It’s actually difficult to tell, for me at least, when you are clicking to start watching or when you are clicking to check availability and select your library. For instance, I just clicked through to Fists in the Pocket which I now am presumably watching but I thought I was only checking availability.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link
I am also presumably watching the remake of Marius and Fanny for the same reason. Although it doesn’t show any credits being used up for these two, perhaps there is a grace period of a few seconds.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link
Here’s another thing. Website will tell you that the film you started watching Expires in 2 days, whereas iPhone app does not. Wonder if it gives you in units of hours when it gets under one day, betting no, but who knows.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link
In other words, vis-à-vis the clicking, it only takes one click to start watching on the iPhone, whereas it seems to take several on the website.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 19:00 (five years ago) link
The last movie I watched on Kanopy was The Great Silence (Corbucci, 1968), which was pretty sweet.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link
That one's great! So grim.
― Nhex, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link
It's insane - you have to click through to the movie, past even confirming which subscription you're using (which makes it seem like you'd be using one of your credits, but that doesn't happen til you actually click on the video window to play) and THEN there's an add-to-list button.
maybe you guys are losing part of the interface to an ad blocker or something? i have been running safari on osx with no ad blocker for a while, just the built-in anti-tracking stuff, and i get an overlay with watch now / add to watchlist buttons (in the space where the title is) when i mouse over the art for a title in the front-page discovery interface.
in search results there's no equivalent (each item is less interactive in that way) but if you clock through to the result's page the add button is right there under the controller.
maybe having more than one subscription adds a complication that they didn't really integrate into their initial design scheme.
― j., Thursday, 27 December 2018 01:16 (five years ago) link
Okay, you are correct. Once it feels comfortable that it knows which library I am using, I can see the button + My List.
Also, now it says Expires in 23 hrs.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 27 December 2018 03:52 (five years ago) link
Ray, S. (Director). (1955). Pather Panchali [Video file]. Janus Films (The Criterion Collection). Retrieved December 26, 2018, from Kanopy.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 27 December 2018 03:57 (five years ago) link
Now playing with the Transcript feature, which is actually pretty nice.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 27 December 2018 04:00 (five years ago) link
awww, thanks, JRatB! I've been around since 2005 or 2006 but not on all the threads.multi-subscription or ad-blocking issues both seem plausible.... oh well. guess I'll just do the browsing from android.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 27 December 2018 04:50 (five years ago) link
Here’s another glitch, which this time I’m seeing in the iPhone app. Sometimes it will just lose my Continue Watching list and My Watchlist will come up asTHE GENERALTHE GREAT DICTATORMODERN TIMESKEDI
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 27 December 2018 05:35 (five years ago) link
But if I switch libraries, it gets fixed. It’s like there are some buggy servers out there with same bad databases.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 27 December 2018 05:38 (five years ago) link
Okay, was fixed for a while, now back to the state where I have to choose a library again. I think I have thoroughly limned this phenomenon for now.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 December 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link
forgot these were ones i watched on there:
HOT SUMMER NIGHTS: hot summer trash! feels like something chalamet filmed two years earlier and which was shelved because it wasn't very good, and was now getting pushed out cause he had the buzz. definitely not the fun coming-of-age drug-dealers-in-over-their-head movie it suggests, and all the lust-for-the-crush-object stuff feels just like a straight shitty 80s take rather than some kind of retro commentary on those 80s tropes. soundtrack is also very chronologically confused.
