Could we please be objective cause the other POLLS are queuing up behind us - Artist Poll #94 - Belle & Sebastian - RESULTS

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Not much of a spoiler, I guess: no, not as a compilation of the three parts. A mere five slots to fill is frightfully limiting though, so unsurprising.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:42 (ten months ago) link

7.
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The Life Pursuit (February 2006)
Points: 23
Votes: 12
#1 Votes: 1

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:45 (ten months ago) link

So far, so good.

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:49 (ten months ago) link

with the exception of song for sunshine, nothing but bangers

devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:51 (ten months ago) link

Voted for both of these last two, glad to see I'm far from the only one.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:52 (ten months ago) link

Good to see Storytelling get a vote (even if it wasn't me)

enochroot, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:54 (ten months ago) link

6.
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Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant (June 2000)
Points: 30
Votes: 13
#1 Votes: 0

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:03 (ten months ago) link

i'm a little surprised this one did better than The Life Pursuit. i don't really care much for either but i think this is the right way around though

ufo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:06 (ten months ago) link

Stevie Jackson on "Fold Your Hands Child":
"For a long time, this was my least favourite record because it was such a miserable time making it. I just hated that period. It was a rudderless operation and there was a lot of intrigue going on with the band. It was the end of the 90s so you had just endless studio time and budgets that no longer exist and I just remember being in there forever and it being a really obscene waste of time. An album emerged from it eventually..."

enochroot, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:07 (ten months ago) link

one thing that really stands out about it is all the harpsichord

ufo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:10 (ten months ago) link

uneven but women's realm -> family tree -> there's too much love is a perfect piece of sequencing

devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:14 (ten months ago) link

If we were submitting our 10 favourite B&S LPs, FYHCYWLAP would have been my #10

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:14 (ten months ago) link

but yeah, women's realm and ttml are pretty great

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:16 (ten months ago) link

FYH beating TLP is a travesty but I didn't submit an album list so I'm partly to blame.

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:19 (ten months ago) link

When it came out, I think I resented Stuart for not writing all the songs.

enochroot, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:20 (ten months ago) link

*extremely me voice* girls in peacetime is also better than fold your hands

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:20 (ten months ago) link

girls in peacetime just missed my ballot, i was definitely surprised by it

ufo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:22 (ten months ago) link

one thing that really stands out about it is all the harpsichord

yeah it's the most baroque-pop they ever got. my favorite non-comp b&s album these days

J. Sam, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:26 (ten months ago) link

Speaking of which, purists holding the opinion that compilations don't really count are invited to avert their gaze...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:29 (ten months ago) link

I've tried listening the The Life Pursuit, I really have. But I just can't understand how anyone could rank it above FYHCYWLAP. Before the Sunrise is bad, but it's not bad enough to sink the whole album! I guess there are just people who want a very different thing out of this band and that's all well and good!

Alba, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:29 (ten months ago) link

5.
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Push Barman to Open Old Wounds (singles compilation, May 2005)
Points: 73
Votes: 22
#1 Votes: 4

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:30 (ten months ago) link

The nadir of FYHC.. for me is the opening to The Wrong Girl, Beyond The Sunrise is fine.

I ummed and ahhed about voting for Push Barman but ultimately, just look at what's on it.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:33 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, I voted for it, and I've never actually listened to it (just to the EP's that comprise it)

enochroot, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:34 (ten months ago) link

Yes, felt a bit weird putting Push Barman as my #2 even though I don't own it and still don't think I've ever listened to it from start to finish, but that's compilations for you.

I forgot Beyond the Sunrise's name it's so bad. Well it would be fine as a B-side I guess.

Alba, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:35 (ten months ago) link

4.
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Dear Catastrophe Waitress (October 2003)
Points: 79
Votes: 29
#1 Votes: 2

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:52 (ten months ago) link

wow too low! classic nearly the whole way through

ufo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:52 (ten months ago) link

I was expecting a few more #1 votes. Still, it was on almost 3/4 of ballots.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:55 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, now that i'm looking at the track list again, I feel like I should have had it higher in my list.

Top 3 prediction:
Arab Strap, Tigermilk, Sinister

enochroot, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 13:57 (ten months ago) link

prefer peacetime and the ones that have placed since to arab strap

devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:00 (ten months ago) link

3.
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The Boy with the Arab Strap (September 1998)
Points: 92
Votes: 33
#1 Votes: 5

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:14 (ten months ago) link

this has some incredible highs but it's way more inconsistent than the first two and DCW

ufo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:15 (ten months ago) link

I was surprised to find myself not voting for TABBYWARS, but though I like most of the tracks and it's sequenced well, I just don't go back to it, in the end it was shunted out by The Life Pursuit

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:16 (ten months ago) link

The Boy with the Arab Strap #1's Unite!

