one out all out: a brexit from the modern world and every one of its problems please (we're all gonna die lol)

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amy oldberk, you know, daughter of sir les oldberk, running for his seat next time round

gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link

RoI abortion / birching of bairns / Brexit is a pretty close comparison in that the experts are pretty clear on whether it's a good idea, but that by itself isn't going to carry the day.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link

"unelected bureaucrats" is such a big thing in the lexicon of UKIP/Far right Con/the Brexit campaign, that I deffo meant that as sarcasm, or how it would be reported by what's left of the right wing printed press.

calzino, Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link

heh i thought so but look i also know the other types of unelected bureaucrats and obv they ought be in the flatbed trucks with the rest of em when the time comes

gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

ah, the ideal world, where every position in every department of government is filled via an election by the general populace! or better still, via lottery.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

I am delighted to inform you that the perpetually constipated Jordan Peterson has opinions about Corbyn:

Elect him at your peril https://t.co/BX91vYNsXc

— Jordan B Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) December 16, 2018

gyac, Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

Suggest everyone ripping the piss out of the Citizens’ Assembly read this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/08/how-99-strangers-in-a-dublin-hotel-broke-irelands-abortion-deadlock

The Citizens’ Assembly voted 64-36 in favour of repeal; the actual result was 66-34.

It’s a bad idea for the UK, which a) has already voted and b) ran the referendum in the first place without a clear outcome.

gyac, Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link

can only speak for our own goodselves on the emerald isle

we are posted via lottery

xp tbf to calz gyac he nodded our way

also we are i hope more reasonable than the brits right

gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link

Idk about reasonable but I would say more politically educated through good ol CSPE

gyac, Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link

no doubt John Sacks and all those other JP groupies at the bbc will working out how to subliminally brainwash the UK into hearing that piece in their sleep if there is a build up to a snap election.

calzino, Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link

Just reminds me of that bit from Betting the House where the Sun have that anti-Corbyn front page on polling day and Corbyn just pisses himself laughing when he sees it. “Oh noooo, lobster man thinks I’m bad, oh nooooo”

gyac, Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link

Wow at that Damon piece. I think I would trust even the worst elected representative over a guy who told the world he got off heroin with nothing more than a few aspirin.

Matt DC, Monday, 17 December 2018 07:43 (five years ago) link

there's something fascinating about the lack of self-awareness of your Albarns, like there's no evidence that he thought to himself "maybe me chipping in here will alienate as many people as it enthuses, perhaps i should just shut up and work quietly behind the scenes" because he can't imagine a world that doesn't want to hear what he, Damon Albarn out of Gorillaz, has to say about stuff

I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 December 2018 07:59 (five years ago) link

Why would he think that, when his latest interview is run over x number of pages, with pics etc?

Mark G, Monday, 17 December 2018 08:15 (five years ago) link

Heard enough of Jonathan Coe's on-the-nose middle england caricatures when his shitty brexit novel was book of the week on r4 recently. But tbf to him he's not Damon fucking Albarn!

calzino, Monday, 17 December 2018 09:43 (five years ago) link

and Labour supporter Caitlin Moran, who said in an opinion piece before election 17 that Labour needed a more media savvy leader like the Maybot, because she was going "gangbusters" in the polls because of her great oratory skills. That sort of insight is worth every penneth of the 250k she gets.

calzino, Monday, 17 December 2018 09:55 (five years ago) link

just reading that latest D Edgerton book. He says that Scottish nationalists in the interwar years didn't want independence from the UK, but instead campaigned for the Empire having an Anglo-Scottish identity. Just thought that was interesting in the light of the rise of Ruth and Tory gains made in the some of the poorest areas.

calzino, Monday, 17 December 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link

The rise in support amongst Rangers fans, in other words. The Unionist Party, before they joined up with the Conservative Party, were popular among working class (Protestant) voters in Scotland because they had a specific Scottish identity, whereas the Labour Party were seen as inimical to nationalism of any kind. Once the Unionist Party got submerged in the Tory Party anti-Englishness and suspicion of Westminster politicians started eating up their vote.

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Monday, 17 December 2018 10:27 (five years ago) link

It's the grand Scottish tradition of saying the Union is a partnership of equals and we intend to get all we can out of it... and by the way we still hate your guts.

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Monday, 17 December 2018 10:32 (five years ago) link

Glasgae ... proud 2nd city of the empire.. btw fuck the English!

calzino, Monday, 17 December 2018 10:38 (five years ago) link

It's classic, it's the same in Northern Ireland, I speak to English people who think those guys over there actually like them.