THE LITTLE HOURS: can't tell if this was bad or if we just weren't in the mood for what it was doing. raunchy medieval nun comedy where the gag is, medieval nuns are raunchy. there are a couple of big, funny bits but then there are more serious emotional things that wander their way through and leave no impact. feels like a funny sketch that didn't need to be a full movie but i could imagine it being funny if you were in the mood for it.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Monday, 31 December 2018 16:48 (five years ago) link
lol nuns
― j., Monday, 31 December 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
Watching a bit of Pabst, G. (Director). (1929). Diary Of A Lost Girl [Video file]. Kino Lorber Edu. Retrieved December 31, 2018, from Kanopy.before my credits reset.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 January 2019 03:25 (five years ago) link
Hm. There is a character named Meta in this. The only other such film character I am familiar with is in Out of the Past.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 January 2019 03:35 (five years ago) link
Of which I missed the 9PM showing at Lincoln Center this evening, I guess.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 January 2019 03:41 (five years ago) link
signing up for this
― Οὖτις, Friday, 11 January 2019 17:31 (five years ago) link
P great Tropicalia doc, compiled almost entirely from contemporaneous sources, it looks like
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 12 January 2019 19:22 (five years ago) link
Been meaning to watch that one.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:00 (five years ago) link
Looks like I will finally get to see Ace in the Hole
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 13 January 2019 00:34 (five years ago) link
Cool.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 January 2019 00:49 (five years ago) link
anyone know a way around the library sign-in? i'm not a member of one that has a subscription :|
― cheese canopy (map), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link
oh hold up my old university login worked. YAYYYYYY
― cheese canopy (map), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 02:39 (four years ago) link
yes! libraries are literally in the business of giving you access, I love that about them
― Dan S, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link
Really going to rep for Astra Taylor’s “What Is Democracy?”, for the bits with Silvia Federici, Cornell West, and Angela Davis on top of everything else
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 4 April 2019 00:33 (four years ago) link
Not two minutes ago I learned Kanopy pulled Girlhood as my students were writing papers about it (comparing it to The Rules of the Game no less).
Ugh.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 April 2019 01:08 (four years ago) link
I have never really understood the business reasons for why films come and go on streaming services
― Dan S, Thursday, 4 April 2019 01:35 (four years ago) link
the streamer wants to pay less and the film rights owner wants to get more?
― Nhex, Thursday, 4 April 2019 04:07 (four years ago) link
I have 183 films in my Kanopy queue, which at a 5-per-month limit even for two-minute-long shorts, would take three years to watch. If rights periods lapse, that just makes picking something easier.
― blokes you can't rust (sic), Thursday, 4 April 2019 04:54 (four years ago) link
I was pretty sure the third of Satyajit Ray's Apu trilogy was available a year ago. when I went to watch it it was gone. The streamers vs film rights owners thing makes sense, but I didn't really think about it applying to a 60-year old film. I guess there's no reason why it shouldn't
I live just a few blocks from where they are located, I should stop in to chat, it would be interesting to know more about them
― Dan S, Thursday, 4 April 2019 09:22 (four years ago) link
http://kanopy.com/goethe
^ german movies regardless of your library courtesy of the goethe institute
― j., Monday, 8 April 2019 00:49 (four years ago) link
cool!
― Nhex, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link
Maren Ade's The Forest for the Trees looks like one to watch.
― jmm, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
I really liked Forest for the Trees
― Dan S, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link
Oooh, thanks for the tip, I adored Toni Erdmann and would love to check out her earlier films. They're short, too!
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link
I watched it last night and really enjoyed it. She has a way of making me laugh at the most painful moments.
― jmm, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link
The hidden costs of Kanopy:
Recently, an increasing number of scholars have become aware of a simple fact about the service: university and college libraries do not pay a flat fee like individuals might for Netflix, Hulu, or the (now defunct) FilmStruck. Instead, Kanopy’s platform drives “patron-driven acquisition” in which three viewings (defined as 30 seconds or more of a title) trigger a library license fee per title. (The figures I’ve seen are $150 for a year, $350 for a 3-year license, though the price might vary or change over time.)
Those fees can add up quickly, and some libraries have felt a strain on their budgets. For instance, Stanford University called Kanopy’s cost “no longer sustainable” as they announced their switch from an open-platform version to a limited-access, request-only version (the only way libraries can turn off the license fee trigger of patron-driven acquisition). However, these issues do not affect public libraries, which pay Kanopy per view (current fee of $2), similar to a transaction video on demand (TVOD) service like iTunes. Still, patrons do their local public library’s budget no favors by streaming the “free” Kanopy titles, even if those libraries presumably factor in the streaming costs as part of their mission....
