The Ballad of Buster Scruggs - Coen Brothers Netflix series turned portmanteau movie

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HAHAHA

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link

excellent

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 01:20 (five years ago) link

I need to rewatch, but I totally think it's possible the Coens saw the Leprechaun parallels and played into it a bit without literally trying to say the dude was a Leprechaun.

circa1916, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 01:28 (five years ago) link

Leprechauns? That's where the Coens are Vikings!

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 02:23 (five years ago) link

Leprechaun Returns out today fyi

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 02:52 (five years ago) link

n 'All Gold Canyon,' the stranger/claim jumper who shot Tom Waits' prospector in the back was actually a leprechaun protecting his "pot o' gold," y/n?

He's wearing all green, he's appears out of nowhere, and he doesn't act with any urgency to collect the gold Waits found. He, instead, smokes a cigarette calmly and sits down like "got another one."

When I first read this, I thought you were literally saying that the character is a leprechaun and this is a salient part of the plot, which seemed far-fetched. If the idea is more that the costume designer was drawing on leprechaun-like archetypes in the character's outfit, as a sort of joke, without it necessarily making the character a leprechaun in any substantive way that would matter to the story, that does seem more plausible.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 03:51 (five years ago) link

what if leprechauns were just a mythical representation of claim jumpers the whole time? always hoarding gold, just out of our reach

mh, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 03:53 (five years ago) link

In the original Jack London story, the fact that the gold does NOT belong to the claim jumper is absolutely essential to the story. Even hinting that this was in some way a legitimate act, protecting the murderer's legitimate rights to the gold turns the entire story on its head.

But such a reversal of roles makes zero sense. The deeper moral outrage of the story is predicated on the idea that, not only does the stranger murder the prospector for the gold, but he purposely waits around before killing him, so the prospector would do all the hard physical work for him. He not just greedy and violent, he's lazy, too.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 04:01 (five years ago) link

did anyone imply the claim jumper was ever in the right

mh, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 04:12 (five years ago) link

I mean, it would be implied if he was a leprechaun...

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 04:13 (five years ago) link

so mythical beings have property rights now? pshaw

mh, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 04:19 (five years ago) link

ersatz pshaw. I'm not buying it.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 04:32 (five years ago) link

I need to rewatch, but I totally think it's possible the Coens saw the Leprechaun parallels and played into it a bit without literally trying to say the dude was a Leprechaun.

― circa1916, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:28 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thank you! Seriously...

Evan, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 04:47 (five years ago) link

Just what are the property rights of leprechauns, this needs to be sorted out

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 05:22 (five years ago) link

They own this shit over here, ok?

https://media.fromthegrapevine.com/assets/images/2017/2/rainbow-israel-0208.jpg.480x0_q71_crop-scale.jpg

Evan, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 05:42 (five years ago) link

Aimless otm

“claim jumper is a leprechaun” makes the whole story so on the nose as to be pointless. leave Johnny Fever to his lucky charms fanfic, i beg you all

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 06:31 (five years ago) link

hmmm, you eat lucky charms from a cereal bowl

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 07:15 (five years ago) link

I started watching this. First 2 segments are solid gold. 3rd is weird but kind of interesting. 4th is kinda boring so far.

o. nate, Saturday, 15 December 2018 03:47 (five years ago) link

I generally liked this! No outright bad episodes -- though the most promising, with Zoe Kazan and Bill Heck, is where I overdosed on the cruelty -- and several ace ones, including the Tom Waits prospector and "The Meal Ticket."

I am familiar with counting chickens in sideshows.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 December 2018 05:36 (five years ago) link

Yeah, “Meal Ticket” and “The Prospector” are def the two that have stayed with me the most, I still think about them a lot.

also where do you stand on ‘claimjumper is a leprechaun’

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2018 05:48 (five years ago) link

hadn't occurred to me, sure n' begorrah

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 December 2018 11:37 (five years ago) link

I'm willing to accept the guy as a leprechaun because it's not the only, or even the most, unrealistic thing in the episode. The prospector gets shot in the back and just carries on like nbd? They're both supernatural beings!