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_ .)/ (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:20 (ten months ago) link

What is TABBYWARS?

enochroot, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:22 (ten months ago) link

I've never liked Boy with the Arab Strap, kind of mystified by the high placement. Girls in Peacetime and The Life Pursuit deserve to be higher.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:23 (ten months ago) link

will concede that 'it could have been a brilliant career' is an incredible way to start a record

devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:24 (ten months ago) link

xp ufo
I think The Boy with the Arab Strap is their most consistent album so...

ヽ(_ _ヽ)彡 ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒᵏᵃʸ_(・_ .)/ (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:24 (ten months ago) link

For a lot of people (myself included), it was their first real exposure to the band, which counts for a lot.

enochroot, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:25 (ten months ago) link

I tend to think a lot of the post-two-classics albums from B&S are about equal to each other, they all have some really good, some good, quite a lot of mundane, and a few questionable numbers. Which is partly why it's a great band to poll imo. The later albums are also just less known / familiar.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:33 (ten months ago) link

TWATTYBUS was my highest ranked conventional album (Barman was #1) after a cold scientific calculation of the raw number of favourite tracks on each. Didn't feel quite right somehow, but I went with science anyway.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:35 (ten months ago) link

these acronyms are killing me lol

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:38 (ten months ago) link

TWATTYBUS!

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:38 (ten months ago) link

TUBBYBEERS has a couple classics but also a lot of riff raff.

SA, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:39 (ten months ago) link

I didn't vote in the albums poll but don't get the distaste for FYTCHYWALLOP

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:45 (ten months ago) link

did anyone ever ask the Glaswegians from the band Arab Strap what they thought of this album title? (or "Space Boy Dream," which deliberately cribs their whole deal)

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:50 (ten months ago) link

they're from Falkirk, not Glasgow, my bad

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:50 (ten months ago) link

i thought they were supposed to have been annoyed by it because people kept thinking it was a collaboration?

ufo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:51 (ten months ago) link

When questioned about it, Arab Strap's leader/singer, Aidan Moffat, said "They have a sense of humour." Malcolm Middleton, the band's instrumentalist, added, "Because Arab Strap is quite an interesting name. The words go well together. That's why we chose it as a band name. We're friends with them, but there's a limit to putting someone else's name on an album. They're taking away something from us." He also mentioned that the album had been confused as a collaboration between the bands

devvvine, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:51 (ten months ago) link

I didn't vote in albums, I had to hustle to get tracks in. But no controversy here.

campreverb, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:55 (ten months ago) link

Nor here, I suspect:

2.
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Tigermilk (June 1996)
Points: 116
Votes: 38
#1 Votes: 7

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 14:57 (ten months ago) link

"Seeing Other People" was my #1 to a large extent because it sounds like Charlie Brown music.

Can't deny there's something to this

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 05:43 (ten months ago) link

just want to say i enjoyed the warmth exhibited throughout this poll even if this band doesn't do much for me.

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 06:01 (ten months ago) link

Great poll thanks, never seen any of these 'outtake'/alternate-cover images before.

piscesx, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 06:05 (ten months ago) link

I only possess a Vince Guaraldi record because a Charlie Brown vibe was also noted on, presumably, the Sinister list back in the day!

Anyone who voted for "Act of the Apostle" and "Song for Sunshine" (I missed the latter when listing the unpopular things on my ballot} may actually be the best kind of B&S fan.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 07:08 (ten months ago) link

Great poll! Thanks for running it so wonderfully! :)

1. The State I Am In
2. I'm A Cuckoo
3. Your Cover's Blown
4. It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career
5. Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying
6. Lazy Line Painter Jane
7. If She Wants Me
8. The Boy With The Arab Strap
9. She's Losing It
10. Don't Leave The Light On Baby
11. The Blues Are Still Blue
12. Stay Loose
13. You're Just a Baby
14. The Model
15. Expectations
16. Jonathan David
17. Funny Little Frog (GHTG version)
18. There's Too Much Love
19. Dirty Dream Number Two
20. We Rule The School
21. The Chalet Lines
22. To Be Myself Completely
23. Women's Realm
24. Slow Graffiti
25. Judy and the Dream of Horses
26. A Summer Wasting
27. My Wandering Days Are Over
28. Electronic Renaissance
29. If You're Feeling Sinister
30. Piazza New York Catcher

