if you don't like the Perlman/GdT films I can see this being better, I guess, but yr crazy
― louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, December 19, 2018
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 23:48 (eleven months ago) link
btw I’m not blind - that is some sardo numspa-lookin CGI demon.still better than GDT tho.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 20 December 2018 04:45 (eleven months ago) link
what makes Hellboy interesting imho is the way Mignola uses cosmic horror as a framework for his interest in folklore, and what gives it oomph is Hellboy's struggle to find out if he can be who he wants to be instead of who he's fated to be.
I thought this was literally what the first movie was about?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 December 2018 13:04 (eleven months ago) link
I liked the GdT movies, and thought Perlman was pretty good. I liked what I've read of the comics. I'll probably like this, too.
However, the feel of Mignola's art, which is about half the appeal of Hellboy for me, just can't be adequately translated to live action, IMO, unless you're going to go for some Sin City-esque hyperstylization. Has anyone seen any of the animated Hellboy stuff/is it good?
― days of being riled (zchyrs), Thursday, 20 December 2018 15:08 (eleven months ago) link
yes/not really? I mean, I literally forgot it existed and that I had seen it until this thread popped back up again yesterday
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Thursday, 20 December 2018 15:47 (eleven months ago) link
"Storm of Swords" is fine, haven't kept tabs on any other animated HB films.
I complained about this when the first movie came out that I didn't like GDT's decision to make HB and Abe hide their existences from the outside world. Having common folk talk to HB like NBD is a great little touch in the comics.
― Siouxie Sioux Vide (Leee), Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:02 (eleven months ago) link
lol i literally contradicted myself in the other Hellboy thread. I rewatched both recently though and the very particular del Toro auteurism was more impressive on these viewings. the first trailer of this new one did look cool but the last one or two were troublesome. the funny lines didn't land and the direction looked very boilerplate. The Hellboy universe goes a long way with its inherent creativity, maybe there'd be some appeal there. but idk.
― omar little, Friday, 12 April 2019 18:02 (seven months ago) link
so much for my high hopes... by all accounts this one’s a fright pig. feel bad for Harbour and for Mignola, whose work deserves better
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 13 April 2019 02:49 (seven months ago) link
Such a shame. I really like a bunch of Marshall's B grade horror/historical films: "Dog Soldiers", "Centurion", "The Descent" - and was hoping he'd stay away from the cutesy GDT-isms and get at that sweet Mignola creepiness. Seems this is just a Z grade mimic'ing of the Del Toro stuff.
― Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 13 April 2019 14:30 (seven months ago) link
so I ended up seeing this after all. it’s overstuffed and undercooked but really not half as bad as golden army and much closer in spirit to the books, which remain unassailable.a less corny soundtrack and maybe pulling two or three cheesy fight scenes would have helped a lot.they tried to do way too much and presumably won’t get a second swing, but god bless ‘em for trying. McShane’s as wasted as he is in American Gods but Harbour’s a gem throughout.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 14 April 2019 04:53 (seven months ago) link
The previews made it seem a bit Guy Richie Does Hellboy, which seems v. unlike the comic
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 14 April 2019 11:31 (seven months ago) link
just to be clear, this is not a good movie. and there are def bits of that, though if anything more Matthew Vaughn than Guy Ritchie. i mean, there are bits of everything. you could cut a trailer that made this thing look like Attack the Block. my take is just, huh, it's not as bad as I expected.
the fatal flaw is that the producers think bc HELLBOY is a comic book, Hellboy has to be a superhero. i'd hoped this one would steer away from the CGI action crap and toward the horror/pulp/melancholy/weird tale elements but aside from one or two shots, nope.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 14 April 2019 14:42 (seven months ago) link
I remember at the very least The Golden Army (which I only saw that once, back when) looked gorgeous. From its trailers this one looks like a CGI public toilet.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 April 2019 14:48 (seven months ago) link
an overhaul of the soundtrack alone would make this 50% better
― gbx, Sunday, 14 April 2019 15:05 (seven months ago) link
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 14 April 2019 22:28 (seven months ago) link
Yeah wasn't great was it. & it seems to want to be the first of several. Seemed like a lot of lines were off rhythm or something. Wonder how many people stayed for the post credits scenes.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:00 (seven months ago) link