This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2018

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preferably a hemlock souffle

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 December 2018 00:55 (five years ago) link

My only objection is that we don't talk seriously about movies on the detrius thread. It's just not done.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 03:12 (five years ago) link

I created these threads so I could enjoy movies in the least-intellectual, most frivolous manner possible.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 03:13 (five years ago) link

shh!

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2018 03:13 (five years ago) link

xp not sure what you mean by that

Dan S, Thursday, 13 December 2018 03:29 (five years ago) link

I'm not minding the discussion of Burning, just skipping it

Dan S, Thursday, 13 December 2018 03:29 (five years ago) link

KU's tie at the top is sure to please all

https://www.keithuhlich.com/2018/12/10-for-2018-introduction-list.html

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 December 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link

Simply the best.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

he has the courage of his convictions, that's for sure

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 December 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

ayyyy La Flor!

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link

KU likes If Beale Street, which counts as "a remembrance of things past stagnating at the level of storyboard/previz"

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

he has the courage of his convictions, that's for sure

Honestly the only thing I care about in my critics.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link

what's this guy's deal with women, or possibly writers? The Favourite is "rancidly homophobic" on the part of the male director, not the female writer, a bunch of actresses are credited for directing a film that had some improvised dialogue, and the first X-Files in 200+ episodes written by women gets credited to the now-extremely-bad male writer who started the show 23 years ago

sans lep (sic), Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

Eric knows him better than i do, he could ask.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link

He mentioned he deliberately intended to credit directors and show creators for TV-based list entries ... but let's be honest, authorship is a moving target in some of these cases in the first place, no matter how much we've tried to force the role of show runner into some kind of Sarris-approved auteurist reading. And I don't think it's unsavory to point out the communication the past and present are having with each other when it comes to TV reboots.

I haven't watched the new X-Files myself, so I can't speak to whether he was right or wrong to credit Chris Carter. But he told me he intends to give credit to the show's writers (many female) in a longer write-up.

The Favourite, otoh, he believes to be homophobic specifically because of how Lanthimos directs it, not how it was written.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link

I didn't sense the homophobia, but that's my conviction. Don't go Frederik on me.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link

I don't play "I'm gayer than/not as gay as you" game unless I'm one of the two being compared.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link

And even then, it's not a game but a crucial establishing shot.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

deep focus

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link

you beat all comers with your music playlists, honeybunch

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link

Thanks, Eric!

(That X-Files episode is very good, btw; it and the two Darin Morgan-written-and-directed joints on the reunion albums affirm that Carter's best strength as a showrunner was in avoiding an auteurist approach. Crediting directors comes off as even more queasy in this instance, though, as Carter enabled writerly auteurism in the new seasons by having all the returning writers direct... so here he's credited one of the writer's husband over her.)

sans lep (sic), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link

I do wish Darin Morgan had a career trajectory more like Charlie Kaufmann's, and less like Jerry Stahl's.

Sanpaku, Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link

(I didn't participate this year.)

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link

Notable films that don't seem to showing up on many (any?) of these lists - The Wild Pear Tree, Loveless

Ward Fowler, Friday, 14 December 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link

Wild Pear Tree has only been released now?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 December 2018 14:53 (five years ago) link

bless Slant, but sub-Syfy dreck like Prototype doesn't belong on any respectable best movies list!

calzino, Friday, 14 December 2018 14:56 (five years ago) link

xpost
Has been on release in the UK for the last couple of weeks, but it was shown at Cannes this year (I actually think it's the weakest of Ceylan's three most recent films, but there's still enough there to earn it a place in any decent top ten).

Ward Fowler, Friday, 14 December 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link

I was really hoping La Flor would crack Slant's list but I'd wager no one but the actual reviewer saw it

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link

It hasn't gotten a theatrical US release, not even in NYC (only played the fest), hence ineligible.

(cue the Dane)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 December 2018 17:16 (five years ago) link

also Dead Souls is opening here today (in 3 parts, for a week) and I'm not sure i have the time OR money for that.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 December 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link

charging people 3x for a long movie is criminal. when La Flor played TIFF over three nights, it was free, presumably because they knew almost no one would give up all that time otherwise

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link

They charged the normal single-feature rates at NYFF.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 14 December 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link

'I hear this discussion, and it is like Gucci versus Prada' -Alfonso Cuaron, as Spike Lee and Ryan Coogler are debating NYU vs USC film schools in the @THR directors roundtable. https://t.co/RNuo3n0IKr

— Rebecca Keegan (@ThatRebecca) December 14, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:56 (five years ago) link