Your dad's Carlos Boozer and you keep him alive (fionnland), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 08:30 (ten months ago) link

This poll really arrived at an ideal time to re-think B&S, at that 20 year point where cultural artifacts take on a new context and rock artists sometime exit their awkward middle career flailing. The 90s records feel closer to Stereolab and even Ghost Box hauntalogy and further from c86 and twee now. Not that the later labels don't apply, but this listening exercise has changed my generalizations about the music.

eva logorrhea (bendy), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 14:08 (ten months ago) link

yeah stereolab as a comparison definitely occurred to me when i was going through their discog, though mostly for the self-consciously retro pop songs but with motorik beats thing

ufo, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 14:34 (ten months ago) link

I thought of Stereolab when I was trying to place the sound behind Sleep the Clock Around. They share a similar relationship with kitsch, too.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 15:59 (ten months ago) link

organ riff at the end of "lazy line painter jane" is extreeeeeeeemely stereolab imo (and also extremely vu ofc)

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:00 (ten months ago) link

There's something to be said for them following a particular path out of the VU sound - much closer to the Nico/John Cale version than the Lou Reed one, obviously.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:02 (ten months ago) link

eh i think the third album is a major part of their sound

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:07 (ten months ago) link

Buh, of course. Brainfart.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:10 (ten months ago) link

just catching up with the results -- good stuff! one more ballot fwiw (informed by a cursory re-listening that turned often to awe and new appreciation, of course. i love this band's multitudes)

Like Dylan in the Movies
Women's Realm
The Stars of Track and Field
Seeing Other People
Another Sunny Day
A Summer Wasting
Me and the Major
Mayfly
The State I Am In
White Collar Boy
Get Me Away from Here, I'm Dying
She's Losing It
Funny Little Frog
I Didn't See It Coming
The Fox in the Snow
The Rollercoaster Ride
Family Tree
Lazy Line Painter Jane
Wrapped Up in Books
Sleep the Clock Around
Electronic Renaissance
Dog on Wheels
Your Cover's Blown
Come On Sister
We Are the Sleepyheads
Judy is a Dick Slap
Stay Loose
Waiting for the Moon to Rise
You Made Me Forget My Dreams
The Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner

geoffreyess, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 22:46 (ten months ago) link

I have no idea whether there's any discernable evidence in either case, but from the chatter on fan lists of each, I always imagined B&S must have prompted a spike in sales of Bryter Layter in a fashion not unlike Stereolab doing the same for Neu!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 23:15 (ten months ago) link

This was an awesome poll. Cheers.

ALBUMS
1. Dear Catastrophe Waitress
2. If You’re Feeling Sinister
3. Tigermilk
4. Push Barman to Open Old Wounds
5. The Boy with the Arab Strap

EPS
1. Dog on Wheels
2. Lazy Line Painter Jane
3. Books
4. 3... 6... 9... Seconds of Light
5. Legal Man

TRACKS:
1. Me and the Major
2. Dog on Wheels
3. If You’re Feeling Sinister
4. Stay Loose
5. You Don’t Send Me
6. If You Find Yourself Caught in Love
7. She’s Losing It
8. Piazza, New York Catcher
9. Get Me Away from Here, I’m Dying
10. Is It Wicked Not to Care?
11. Sleep the Clock Around
12. Like Dylan in the Movies
13. I’m a Cuckoo
14. It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career
15. Electronic Renaissance
16. You’re Just a Baby
17. Seeing Other People
18. Expectations
19. Judy and the Dream of Horses
20. Legal Man
21. The Boy with the Arab Strap
22. Step Into My Office, Baby
23. Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie
24. Your Cover’s Blown
25. I Love My Car
26. I Believe in Traveling Light
27. Stars of Track and Field
28. Act of the Apostle
29. The Party Line
30. Asleep on a Sunbeam

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 00:16 (ten months ago) link

This poll made me realize a lot of people listen to B&S for reasons different to mine.