Ultimately, the decision around Kanopy or other streaming websites lies with the libraries. But it might be wise for film scholars housed at higher-education institutions to be aware of the pricing constraints that streaming services place on their university libraries’ overall acquisitions. I do not intend to paint Kanopy as the bad guy in the story of streaming access – the company has brought an innovation to an underserved marketplace, added convenience, and expanded the audience for many films – but as an educator, film scholar, and general cinephile, I am particularly sensitive to the imperative to support physical media and independent distributors, and remain committed to searching out streaming alternatives featuring independent content, even for my personal use....
https://filmquarterly.org/2019/05/03/kanopy-not-just-like-netflix-and-not-free/
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 May 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link
unsurprising but informative, thanks!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 6 May 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
yeah we've got providers like Criterion shut down on Kanopy and requests have to be evaluated for educational value
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 6 May 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link
I really do hate streaming shit on my computer and vastly prefer physical media, but what's an educator to do? I'm teaching my film course face-to-face in June for the first time and might rewrite the syllabus so as to use films in my or the library's physical collection.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link
my school / system makes available a media-serving service, looks like youtube or other video sites, i used it to host ahem borrowed copies of films on my syllabus so that i could have students watch them via the usual lms. outside-classtime viewings were essential, and i doubt i could have gotten much compliance any other way.
coincidentally half my films are CC films hosted on kanopy, but that doesn't help with the others.
― j., Monday, 6 May 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link
Kanopy will be discontinued at NYPL effective July 1 pic.twitter.com/ykGjer0tQj— Screen Slate (@ScreenSlate) June 24, 2019
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 24 June 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link
uh oh
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 June 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
what a shame; hopefully kanopy will be able to survive. the massive cost of subscription deals is obvs a problem for all libraries but astonished that the nypl don't feel the cost is sustainable. currently have access through a uk institution, which was already limited compared to the US offering and has now switched from general access to a system where you have to ask the library to get access to individual material.
― devvvine, Monday, 24 June 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
ideal result would be that this prompts kanopy to work out a business model far more affordable/sustainable for public libraries, but we'll see
― devvvine, Monday, 24 June 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link
once i read that my library might have to pay $2 per view i was definitely less enthusiastic about this
― Nhex, Monday, 24 June 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link
yeah i'm very bummed abt the NYPL/BPL cuts. guess i'll try n do some very focused viewing this week. ordering DVDs in to your local branch remains like 90% reliable if you can deal with the wait times, tho obv they don't have everything.
― Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Monday, 24 June 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link
Are public libraries abandoning Kanopy en masse? I just figured out how to access it through Hennepin County Libraries and it's expiring today; I see that New York Public Libraries are ending their license, too, citing rising costs.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 31 July 2020 00:31 (three years ago) link
sf library has been expanding it, I hope it doesn't end
― Dan S, Friday, 31 July 2020 00:34 (three years ago) link
nypl dropped it ages ago tho.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 31 July 2020 00:37 (three years ago) link
My mistake — the article on NYPL dropping it was from late June 2019; I didn't look at the year.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 31 July 2020 00:40 (three years ago) link
I found out about the Hennepin access about a month before it went away, tried to make the most of it. So much stuff I'd been trying to see for ages (and so much that went still unwatched). From fave to slightly less fave:
Tongues UntiedBlue (Jarman) (audio was pretty bad, but was able to "sync" it with a bootleg youtube version)The Harder They ComeGanja & HessBorn in FlamesThe BigamistWild StyleSidewalk StoriesYeelenA Bucket of BloodIllusions (Julie Dash short)The Law (Ouédraogo)Don't Think I've Forgotten: Cambodia's Lost Rock & RollThe Queen of Spades (Dickinson)Tomboy (Sciamma)Wend KuuniKnife+Heart
― geoffreyess, Saturday, 8 August 2020 04:17 (three years ago) link
I just saw that Kanopy now has Sátántangó. so fantastic!
