Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

not loading - the Matt/Will/Virgil talk about Starship Troopers

Matt's dressed like an adult.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nojrpd2WL30

oh sick, thanks for sharing - will watch asap

Virgil snuck in a good unremarked-upon line in the tabletop ep: “I’ll be back in two gifs,” with a hard g.

Amber solidifies her place as the crew's true Berniebro

https://thebaffler.com/all-tomorrows-parties/its-bernie-bitch-frost

warren's pitch of "i'm the good parts of bernie + hillary" is going to drive some people insane

yeah she should take that off her bumper stickers

Lmao: And what we moved onto was Bernie—our indefatigable, unwavering, incorruptible Bernie! And we very nearly won, despite despicable sabotage from the DNC.

Debate scheduling

No no, it's even better. That sentence includes a link to the Donna Brazile article. Looooooool.

Ya focusing on the dnc's ultimately rather trivial machinations too much absolves all the ordinary schmucks who figured hilary clinton wd be a good presidential candidate lol

she should stick to the advice column tbh

Yeah I'm very much team Bernie as is known but also very much never bought into the "sabotage" narrative. It's not really shocking that an upstart didn't have the backing of party insiders. I think in teh US we don't even really have a good concept of what a political party is in most democracies -- the Democratic party is WAY more up for grabs than most parties.

Does anyone know if Amber A’Lee Frost is on Twitter ?

— John Cusack (@johncusack) January 16, 2019

john trynna slide into those dms

every time i look at my podcast app and consider listening to chapo the newest episode description is too unappealing for me to bother. last 3 times I've looked it's been an episode discussing aquaman, christmas episode/one of their dumb radio play things, talking about this bernie article with amber.

the xmas ep surprised me by being actually funny but they need to stop doing those interminable "tabletop" eps

counterpoint: the latest tabletop two-parter was good not bad, actually, and i say that as someone who couldn’t sit through the previous ones

i don't know who to believe here

Counter-counterpoint: the latest one was 2x2.5 hours long and fuck that shit

what else am i gonna fill my time with on this interminable march to the grave

I'm definitely noticing a widespread creep lately in podcast length. Lots of folks bumping up against or even crossing the two-hour mark. personally I think one hour should be the cutoff. podcasts that exceed that almost always involve a whole lot of shambling, unfocused bullshit. I know the Chapo guys are doing something aesthetically different from him, but Chris Hayes' podcast never exceeds an hour and he digs in to some pretty cpmplicated shit (e.g. this week's episode on trade).

Mine are 44 mins on average and I plan to keep it that way

what's your podcast? i know i've seen you mention it on here before but I can't recall the name

I love the tabletop episodes

hacks.fm xp

i like a long podcast myself

try Dan Carlin

i don't like dan carlin because my BA is in history and i just object to half of the things he says

because it's for a layman's audience (or he is just lazy) and he simplifies to an absurd degree

heard an episode where he was talking about the frankfurt school and steam was coming out my ears

i like a long, rambling podcast because i almost always listen to them in the background or when i'm trying to fall asleep. Chapo & Red Scare are great for naps ime

ha ha I just meant that Carlin always drops 4 hour long podcasts

he's got the length but perhaps not the width

Dan Carlin is the worst

I’m finishing up an episode on the mechanics of conspiracy theory that’s just under two hours. I could chop it in half but my release schedule is already highly artitrary so I’m thinking of just posting it whole to let folks enjoy it for a while.

I think this merits a "holy shit"

Update: The red shirt-clad guy is Phil Dershowitz, a biophysics PhD student at Iowa State and a cousin of Alan Dershowitz's. He's a socialist fan of @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE and @PplPolicyProj, and he'll vote for the furthest left candidate in the field. https://t.co/kPEybm0MGZ

— Daniel Marans (@danielmarans) January 19, 2019

also, lol @ The Baffler for having to retract Amber's pro-Bernie tract for being too explicitly partisan

Did they really?? Wow

Must be an interesting editorial process they have over there

Weirder and worse to have published it in the first place probably

godDAMN son

Have p much stopped any regular listening, should probably cancel the patreon at this point. Virgil is too earnest and wonky and makes it feel only a hair away from being just any old political podcast, and the other guys’ schtick feels a bit spent. Also hearing them act dumbfounded by Trump is not rendered more interesting by peppering it with Adam Curtis terms.

Wait, waht, why would the Baffler feel the need to retract what was a pretty boilerplate left wing op-ed?

in the tank for #kucinich2020 iirc

I've been enjoying it more as a lefty news digest than anything else, though I've realized I listen for Matt's takes far more than anyone else's. He ended up completely otm on the cov cath shithead with the "shaming era is over" bit

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this looks promising

Sean KB recorded an ep with fellow history nerd, Matt Christman of The Chapo Trap House, who is similarly tyrannized by the weight of dead generations.

The question: Why, of all advanced capitalist countries, is the United States unique in its historical failure to form a bone-fide Labour/Socialist party organically tied to the union movement as an institutionalized political expression of working class interests? The answers may surprise you.

https://theantifada.fans.fm/listen/54v

Also, lol at this totally shocking and unexpected reprint (with one key change)

https://jacobinmag.com/2019/01/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-democratic-primary-baffler-amber-frost

TOO HOTT FOR THE BAFF