The 2018 end of the year music lists thread

see also: sting and shaggy

Elza Soares is 81 and she'll be in the higher part of my year list. Come at me.

oh shit, did she have another new one out?

Over-35yo woman Brandi Carlile got a Grammy Nomination and on the NYT Jon Caramanica made a big deal about how out of touch it made the awards look

on the NYT Popcast that is

"surely young people have generally been doing more interesting stuff in popular music than old people?"

this sort of ageism (as well as the carlile moaning cited above) does nobody any good

Over-40s though...

― Siegbran, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 11:08 AM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Pusha, Sleep, Neneh, Cat Power, Low

If you listen to a lot of metal, it’s quite easy to cover the non-Anglophone and over-35 demographics. Women not so much.

DJ Koze too xp to me

Stereogum - Stereogum’s 90 Favorite Songs Of 2018
https://www.stereogum.com/2025428/best-songs-of-2018/franchises/2018-in-review/

Marisa Anderson is a treasure, her album Cloud Corner came out this year, it's so beautiful and if you ever have a chance to see her live she's amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOw_WYV4M6k&start_radio=1&list=RDOBNkVTSKDfw

Heather Leigh continues to put out great work as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCi_aj9-LOQ&list=PLzJOFFo3OoF0qvY9osbZsqQHs8ukBpmUv

Radio X’s Best Songs Of 2018
https://www.radiox.co.uk/features/x-lists/best-songs-of-2018/

AJR feat Rivers Cuomo - Sober Up
Arctic Monkeys - Four Out Of Five
Richard Ashcroft - Surprised By The Joy
James Bay - Pink Lemonade
Jade Bird - Love Has All Been Done Before
Blossoms - How Long Will This Last?
Ian Brown - First World Problems
CHVRCHES - Graffiti
Gerry Cinnamon - Sometimes
Circa Waves - Movies
The Coral - Reaching Out For A Friend
Courteeners - Not Nineteen Forever (Re: Wired)
Editors - Cold
Sam Fender - That Sound
Florence And The Machine – Hunger
Gang Of Youths - Let Me Down Easy
Tom Grennan - Found What I’ve Been Looking For
Isaac Gracie - Show Me Love
Hozier - Nina Cried Power
Miles Kane - Cry On My Guitar
Elle King - Shame
The Kooks - Four Leaf Clover
lovelytheband - Broken
Manic Street Preachers – International Blue
Johnny Marr - Hi, Hello
Alice Merton - No Roots
Mumford And Sons - Guiding Light
Muse - Pressure
Pale Waves - One More Time
Snow Patrol - Empress
sund4ra Karma - One Last Night On This Earth
Superorganism - Something For Your M.I.N.D.
Ten Tonnes - Better Than Me
The Vaccines - All My Friends Are Falling In Love
Weezer - Africa
The Wombats - Turn
Yonaka – Creature

#justiceforthekooks

this sort of ageism (as well as the carlile moaning cited above) does nobody any good

the people: grammys totally ignored women last year. bad grammys!

the grammys: [nominates woman whose not-at-all-unpopular breakthrough song is about women and other people who have been unrepresented and unloved]

the people: she is old and you are out of touch. bad grammys!

"surely young people have generally been doing more interesting stuff in popular music than old people?"

this sort of ageism (as well as the carlile moaning cited above) does nobody any good

if you disagree that's fine but no need to accuse me of "ageism"

perhaps "interesting" is imprecise but then zeitgeisty or new or fresh or whatever, stuff that would go on an eoy list in a zeitgeisty mag

that implicates the zeitgeist more than anything

this new Meshell Ndegeocello album came up on a Spotify year end list that's supposed to hip you to stuff you would like that came out in 2018, it's a pretty amazing covers album (though "covers" doesn't do it justice, they really reimagine the songs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ1I4KzFTJ0

The Brandi Carlisle record is the one that listeners over 35 ask me about. My best friend's wife is a massive fan, and this album's success has felt like vindication.

which of these groups of artists would be bigger:

1) artists that release strong material in their youth, weaker material (or none) when they get old
2) artists that release weak material (or none) in their youth, strong material when they get old
3) artists that release qualitatively consistent material throughout their career

if you think I'm suggesting old people don't make great music, I find your interpretation of my post disrespectful

I'm just saying it's hardly a surprise that there would be more young people on eoy lists

otm about the meshell record, which should be on more of these lists

Not sure if we posted the American Songwriter list last week. Definitely not afraid of over 35 olds.

https://americansongwriter.com/2018/12/american-songwriters-top-25-albums-of-2018-presented-by-daddario/

neils if you have to post two successive clarifications of your original post maybe the problem was the original post?

attn kornruelz, amanda shires is finally on a list ^^^ xp

xp yeah I guess so, just surprised anyone would think I don't like music made by old people, doesn't make any sense to me

sorry if you feel disrespected but your initial assertion came off in an uncharitable-toward-older-women (not all artists, specifically *women artists*) way that is not uncommon among the chattering classes across the board

and katherine otm about the zeitgeist being implicated

xp

anyway fcc otm

yeah okay, didn't mean that... anyway 3 of my favorite 2018 albums by women born before 1983 are Juliana Hatfield Sings Olivia Newton John by Juliana Hatfield, Rebound by Eleanor Friedberger and SOAR by Catrin Finch with Seckou Keita, all highly recommended

xp "Leave It Alone" by Amanda Shires was also... #99 on the NPR tracks list

For a messageboard trying to list all the women over 35 who put out records this year, you sure are finding it easy to avoid mentioning Daphne & Celeste

Lj why don't you just say it's good and recommend it without being a prick about it

The Brandi Carlisle album is exactly the kind of thing that deserves multiple Grammy nominations (IMO) — terrific songwriting, remarkable performances (I love her singing), excellent production... all in a very “accessible”/“popular” (in the best possibly sense) style.

yeah when I reviewed it for the 'Fork I got more positive email than anything I've written in years. I didn't think anyone still did that sort of thing, until I realized 35+ men and women are more likely to write emails.

Amanda Shires made The Atlantic's list too. So did Marianne Faithful and um, Metallica...

The Atlantic - The 23 Best Albums of 2018
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/12/23-best-albums-2018/577792/

and shy glizzy!

PLACE MEG MYERS’ “NUMB” U COWARDS

surprised that teyana taylor record hasn’t placed either. seemed like a big deal record when it came out

I couldn't possibly recall which but it's been on at least two I've seen (from this thread)

oh.... I ctrl+f’d. not foolproof I guess

surprised that teyana taylor record hasn’t placed either. seemed like a big deal record when it came out

really? Felt like it got totally lost amid Kanye's bullshit. Felt sorry for her tbh

xp they might have just been linked

I've seen "A Rose in Harlem" on a couple of lists too I think

PLACE MEG MYERS’ “NUMB” U COWARDS

this is a good album but kind of suffers from no one covering this kind of music anymore unless it's by a designated name like snail mail or whoever

The Amanda Shires album is one I can see myself returning to over time; glad it's getting some recognition.

"numb" will be on my trax ballot

Shires is also on DeRo's list. Viagra Boys #1, which I've been enjoying the past few weeks: https://www.soundopinions.org/show/680

why would you name your band Viagra Boys

viagra boys album is funny

enjoyed it, but didnt really go back to it

A: you look like this

http://diymag.com/media/img/Artists/V/Viagra-Boys/_1500x1000_crop_center-center_75/VB-Press-Photo11_11.jpg

i like the guy on the rights stance

It's a tory power stance.