I had never really paid Lazy Line Painter Jane. I think it's appalling. Possibly the worst song by this band I've heard? Here's my points score:

40 - Stay Loose
36 - Expectations
33 - Dylan in the Movies
30 - I fought in a war
28 - I’m a cuckoo
26 - Dog on wheels
25 - Another sunny day
24 - Funny little frog
23 - Allie
22 - We were beautiful
21 - White collar boy
20 - Sunday’s pretty icons
19 - I want the world to stop
18 - Your cover’s blown
17 - The party line
16 - The everlasting muse
15 - The stars of track and field
14 - Wrapped up in books
13 - A summer wasting
12 - The fox in the snow
11 - Dirty Dream 2
10 - Play for today
9 - The blues are still blue

paulhw, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 02:08 (ten months ago) link

I've never really liked it either

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 03:32 (ten months ago) link

I keep coming back to that "The Blues are Still Blue" Lip Dub thingy. Gloriously goofy, and I like the song about 89% more after several viewings. Thanks bendy.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 07:35 (ten months ago) link

Mine:

1 Ease Your Feet in the Sea
2 Belle & Sebastian
3 Seeing Other People
4 The Fox in the Snow
5 Slow Graffiti
6 String Bean Jean
7 Don't Leave the Light on Baby
8 Winter Wooskie
9 The Stars of Track and Field
10 A Century of Fakers
11 You Made Me Forget My Dreams
12 Dog on Wheels
13 Legal Man
14 The Model
15 Me and the Major
16 Stay Loose
17 I Know Where the Summer Goes
18 Lazy Line Painter Jane
19 The State I Am In
20 Step Into My Office, Baby
21 Beautiful
22 Simple Things
23 It Could Have Been a Brilliant Career
24 I Fought in a War
25 Photo Jenny
26 Sleep the Clock Around
27 Chickfactor
28 The Rollercoaster Ride
29 Women's Realm
30 Nice Day for a Sulk

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 07:57 (ten months ago) link

I keep coming back to that "The Blues are Still Blue" Lip Dub thingy. Gloriously goofy, and I like the song about 89% more after several viewings. Thanks bendy.

― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, December 19, 2018 8:35 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Otm! Gave me a whole new appreciation for the song. What a joyful bunch.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 12:35 (ten months ago) link

A schoolyard of teens united in song, singing and dancing clumsily around Seville orange trees could well be a dream image from 90s B&S.

eva logorrhea (bendy), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 12:39 (ten months ago) link

it's so cool.

frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 15:24 (ten months ago) link

four weeks pass...

I should have put Play for Today *much* higher. What a track.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Friday, 18 January 2019 13:54 (nine months ago) link

Indeed.

I had but one Peacetime track on my hastily-assembled ballot. I'm wiser now and have even, finally, procured a physical copy. (Write About Love too, fercrissakes!) I also had a nice image prepared for "Play for Today", so I was doubly sad to see it slip down the rankings in late voting.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 05:51 (nine months ago) link

Put it here, You're allowed!

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 11:29 (nine months ago) link

This poll was responsible for B&S cementing themselves in my favourite top 5 or so bands. Before they were a band I liked generally, loving a few songs and a couple albums. Now their entire catalogue just makes me very, very happy.

Thanks, Nag!

Your dad's Carlos Boozer and you keep him alive (fionnland), Monday, 28 January 2019 13:44 (eight months ago) link

Definitely the rare and weird category of favorite band I unabashedly adore and want to listen to all the time, except for when I don't and find them too precious and need to set them aside for several months or even years.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 January 2019 15:12 (eight months ago) link

Ha ha, yes. Same.

Alba, Monday, 28 January 2019 15:40 (eight months ago) link

Thirded.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 28 January 2019 15:56 (eight months ago) link

Fourthed. (I'd practically given up on them before this poll.)

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Monday, 28 January 2019 16:04 (eight months ago) link

Yes! I feel this way about the Pixies too.

eva logorrhea (bendy), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:34 (eight months ago) link

I've only just worked out that the backing vocals at the end of Play for Today are 'author, author'. I've been singing 'up your jumper'.

And it bears repeating: what a fucking great song.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Sunday, 10 February 2019 19:41 (eight months ago) link

I though it was something like "up the mountain"

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 10 February 2019 19:45 (eight months ago) link

two months pass...

I totally think it is 'up the mountain' but other days I hear 'author author' - both have resonance. Anyway, what a song and would probably be my number one if I were to vote today.

Let's fill the glass and light to share the sun
The backstage of your life.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Saturday, 13 April 2019 21:56 (six months ago) link

The lyrics on the sleeve are "author author" but my ears refuse to hear it as anything but "up the mountain".

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 13 April 2019 23:53 (six months ago) link


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