Could we please be objective cause the other POLLS are queuing up behind us - Artist Poll #94 - Belle & Sebastian - RESULTS

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Comparable levels of greatness by my reckoning, with "Carriage Clock" not all that far behind.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:38 (five years ago) link

it's the same vid from the ballot thread: https://tubeunblock.com/watch?v=w_nlGHj8lKY

devvvine, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:38 (five years ago) link

Yes, was referring to Jonathan David... to each his own, I suppose, that song is to busy for me.

enochroot, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:40 (five years ago) link

I get it about JD

xp thanks devvvine!

will be interesting to see what shows up from here on out

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:43 (five years ago) link

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22. Expectations
From Tigermilk (1996)
Live at Barrowlands (again)
Points: 380
Votes: 24
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link

the lyrics to this are so amazing

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:52 (five years ago) link

this is a great song but i kinda find it inseparable from the also great 'she's losing it'

devvvine, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:52 (five years ago) link

The Model was my #1. It's one of those songs I have to play like 3 times in a row every time I hear it because of the head-spinning density of the lyrics and the gorgeousness of the arrangement.

The Model is amazing. That rush of words reminds me of that story about how Dylan thought nuclear war was coming so he just took all the stanzas he'd jotted down intended as starting points for various songs and just threw them all into A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall before it was too late.

This is a great comparison. Lyrically it's kind of a one-off for Murdoch, though The State I Am In has a similar oblique surreal logic to it.

Also, Elec Renaissance way too low :(

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 December 2018 00:59 (five years ago) link

"Middle Distance Runner" is one of those songs that feels familiar even though I only heard it for the first time last week. Really beautiful song that I probably put too low on my ballot

Can't believe we haven't seen a Sinister song yet! I guess the album results hinted at this, but there's only one song on there that I think is average; the rest very good to great. Wonder if every song will place

Vinnie, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:02 (five years ago) link

Glad to see "Nobody's Empire", I had that at #5 I think. Voted for "Play for Today" too, but I doubt that'd be higher.

erasingclouds, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:02 (five years ago) link

Hoping Play For Today makes it somehow. It was in my top 10.

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:05 (five years ago) link

A slide from this morning's motivational band talk. pic.twitter.com/NHYtWMfzPF

— stuart murdoch (@nee_massey) December 14, 2018

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:07 (five years ago) link

lol

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:08 (five years ago) link

First track with TWO first place votes!

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21. Your Cover's Blown
From Books (2004)
Promo video for the Miaoux Miaoux remix
Points: 398
Votes: 20, including 1 vote for the Miaoux Miaoux remix.
#1 Votes: 2

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:23 (five years ago) link

legendary

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:28 (five years ago) link

So that just leaves the top 20. I'll give it a rest for now.

I'm interested in opinions on the best time to roll out the remainder (including the ideal time of day for Euro and American folk) Weekends on ILM are usually too quiet, no?

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:51 (five years ago) link

For stats fans:


Rank Title Pts Votes #1s

60 I Don't Love Anyone 156 11 0
59 If You Find Yourself Caught in Love 157 9 0
58 I Want the World to Stop 158 11 0
57 The Blues Are Still Blue 168 13 0
56 I Fought in a War 177 13 0
55 Put the Book Back on the Shelf/Songs for Children 178 12 1
54 I Know Where the Summer Goes 179 13 0
53 Beautiful 181 10 0
52 Ease Your Feet in the Sea 187 11 1
51 Is It Wicked Not to Care 206 12 0
50 Dress Up in You 209 10 0
49 I Didn't See It Coming 216 13 1
48 Jonathan David 221 12 0
47 Photo Jenny 228 16 0
46 There's Too Much Love 238 15 0
44= It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career 244 15 0
44= I'm Waking Up to Us 244 18 0
43 Another Sunny Day 248 12 0
42 My Wandering Days Are Over 257 16 0
41 Seymour Stein 258 14 0
40 Piazza, New York Catcher 271 18 0
39 We Rule the School 276 21 0
37= String Bean Jean 283 17 0
37= The Rollercoaster Ride 283 18 0
36 You're Just a Baby 285 17 1
35 Funny Little Frog 287 14 1
34 Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie 292 20 1
33 A Century of Fakers 293 15 1
32 Step Into My Office, Baby 297 16 0
31 Wrapped Up in Books 300 21 0
30 Women's Realm 305 21 0
29 Don't Leave the Light on Baby 310 17 0
28 The Model 322 19 1
27 I Could Be Dreaming 324 16 1
26 A Summer Wasting 327 15 0
25 Electronic Renaissance 335 23 0
24 Nobody's Empire 348 18 1
23 The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner 365 20 0
22 Expectations 380 24 0
21 Your Cover's Blown 398 20 2

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 01:53 (five years ago) link

I vote for Monday, working hours EST, since that's when I'm most online.

BTW, thanks for running this poll, Nag... this is the most fun I've had on ILM since I joined.

enochroot, Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:01 (five years ago) link

Weekend rollouts are best earlier in the reveals, and then only for about 5 entries a day.

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:04 (five years ago) link

I'm on Pacific Time, but realize most of the interest may be in other time zones. Thanks Nag

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:07 (five years ago) link

Every single one of my polls have run into Saturday and both New Order and Steely Dan went into a Sunday. I'm on the West Coast and usually started around 10 AM on the weekends. People want to see who wins so Weekends for polls doesn't really hurt them. Most people don't want to wait on results.

Great job you are doing Nag!

