Can you capture what you like about it?
― djh, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:45 (nine months ago) link
idk all of their records are fucking good for different reasons, this one’s like what if the last splash lineup made something as deep and mysterious as pod, the songs are pretty much all simultaneously full of hooks and open-ended and strange
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:50 (nine months ago) link
idk all their albums are open-ended and strange and full of hooks. It's impossible for me to explain what separates this from that one.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:55 (nine months ago) link
I realise I have only said the circumstances in which I heard it and the vague idea that "listening to the Breeders in 2018 seems odd". "Open ended and strange" is part of it: certainly I couldn't really say what many of the less obvious songs are about, even when they resonate with me somehow. Like, I love "All Nerve" and the first half always reminds me of someone specific and the second half doesn't.
― djh, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:59 (nine months ago) link
I love this album and it's one of my favorites of the year, easily. I'm bummed that it didn't appear on ANY end of year lists, as far I can tell.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 23:26 (nine months ago) link
It's turned up on a few lists for sure. The 2018 lists thread may have some of them...
― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 23:28 (nine months ago) link
a quick search turned up: Mojo and Uncut
― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 23:32 (nine months ago) link
Heard a little of this for the first time this morning, and it does sound good.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 December 2018 15:37 (nine months ago) link
"listening to the Breeders in 2018 seems odd"
Part of their charm beyond the music is that for a long-running rock band, their history doesn't follow the typical rock band arc in any way. Other than heroin problems. It's as disjointed and compellingly odd as Deal's writing.
― eva logorrhea (bendy), Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:10 (nine months ago) link
I don't think there's any "comeback" record that made me as happy as this one did
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:17 (nine months ago) link
They're all comeback records, kinda!
― eva logorrhea (bendy), Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:23 (nine months ago) link
It is my understanding that these songs - at least I think most are - are about Kims experiences dealing with her mothers Dementia. I think she has been looking after her for a while.
― Hinklepicker, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:04 (nine months ago) link
I've heard that said before. I think you could play the album loads and not reach that conclusion (though it does seem likely given what we know).
― djh, Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:16 (eight months ago) link
I realised I've never heard the Josephine Wiggs Experience album. New song is very pretty, reminds me a lot of Hans-Joachim Roedelius https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_NQSuxIQhk
― willem, Thursday, 21 March 2019 13:26 (six months ago) link
that is really an alternate dreamy universe compared to the breeders directly into the face approach. a little on the cutesy/mellifluous side of things.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:55 (six months ago) link
cutesy/mellifuous covers most of her 90s stuff - with Ladies Who Lunch and Dusty Trails at either end. cool to see that Jon Mattock is at least involved with this - Honey Tongues and The Josephine Wiggs Experience were both duos of the two of them.
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Thursday, 21 March 2019 18:50 (six months ago) link
has there ever been a more iconic but awkward fit than the breeders and 4ad/vaughan oliver aesthetics?
― linee, Monday, 8 April 2019 09:36 (five months ago) link
The worst was the Last Splash anniversary box set with awful new artwork.
Title TK's cover is fairly blah.
I appreciate that the artwork isn't too easy, but once the novelty faded i haven't been fond of how text/font heavy 4ad's artwork tends to be.
― Cow_Art, Monday, 8 April 2019 10:48 (five months ago) link
the whole 4ad thing is all very soft-focus, ethereal, sophisticated and british. lots of text and different typefaces like you say whereas i see the band and their music as being very dry, american, suburban and working class or something? even something vaguely contemporaneous like lush worked better with it as they were at least british and their aesthetic sound-lineage from things like the cocteau twins; the obvious analogue to the soft-focus aspect of the 4ad cover style.
i dunno, all those recent self-released kim deal singles have these really "designed", layered image-heavy assemblages on the covers too, so she clearly just likes that stuff and wasn't just stuck with the 4ad house style. just seems
in some ways it kind of works to differentiate them from their time. if all of their covers were standard '90s sebadoh/pavement/gbv-ish collages or that kind of naive anti-photo thing with some scrawled text on it they would blend in more maybe? the presentation being slightly at odds with the content has an interesting way of gilding it or framing it differently.
― linee, Monday, 8 April 2019 21:31 (five months ago) link
Good summer for this record
― surm, Saturday, 22 June 2019 15:26 (two months ago) link
I'm in the mood for them to chuck out another album fairly speedily. Fucking love "All Nerve".
― djh, Sunday, 23 June 2019 19:10 (two months ago) link
I played it yesterday!
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 June 2019 20:02 (two months ago) link
xxp This band has a remarkably ugly set of album covers, IMO
― Consider the coconut (morrisp), Sunday, 23 June 2019 20:27 (two months ago) link
The covers don’t suit the band’s sound for sure.
― bendy, Monday, 24 June 2019 02:57 (two months ago) link
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 24 June 2019 03:01 (two months ago) link
except in font/layout/design, definitely fits with the savagely precise music IMO
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Monday, 24 June 2019 03:11 (two months ago) link