WmC, Thursday, 20 December 2018 13:46 (five years ago) link

I honestly thought that happens all the time in the US tbh.

calzino, Thursday, 20 December 2018 13:52 (five years ago) link

"Hyper-resilient old prospector" makes more sense to me in the context of a Western homage than "gun-wielding, smoking, human-sized leprechaun stopping by from Celtic myths to protect a pocket of gold".

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Thursday, 20 December 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link

Tbf I never said he WAS a leprechaun, I said he LOOKED like a leprechaun

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 December 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link

I need to rewatch, but I totally think it's possible the Coens saw the Leprechaun parallels and played into it a bit without literally trying to say the dude was a Leprechaun.

― circa1916, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:28 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I need to rewatch, but I totally think it's possible the Coens saw the Leprechaun parallels and played into it a bit without literally trying to say the dude was a Leprechaun.

― circa1916, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:28 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I need to rewatch, but I totally think it's possible the Coens saw the Leprechaun parallels and played into it a bit without literally trying to say the dude was a Leprechaun.

― circa1916, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:28 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Evan, Thursday, 20 December 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

"Hyper-resilient old prospector" makes more sense to me in the context of a Western homage than "gun-wielding, smoking, human-sized leprechaun stopping by from Celtic myths to protect a pocket of gold".

― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:31 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Coen Brothers, meet Neil Gaiman's American Gods. Gaiman, meet the Coen Brothers.

I Feel Bad About My Butt (j.lu), Thursday, 20 December 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link

The prospector gets shot in the back and just carries on like nbd?

IT DINT HIT NOTHIN' IMPORTANT

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link

Johnny Fever originated the leprechaun theory, and as far as I can tell he did mean a literal leprechaun

Number None, Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link

yeah, well

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link

btw Nelson, Kazan and Bill Heck did a Q&A after the screening at MoMA last night. Nelson said he first saw a script or treatment for his segment in 2002, I think?

Kazan said she prepared by re-reading Willa Cather. Not the history ("I'd done a shit-ton of research for Meek's Cutoff" -- which i'd forgotten she was in).

The digitalness of the imagery was distracting at times, like in the opening scene, where I doubt TB Nelson was anywhere near Monument Valley.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link

The whole YOU HAVE DIED OF DYSENTERY oregon trail bit I did tap out on tbrh

cholera, i'm pretty sure

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 December 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link

this was def the hottest i've seen Franco looking in years... but Bill Heck tops him (heh heh)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 December 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link

I not only found Franco attractive in the film (which is rare) but I actually enjoyed his performance (which is even rarer).

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Thursday, 20 December 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link

I feel like there was some kind of deliberate cross-reference between "PAN SHOT" and "PRAIRIE DOG" or whatever the wagon train guy yelled

sleeve, Thursday, 20 December 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

the first episode is an extended Singing Cowboy joke... it's hard to believe how many singing cowboys on film there were in the '30s and '40s. Roy Rogers was the only one who endured.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 December 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link

I was trying to think of a name of another one besides Roy while watching it and sadly drew a blank

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 December 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

Gene Autry was the only other one I'm really familiar with

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 December 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

Yeah gene autry has endured. His Xmas songs get a lot of play

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 20 December 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link

I watched a Ken Maynard one the other night for lols and it was weird as hell.

WmC, Thursday, 20 December 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link

Yes, Autry def #2 (and possibly richer!) but have you ever seen any of his films? My God, there are 97 on Letterboxd; I wonder how many exceed 55 minutes, or weren't serials.

Check out the plot of this one:

https://letterboxd.com/film/the-phantom-empire-1935/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 December 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link

sounds right up my alley

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 December 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link

Yeah I wasn't responding to circa or Shakey.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Thursday, 20 December 2018 23:56 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

I'm on team leprechaun, you guys don't deserve JF.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 04:26 (five years ago) link

rmde

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 04:27 (five years ago) link

Leprechaun lies in the eyes of the beholder imo

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 04:29 (five years ago) link

You can think any damn thing you like. Just don't pester me with your sad delusions.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 04:34 (five years ago) link

^ not new board description

steven, soda jerk (sic), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 04:45 (five years ago) link


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