― Dan S, Saturday, 8 August 2020 04:22 (three years ago) link
I've been really loving trawling through all of the Frederick Wiseman documentaries
― Dan S, Saturday, 8 August 2020 04:25 (three years ago) link
also see they have In Fabric, haven't watched it yet
― Dan S, Saturday, 8 August 2020 04:26 (three years ago) link
yeah, that just missed the cut during my final day spree!
― geoffreyess, Saturday, 8 August 2020 04:29 (three years ago) link
I hope that Kanopy doesn't go away for me
― Dan S, Saturday, 8 August 2020 04:39 (three years ago) link
My city library talked about adding it but never did, the cost is prohibitive.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 8 August 2020 04:54 (three years ago) link
> Blue (Jarman)
I remember when this was on British TV and the TV station proudly announced that they were showing the widescreen version...
― koogs, Saturday, 8 August 2020 06:43 (three years ago) link
kind of weird and annoying when justwatch shows something as only streaming on kanopy.
― Capital Radio Sweetheart (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 October 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link
how so?
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Friday, 28 October 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link
Because most libraries dropped it long ago, at least of the ones that I have access to.
― Capital Radio Sweetheart (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link
Still have it through Montgomery County, MD libraries.
― Chris L, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link
Lucky you.
― Capital Radio Sweetheart (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 October 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link
Complain to your local town board! It's a wonderful resource.
― Nhex, Friday, 28 October 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link
... whose business model turns out to be way too expensive for all the libraries who've terminated the relationship, sadly
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 28 October 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link
Los Angeles County Library system still works with Kanopy. I think I'm watching more there than any other streaming service.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 28 October 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link
SF Library still has it too, and I've been working my way through Wiseman's films (so far 24/44). Most recently watched Rainer Sarnet's November
― Dan S, Friday, 28 October 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link
Atlanta/Fulton Co library system still offers it too. God, I'd pitch a fit if they ever dropped it.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 29 October 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link
I've been working my way through Wiseman's films (so far 24/44)
Probably seen 15 scattershot, but I wish I were disciplined enough to follow through on something like that.
― clemenza, Saturday, 29 October 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link
Our Wiseman count is 39 rn.Big recommendation for The Experimental City - newish doc from the director of Pruitt-Igoe Myth and the Jandek doc
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 29 October 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link
watched Andrzej Wajda's Ashes and Diamonds today, it's really interesting
― Dan S, Saturday, 29 October 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link
the film was made in 1958 but takes place in 1945. Zbigniew Cybulski’s role as Maciek Chełmicki seems more modern than a character from 1945, in a good way.
Cybulski has been compared to James Dean. I think the film is another example of historical movie-making reflecting the era in which it was made
― Dan S, Sunday, 30 October 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link
that's one of a trilogy with canal and a generation. i need to watch them again.
Polanski is in one of them, another has a tiny tank...
― koogs, Sunday, 30 October 2022 11:13 (one year ago) link
No streaming service has LOVERS OF THE ARCTIC CIRCLE...except Kanopy :(
― Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 December 2022 04:06 (one year ago) link
Wonder what Projectr is about? Looks like docs, mostly.
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 June 2023 11:59 (nine months ago) link
Oh, fiction films too. Just got in with my library card.
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 June 2023 13:02 (nine months ago) link
Some good stuff. JustWatch doesn't even know about it.
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 June 2023 13:07 (nine months ago) link
Been around for three years, looks like: https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/grasshopper-film-streaming-virtual-cinema-platform-projectr-1202238474/
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:08 (nine months ago) link
Turns out one of my library cards still gets me into Kanopy, seems to have a limited but still okay selection.
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:44 (nine months ago) link