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Monday, 17 December 2018 10:44 (five years ago) link

the ni crew on either side arent much fond of their respective home countrymen ime

republicans brethren are 32 county men and if youre not that youre nothing

gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Monday, 17 December 2018 11:08 (five years ago) link

the scots are even more despicable than the english bc they lacked the competence to carry out their imperial ambitions

https://res.cloudinary.com/jpress/image/fetch/w_700,f_auto,ar_3:2,q_auto:low,c_fill/if_h_lte_200,c_mfit,h_201/https://www.scotsman.com/webimage/1.4276316.1478182902!/image/image.jpg

ogmor, Monday, 17 December 2018 11:15 (five years ago) link

conhome have an article up now about how the Tories need to reach out to the Irish more, the header starts

"Alan O’Kelly is Executive Director of the Conservative Ireland Association, an organisation that has just been recently established to create links with the Irish community"

Fortunately we famously have very short memories.

(the comments are not short in demanding that we lose the right to vote)

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 December 2018 11:20 (five years ago) link

in conclusion everyone is bad

mark s, Monday, 17 December 2018 11:21 (five years ago) link

But only some have discovered how to style out wearing a skirt in hot weather.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 December 2018 11:26 (five years ago) link

xp you should take a break from reading headbanger comments, that way lies madness.

It is more than possible to be a proud Irish person and a Conservative at the same time, despite the Party’s full name.

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the natural tendency of Irish people to be socially and economically conservative in their thinking

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The Party has not yet cultivated a formal relationship with the Irish community in Britain

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Many are already involved in the Conservative Party, whether in local government or as constituency officers or volunteers,

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tl;dr this is AMAZING

gyac, Monday, 17 December 2018 11:29 (five years ago) link

...and online xxp

xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 December 2018 11:30 (five years ago) link

Not at all in favour of these various friends of foreign countries organisations, the interests of the British people should come first and there should be no question of dual loyalty. We lost the excellent Crispin Blunt as Chairman of Foreign Affairs Committee to the laughable Tughengendat and I wonder what role the friends of Israel played in this. There are many other examples where foreign lobbies have perverted British policy making.

Think of this the next time you read about Corbyn needing to appeal to Tory voters.

gyac, Monday, 17 December 2018 11:32 (five years ago) link

the scots are even more despicable than the english bc they lacked the competence to carry out their imperial ambitions

They got the English to do it and then reaped the rewards of the slave trade/opium trade plus cushy jobs running various colonies.

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Monday, 17 December 2018 11:53 (five years ago) link

did scotland reap the rewards? at least the welsh didn't have to eat giant turtles or support an aristocracy

ogmor, Monday, 17 December 2018 12:00 (five years ago) link

the reward was moving to canada where you don't have to eat giant turtles (there it's lobsters, and you *checks notes* fuck them)

mark s, Monday, 17 December 2018 12:08 (five years ago) link

just got around to reading the sir ivan rogers speech trace posted yesterday

allow me to tl;dr it for anyone who hasn't yet: lol we're all gonna die

It's more 'lol u got played and you're gonna die'

Matt DC, Monday, 17 December 2018 12:37 (five years ago) link

fair point, my tl;dr was insufficiently l

Reminds me of: https://youtu.be/Yi0uX2sZuFg

He probably has this framed: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/15/post-brexit-trade-deal-could-take-10-years-still-fail-warns/

gyac, Monday, 17 December 2018 12:48 (five years ago) link

I suspect we'll all die first and the lol will be alien archaeologists of the 53rd century picking through all of this and figuring out what you need to feed Michael Fabricant to get him to evolve into Boris Johnson.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 December 2018 12:50 (five years ago) link

Fabricant has views on this!
https://youtu.be/dEIDkr1nhAk

gyac, Monday, 17 December 2018 12:53 (five years ago) link

some mutants get healing factors or telekinesis or the ability to shoot force beams from their eyes but fabricant gets... that

no wonder his heart is filled with rancid piss

xxp

"hmm.. future alien archaeologist pal, it looks like a classic case of a rapid population bottleneck/civilisational collapse exacerbated by increasingly intemperate degenerates inbreeding with each other"

calzino, Monday, 17 December 2018 13:09 (five years ago) link

further significant anecdata for the aliens (re the scots in this case):

Dalí lobster telephone to remain in UK after Scottish buyer found https://t.co/hnI264a3hd

— The Guardian (@guardian) December 17, 2018

mark s, Monday, 17 December 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link

i didn't know jordan peterson was scottish

plz to keep up with my hilarious cryptic gag builds mr gazzara

mark s, Monday, 17 December 2018 13:41 (five years ago) link

fuck sorry this is what happens when i make the mistake of concentrating on work for a few minutes

never do that obv

mark s, Monday, 17 December 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link

i'm usually very disciplined about these things, i dunno how it happened tbh

Hi @coindesk, that is not a photo of Timothy May, the author of the "Crypto Anarchist Manifesto" - that's former Theresa May advisor Nick Timothy https://t.co/cCQoCHkaka pic.twitter.com/gHg2bzfYcC

— James Cook (@JamesLiamCook) December 17, 2018

brokenshire (jed_), Monday, 17 December 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link

Nick Timothy May or may not be dead

Neil S, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:03 (five years ago) link

schrodinger's twat

hi 5

gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link


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