Bee OK, Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:14 (five years ago) link

wow there's some surprises in that last batch - thought Your Cover's Blown was probably a lock for top 10. Nobody's Empire is decent but there's this awkward disconnect between the opening riff and the verse for me that doesn't quite work, so I'm really shocked it showed up so high and above things like Electronic Renaissance and I Could Be Dreaming which are some of their very best to me. it does have a nice build but it being the consensus late career pick over I Didn't See It Coming?

ufo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:54 (five years ago) link

"Your Cover's Blown" is just a ludicrous accomplishment. it was in my top 5

resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 15 December 2018 03:04 (five years ago) link

Nothing yet has been on half the ballots I think!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 15 December 2018 03:28 (five years ago) link

I believe 12 or 13 of my 30 votes have placed. not bad!

resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 15 December 2018 03:42 (five years ago) link

HOLY SHIT

I was gonna do that thing where you guess the top 3, but figured that would be annoying so I didn't. But I would have had Expectations at 2 or 3!! To my ears it's one of their crowning achievements, and I know I've talked with others who say the same. This is blowing my mind.

Electronic Rennaissance is in my personal top 3 but I know I'm weird about that one.

rip van wanko, Saturday, 15 December 2018 04:41 (five years ago) link

I think "ER" was my #3. Any song vaguely approximating New Order's "Procession" deserves such a ranking. And "Expectations" was somewhere in my top ten.

I've been surprised generally by the relative lack of popularity of Tigermilk, as an album, and of its constituent tracks, in relation to IYFS. Half a lifetime ago they felt like twin statements of approximately equal standing. Feels like a gulf has opened up between them while I was inattentive. (Or I could have just misjudged the situation in first place, my own preference being for the earlier record. LOL)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 06:29 (five years ago) link

I wonder if it has something to do with the timing of its wider release.

My first exposure to B&S was IYFS, then TBWTAS, then the 3 EPs, and then Tigermilk only after all of those

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 06:52 (five years ago) link

also seven or so out of its ten tracks have placed, more than any other album so far, and I expect at least one more to show up

I guess I see your point, though, that all but maybe one will end up lower on the list than any track from IYFS

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 07:06 (five years ago) link

I didn't vote for it but surely we've got She's Losing It to come as well as The State I Am In?

On what seem like dead certs to me I also count one more from Dog on Wheels EP, eight from IYFS, one more from Lazy Line EP, two from the Modern Rock Song EP, four from TBWTAS, and two from Dear Catastrophe Waitress.

Which makes 20!

Alba, Saturday, 15 December 2018 08:24 (five years ago) link

XP: Tigermilk is certainly very popular. I guess I just thought it was a fraction more popular. :)

The albums poll asks this question more or less explicitly. Both appeared on the same number ballots (ie. nearly all of them) but IYFS's score was good 37% higher. "IYFS > Tigermilk" is a much more common sentiment than the opposite case. I just naively expected a slightly closer race.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 08:28 (five years ago) link

* consults spreadsheet to gauge Alba's soothsaying skillz *

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 08:32 (five years ago) link

Okay, I think I'll restrict the rollout to a trickle over the weekend and conclude with the top ten on Monday (GMT), at an hour that's convenient to most of Europe and the Americas.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 08:59 (five years ago) link

I was hoping for Middle Distance Runner to crack the top 15, one of Murdoch's best vocal performances, his high notes are killing me.
Comparatively, I don't really get Expectations: good strumming song but still a strumming song.

Nabozo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 10:28 (five years ago) link

Okay, just a handful today. Starting with...

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20. This Is Just a Modern Rock Song
From This Is Just a Modern Rock Song (1998)
Original promo video
Points: 400
Votes: 23
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 11:43 (five years ago) link

Middle Distance Runner and Modern Rock Song I had pegged for the top 5, quite surprised, are we going to have a top 10 full of Sinister? Other ones I expected there are Slow Graffiti and The State I Am In, will be a travesty if neither if those in the top 10.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 December 2018 11:55 (five years ago) link

Fear that Middle Distance Runner suffers from being hidden away on a b-side, if it had been on IYFS I reckon it could be #1

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 December 2018 11:58 (five years ago) link

Yeah, it would fit perfectly on IYFS. It's the song I've listened to the most since participating in this poll. I predict Slow Graffiti comes next.

Nabozo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 12:18 (five years ago) link

My no.1. All time.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Saturday, 15 December 2018 12:28 (five years ago) link

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19. She's Losing It
From Tigermilk (1996)
Live at Barrowlands
Points: 412
Votes: 25
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 12:49 (five years ago) link

inch for inch and pound for pound
who needs boys when there's lisa around?

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 December 2018 12:52 (five years ago) link

some of my favourites just turned up. I love love love Your Cover's Blown and it's a shame B&S didn't do more funky rooms-within-rooms epics

frame casual (dog latin), Saturday, 15 December 2018 12:58 (five years ago) link

she's losing it is perfect the whole way through, but i especially love the horns in the last chorus

ufo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:04 (five years ago) link

and you can dance to it!

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:07 (five years ago) link

I like the juxtaposition of this concise jaunty thing at #19 with the sprawling slackness at #20.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:10 (five years ago) link

"this is just a modern rock song" is such an outlier in their discography, i like it a lot but i'm glad they cut it from if you're feeling sinister

ufo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:12 (five years ago) link

So tigers in bathtubs look like fish.

Nabozo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:18 (five years ago) link

Since it's Christmas period I've been reading my C&H compilations so anytime I see the Tigermilk cover I think it's Hobbes.

Nabozo, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:19 (five years ago) link

I love contrast between the bombast of "Modern Rock Song" and the self-deprecating lyrics.
"I'm not as sad as Dostoevsky / I'm not as clever as Mark Twain"

enochroot, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:30 (five years ago) link

It's also interesting to see the video links with these old songs, they had a very consistent visual aesthetic in the 90's. Plus, they all came out before youtube, so I had no idea these songs even had videos.

enochroot, Saturday, 15 December 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link


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