and afterwards, everyone was just stumbling on top of each other to get on the Jesus bandwagon... a bunch of rich men who love war.

That debate neatly presented the case for not voting at all in one tidy little package...after Bush sez "Jesus," suddenly nobody has any integrity! Everybody just says "oh, Christ of course" because they'd rather say that (and be lying) than alienate the Christian constituency! It was pathetic, American politics generally are pathetic, when the hell will there be a new Morbid Angel album

Matthew 10:34

(Anthony E, where are you?)

Anybody who says JC was 'a good philosopher' gives away at that moment, by that statement, that they know diddly-squat about him.

Either he was what he claimed himself to be, ie the son of God and the Lord and saviour of the human race, or he was a deluded egomaniac, or he was the greatest charlatan ever.

If he is Lord, as GWB sems to assert, he is more than a convenient expert opinion you call for when it suits you. He jumps, you say how high. Not the reverse, which George seems to assume when he's calling in favors from God in the same smug way all right-wing American (and other nationality) demagogues have ever since Constantine.

>Either he was what he claimed himself to be, ie the son of God and the Lord and saviour of the human race, or he was a deluded
>egomaniac, or he was the greatest charlatan ever.

Or people claimed he said things he didn't really say. Which is the most likely answer.

Hmm, let’s see— JC advocated disavowing wealth, possessions and profit. Sounds like a Marxist to me.

he also wasn't as against taxes (i.e. "render unto Caesar...") as our prez.

Isn't Jesus kind of a chimera?

I've never been interested in what the "real Jesus" said or did because it's virtually impossible to divine and anyway the plenitude of Christian thought and deed t/o history sort of trumps that anyhow.

Jesus is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma wearing a toga.

He said "turn the other cheek" but also that he came to the world to "turn brother against brother." Christian scripture is so full weirdly contradictory statements, it's no wonder that so many idiots throughout history have distorted it to serve an agenda (from Constantine to Falwell).