The 2018 end of the year music lists thread

celine dion looks so much like liz phair in that photo!

(she also had a single from the Deadpool 2 soundtrack btw, so that's a shoo-in for the singles poll)

the old geezer quotient is definitely down this year

surely young people have generally been doing more interesting stuff in popular music than old people? there's more young musicians than old musicians too afaik (at least at the rehearsal spaces I've been to)

I think it's safe to say that has always been the case.

You must not live in NYC

I only count 4 men definitively over 35 on the Pfork list (Kamasi, DJ Koze, Jon Hopkins, Alan of Low)

― resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, December 11, 2018 10:43 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Pusha

Well spotted.

The guys from Sleep have to be too

I just remembered there was a Tune-Yards album this year and it's nowhere to be seen on even the most half-heartedly compiled indie list.

came out in january to lukewarm reviews--not a good formula for year-end lists

Victoria Legrand of Beach House is 37, Jon Hopkins is 39

(ok Hopkins already named)

Over-40s though...

Pitchfork and many other lists seem mostly uninterested in largely young people genres like kpop and afrobeats, plus genres with young & old like dancehall, reggaeton, Afropop and soca.

as someone who votes in a lot of lists and frequently enjoys kpop and afrobeats tracks -- it's less that I don't enjoy them, more that I don't listen to enough to feel comfortable making a judgment that this is the best of the year and not the 200 I've never heard.

Over-40s though...

where is the love for gaz coombes?

see also: sting and shaggy

Elza Soares is 81 and she'll be in the higher part of my year list. Come at me.

oh shit, did she have another new one out?

Over-35yo woman Brandi Carlile got a Grammy Nomination and on the NYT Jon Caramanica made a big deal about how out of touch it made the awards look

on the NYT Popcast that is

"surely young people have generally been doing more interesting stuff in popular music than old people?"

this sort of ageism (as well as the carlile moaning cited above) does nobody any good

Over-40s though...

― Siegbran, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 11:08 AM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Pusha, Sleep, Neneh, Cat Power, Low

If you listen to a lot of metal, it’s quite easy to cover the non-Anglophone and over-35 demographics. Women not so much.

DJ Koze too xp to me

Stereogum - Stereogum’s 90 Favorite Songs Of 2018
https://www.stereogum.com/2025428/best-songs-of-2018/franchises/2018-in-review/

Marisa Anderson is a treasure, her album Cloud Corner came out this year, it's so beautiful and if you ever have a chance to see her live she's amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOw_WYV4M6k&start_radio=1&list=RDOBNkVTSKDfw

Heather Leigh continues to put out great work as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCi_aj9-LOQ&list=PLzJOFFo3OoF0qvY9osbZsqQHs8ukBpmUv

Radio X’s Best Songs Of 2018
https://www.radiox.co.uk/features/x-lists/best-songs-of-2018/

AJR feat Rivers Cuomo - Sober Up
Arctic Monkeys - Four Out Of Five
Richard Ashcroft - Surprised By The Joy
James Bay - Pink Lemonade
Jade Bird - Love Has All Been Done Before
Blossoms - How Long Will This Last?
Ian Brown - First World Problems
CHVRCHES - Graffiti
Gerry Cinnamon - Sometimes
Circa Waves - Movies
The Coral - Reaching Out For A Friend
Courteeners - Not Nineteen Forever (Re: Wired)
Editors - Cold
Sam Fender - That Sound
Florence And The Machine – Hunger
Gang Of Youths - Let Me Down Easy
Tom Grennan - Found What I’ve Been Looking For
Isaac Gracie - Show Me Love
Hozier - Nina Cried Power
Miles Kane - Cry On My Guitar
Elle King - Shame
The Kooks - Four Leaf Clover
lovelytheband - Broken
Manic Street Preachers – International Blue
Johnny Marr - Hi, Hello
Alice Merton - No Roots
Mumford And Sons - Guiding Light
Muse - Pressure
Pale Waves - One More Time
Snow Patrol - Empress
sund4ra Karma - One Last Night On This Earth
Superorganism - Something For Your M.I.N.D.
Ten Tonnes - Better Than Me
The Vaccines - All My Friends Are Falling In Love
Weezer - Africa
The Wombats - Turn
Yonaka – Creature

#justiceforthekooks

this sort of ageism (as well as the carlile moaning cited above) does nobody any good

the people: grammys totally ignored women last year. bad grammys!

the grammys: [nominates woman whose not-at-all-unpopular breakthrough song is about women and other people who have been unrepresented and unloved]

the people: she is old and you are out of touch. bad grammys!

"surely young people have generally been doing more interesting stuff in popular music than old people?"

this sort of ageism (as well as the carlile moaning cited above) does nobody any good

if you disagree that's fine but no need to accuse me of "ageism"

perhaps "interesting" is imprecise but then zeitgeisty or new or fresh or whatever, stuff that would go on an eoy list in a zeitgeisty mag

that implicates the zeitgeist more than anything

this new Meshell Ndegeocello album came up on a Spotify year end list that's supposed to hip you to stuff you would like that came out in 2018, it's a pretty amazing covers album (though "covers" doesn't do it justice, they really reimagine the songs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ1I4KzFTJ0

The Brandi Carlisle record is the one that listeners over 35 ask me about. My best friend's wife is a massive fan, and this album's success has felt like vindication.

which of these groups of artists would be bigger:

1) artists that release strong material in their youth, weaker material (or none) when they get old
2) artists that release weak material (or none) in their youth, strong material when they get old
3) artists that release qualitatively consistent material throughout their career

if you think I'm suggesting old people don't make great music, I find your interpretation of my post disrespectful

I'm just saying it's hardly a surprise that there would be more young people on eoy lists

otm about the meshell record, which should be on more of these lists

Not sure if we posted the American Songwriter list last week. Definitely not afraid of over 35 olds.

https://americansongwriter.com/2018/12/american-songwriters-top-25-albums-of-2018-presented-by-daddario/

neils if you have to post two successive clarifications of your original post maybe the problem was the original post?

attn kornruelz, amanda shires is finally on a list ^^^ xp

xp yeah I guess so, just surprised anyone would think I don't like music made by old people, doesn't make any sense to me

sorry if you feel disrespected but your initial assertion came off in an uncharitable-toward-older-women (not all artists, specifically *women artists*) way that is not uncommon among the chattering classes across the board

and katherine otm about the zeitgeist being implicated

xp

anyway fcc otm

yeah okay, didn't mean that... anyway 3 of my favorite 2018 albums by women born before 1983 are Juliana Hatfield Sings Olivia Newton John by Juliana Hatfield, Rebound by Eleanor Friedberger and SOAR by Catrin Finch with Seckou Keita, all highly recommended

xp "Leave It Alone" by Amanda Shires was also... #99 on the NPR tracks list

For a messageboard trying to list all the women over 35 who put out records this year, you sure are finding it easy to avoid mentioning Daphne & Celeste

Lj why don't you just say it's good and recommend it without being a prick about it

The Brandi Carlisle album is exactly the kind of thing that deserves multiple Grammy nominations (IMO) — terrific songwriting, remarkable performances (I love her singing), excellent production... all in a very “accessible”/“popular” (in the best possibly sense) style.

yeah when I reviewed it for the 'Fork I got more positive email than anything I've written in years. I didn't think anyone still did that sort of thing, until I realized 35+ men and women are more likely to write emails.

Amanda Shires made The Atlantic's list too. So did Marianne Faithful and um, Metallica...

The Atlantic - The 23 Best Albums of 2018
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/12/23-best-albums-2018/577792/

and shy glizzy!

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