NYU and USC are like mirror images

Dan S, Saturday, 15 December 2018 02:57 (five years ago) link

Spike's turtleneck is fucking sick

flappy bird, Saturday, 15 December 2018 04:12 (five years ago) link

I guess David Edelstein kept his job at New York. That's good, but I didn't much like his Top 10 this year:

http://www.vulture.com/2018/12/the-10-best-movies-of-2018-as-chosen-by-david-edelstein.html

Fahrenheit 11/9 is just a bad film, and the other four I've seen (Eighth Grade, First Reformed, Won't You Be My Neighbor?, and Sorry to Bother You) I either found a little overrated or, with the last, admirably ambitious but perplexing.

clemenza, Sunday, 16 December 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link

ah, Roma, how unusual

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 December 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link

European Film Awards:

European Film - Cold War, Dir Pawel Pawlikowski (Pol, Uk, Fr)
European Comedy - The Death Of Stalin, Dir Armando Iannucci (Fr, Uk, Bel)
European Discovery - Prix Fipresci - Girl, Dir Lukas Dhont (Bel, Neth)
EFA People’s Choice Award - Call Me By Your Name, Dir Luca Guadagnino (Fr, It)
European Documentary - Bergman – A Year In A Life, Dir Jane Magnusson (Swe-Ger)
European Animated Feature - Another Day Of Life, Dirs Damian Nenow, Raúl De La Fuente (Pol, Sp, Bel, Hun, Ger)
European Director - Pawel Pawlikowski, Cold War (Pol, Uk, Fr)
European Actress - Joanna Kulig, Cold War (Pol, Uk, Fr)
European Actor - Marcello Fonte, Dogman (It, Fr)
European Screenwriter - Pawel Pawlikowski, Cold War (Pol, Uk, Fr)
European Short Film - The Years, Dir Sara Fgaier (It, Fr)
European Achievement In World Cinema- Ralph Fiennes
Lifetime Achievement Award- Carmen Maura
Honorary Award- Costa-Gavras

Previously Announced Excellence Awards

European Cinematographer - Martin Otterbeck For U – July 22 (Nor)
European Editor- Jarosław Kamiński For Cold War (Pol, Uk, Fr)
European Production Designer- Andrey Ponkratov For Summer (Leto) (Rus, Fr)
European Costume Designer- Massimo Cantini Parrini For Dogman (It, Fr)
European Hair & Make-Up Artist- Dalia Colli, Lorenzo Tamburini And Daniela Tartari 
For Dogman (It, Fr)
European Composer- Christoph M. Kaiser And Julian Maas 
For 3 Days In Quiberon (Ger, Aus, Fr)
European Sound Designer- André Bendocchi-Alves And Martin Steyer 
For The Captain (Ger)
European Visual Effects Supervisor- Peter Hjorth For Border (Swe, Den)

brokenshire (jed_), Sunday, 16 December 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link

Saw the trailer today. Reilly dons a fat suit!

flappy bird, Monday, 17 December 2018 03:59 (five years ago) link

the word 'detrius' in this thread title is gaslighting me

flopson, Monday, 17 December 2018 04:09 (five years ago) link

it's gaslighted me for 5 years at least. the other word is some fake bs.

brokenshire (jed_), Monday, 17 December 2018 04:42 (five years ago) link

The reviews for Vice make the ones for Bohemian Rhapsody look soft and cuddly.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 17 December 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

A dissenting opinion, however:

You folks hating on VICE so much vitriol and rage right now: **No one improperly eats a slice of pizza in it.** Please keep that in mind when you call it the "worst movie of the year."

— David Fear (@davidlfear) December 17, 2018

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 17 December 2018 19:00 (five years ago) link

BEST PICTURE OF THE YEAR: Roma (Netflix)

BEST DIRECTOR: Alfonso Cuarón, Roma

BEST ACTOR: Ethan Hawke, First Reformed

BEST ACTRESS: Toni Collette, Hereditary

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR: Richard E. Grant, Can You Ever Forgive Me?

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Regina King, If Beale Street Could Talk

BEST ENSEMBLE CAST: Widows

BEST SCREENPLAY: The Favourite – Deborah Davis & Tony McNamara

BEST ANIMATED FEATURE: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse – Bob Persichetti, Peter Ramsey, Rodney Rothman, directors

BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM: Roma – Alfonso Cuarón, director

BEST DOCUMENTARY FEATURE: Free Solo – Elizabeth Chai Vasarhelyi, Jimmy Chin, directors

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY: Roma – Alfonso Cuarón

http://seattlefilmcritics.com/

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link

officially on the Roma hate train now

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 17 December 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link

choo-choo!

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link

Anyway, I'm about to submit my Florida Film Critics Circle ballot. I can tell you which film won't be on it.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link


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