My view is they need someone who meets the three key principles of that football club - the promotion of youth, entertaining football and to win football matches.
this is why gary neville should be director of football. "to win football matches" is a key principle for any successful team!
― FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link
Mourinho won’t be sacked any time soonhttps://t.co/IpzEiGNnbu— Miguel Delaney (@MiguelDelaney) December 17, 2018
United will only sack Mourinho when CL next season impossible, and all logic suggests PSG will hasten that. But logic doesn’t always dictate in the CL? What it... no?Can Jose use it to save so much?https://t.co/aelpfI7I98— Miguel Delaney (@MiguelDelaney) December 17, 2018
― ogmor, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link
What it...no?
― Number None, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 13:38 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvmytj56Tck
― FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 13:39 (five years ago) link
i think kane is similar to lukaku, a bit slower and a bit better at passing into the bottom corner. lukaku doesn't have an alli or an eriksen tho
― ogmor, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 13:42 (five years ago) link
wat if mouriehno modarn day
― Master Humphrey's Cock (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 14:08 (five years ago) link
solsjkaer in, lol please do that.
― FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link
i was thinking that was part of the old Skybet game and not a serious prospect at all, but you never know!
― calzino, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link
lol, just heard solsjkaer "meets all the criteria" without a laughing track.
― calzino, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link
the baby-faced caretaker
― FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 15:11 (five years ago) link
the super-sub(standard) one.
― calzino, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link
OMG with Mike Phelan as his assistant!
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link
There were a couple of early performances from Lukaku (admittedly on a US tour) where he looked quick and strong on the shoulder of the last man and it looked like he was going to develop into something. He's since had the life sucked out of him by the general gloom over Utd.
It does seem to be structural. Like, the same sluggish, sludgy football whoever the manager, the sense of fear on the pitch, the lack of direction in the boardroom. This is a stretch but it's either a) someone needs to come in and exorcise the ghost up in the stands (it's Hamlet's dad, essentially) or ii) it's a bit like Paul Gilroy's concept of post-colonial melancholia. They need a war.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link
well, the optimism lasted almost an entire work day
― Number None, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
its managerial, completely and utterly
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link
There doesn't seem to be anyone above the level of the manager who knows anything about football, so they've had three dour negative appointments in a row, even though it's the last thing the fans want. The overall level of squad-building is incoherent, they have like six very good wide forwards, they've made one super-expensive marquee signing a year with minimal attention to less glamorous positions on the pitch. I think that stuff precedes Mourinho but he's made the absolute worst of a bad job. Maybe Fergie just ran the club from top to bottom and no one else has a clue, but there isn't really a reason why a better manager with a different philosophy couldn't be getting a lot more from even the existing squad.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link
yup to all that
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link
lol to phelan and ole. wtf. fc united fans would prob raise eyebrows at that.
― FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
?
― the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link
i just mean it would be a p underwhelming appointment even as caretakers.
― FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link
Phelan is pretty much the definition of underwhelming, I’d agree. I’d be fairly happy with Solskjaer, though, as a temporary thing. There’s not really much to lose at this point: finishing top four would be a miracle and there’s next to no chance of getting relegated.
― the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link
i guess even compared to carrick it seems a risk
― FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link
maybe not i suppose - i dunno, the whole idea of end of season caretaker is odd in itself.
― FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link
out of season caretaker obv a risky bet also
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link
some truly brutal pens in the Carabao
― Number None, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
bring back stands
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:49 (five years ago) link
amused that in some circles Solskjaer is seen as a less risible possibility than Bruce or Hughes
― I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link
aye, Hughes would let the sunshine in again alright
― Number None, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link
i can barely remember if Solksjaer has a managerial style. i'm obv not saying Hughes or Bruce are remotely likely, but it's not like their managerial chops are any more questionable than Solskjaer's
― I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link
yeah but they're both cunts
― Number None, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link
I'm not turning cartwheels about this appointment but I would have been happy enough with Carrick and McKenna til the end of the season tbh (considering it's almost a total write-off at this point). Getting in a dour PL journeyman would be a horrible move. At least this is somewhat left field. I mean, fuck it
― Number None, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:20 (five years ago) link
nah i agree with all that, i was just listening to former professionals laughing at the notion of Bruce/Hughes (obviously correctly) but then getting all up in Solskjaer's rear
― I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link
at least Carrick/McKenna would have some logic of potential continuity to it, this is like a post-shark jump sitcom bringing in a very special guest who turns out to be not so very special
― I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:23 (five years ago) link
baby faced shark jumping do do do do do do
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link
Hey Manchester United, I’m available— Alan Curbishley (@AlansAvailable) December 18, 2018
― imago, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link
I presume the thinking here is that it would essentially be impossible for the Utd fans to turn on wee Ole
let's find out
― Number None, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:25 (five years ago) link
yeah i agree with nv. i think there's a hint of politics about this - real pragmatism would have been carrick who is already working there. this feels like hunting some cheap soft power.
xpost that's definitely it, which to me coming from woodward and co seems cynical.
― FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link
trying to think of any united players that went on to become decent managers, help me out here
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link
Phil Neville seems to be doing ok
― I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:30 (five years ago) link
George Graham won some titles.
― Tim, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link
Blanc is definitely the most successful to have played under Fergie, although he barely counts
― Number None, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link
oh, good shouts! robson had a couple of great seasons at boro i guess but a bit iffy after that
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link
Robson one of the worst managers in my lifetime at that level
― I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:38 (five years ago) link
Mind you I didn't much care for him as a player so
― I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link
apart from his highlights: winning the Skol Skol Bloodaxe league a couple of times years ago and being much more useless than Warnock at Cardiff, Solksjaer seems like another ex-player stealing a living to me. I wouldn't fucking wish him on Bradford City tbh!
― calzino, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link
ended up in an ex-man u player google hole but... is it just me who had never heard this?
Philip Patrick Stephen Mulryne, OP (born 1 January 1978) is a Northern Irish Dominican friar and priest in the Roman Catholic Church, and retired professional footballer. Born in Belfast, he started his career at Manchester United before playing more than 150 games for Norwich City and was a Northern Ireland international.
― FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:45 (five years ago) link
Steve Coppell?
― the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link
SOLSKJAER/PHELAN CONFIRMED
― I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 09:20 (five years ago) link
KEANO IN AT CENTRE MID
― I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 09:26 (five years ago) link
Philip Mulryne refuses to rule out mass for new duo!
― FernandoHierro, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 09:30 (five years ago) link