one of the most irritating things in the recent bad film VOX LUX is that the main character is depicted as singing like this as a rising teen star circa 1999-2001, when absolutely nobody was singing like this iirc. the songs were all written by sia but they didn't have to be sung that way, surely!
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, December 11, 2018 10:38 AM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol I haven't seen it (probably won't) but if I do now this is going to bug me
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link
Immediately thought of the way Carly Rae Jepsen sings the word "got" in the line "I've got 'em too" in Boy Problems.
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link
i really don't recommend the film though i know some people are viewing it as an interesting/ambitious failure. for me it was just a mess. i would also put some heavy trigger warnings re: gun violence and trauma on the front end of it fwiw. but this inability to show any verisimilitude re: turn-of-the-00s pop was what drove my ILMy brain batty.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link
― J. Sam, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 11:25 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that's a Sia vocalization I think -- I wrote a piece for NPR about this but a lot of this can be traced to Sia writing a lot of pop songs, enough that people emulate her
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link
Tori Amos definitely an early vector for this, though - I remember being baffled by her pronunciation of "watchword" as "wyechword" in "Cornflake Girl" in 1994.
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
Lol, yes.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DD7VIKZnGA
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link
Leave Ellen Greene the hell out of this
― kinder, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link
A lot of the examples given I couldn't hear what the big deal was tbh. Anyway try listening to Mick Jagger - diphthongs, triphthongs, bizarre phrasing, outlandish accent etc etc.
― Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 17:38 (five days ago) Permalink
I always just took this to be a cartoonishly bad (and slightly offensive) attempt at sounding african american
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link
(...)if you were singing 'good' over two notes it's easy to naturally change the second sound as you lift the pitch?
This is basically all I hear happening in the Selena G. song (which is not to deny the existence of this "indie girl singer" affectation, or whatever it may be).
― underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link
I'm no singer; but just trying it out here in my quiet office, I don't know how I would stretch "go-od" into two syllables and not change the pitch on the 2nd one.
― underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link
xp ^^ yeah the chorussy bit of that is what I was referring to. But earlier on (around 25s in) there are more grating 'guoid's (and 'toech')
― kinder, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link
― J. Sam, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 10:25 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
me too! she makes it three syllables long in the part at the end!!
― crüt, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link
It is completely possible to sing a melisma without changing the vowel sound wtf.
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:41 (five years ago) link
I am completely able to sing two pitches on "good" without turning it into "goo-yid".
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link
You are very likely a better singer than me!
― underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:44 (five years ago) link
Not that I'm a singer but xp ha
― Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:44 (five years ago) link
Eyyyem ah veyrr guoid singehhhh
― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 10:11 (five years ago) link
Hah this thread has set me off on a Rickie Lee Jones voyage of discovery, and damn - how the fuck did I miss her for 36 years?
― It's like an Christian pop (thewufs), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 11:03 (five years ago) link
she's the greatest :)
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 12:29 (five years ago) link