get a slightly creepy vibe off the textura list, reading through it, tbh
How so? (I've only skimmed through it.)
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:05 (five years ago) link
It's impossible to imagine any British person who doesn't attend holiday camp festivals voluntarily choosing to listen to an artist called 'Soccer Mommy' though. I mean Snail Mail was bad enough you guys.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 2:16 AM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
jess argued convincingly on fb 'snail mail' is actually the worse name for being chosen by someone who never actually used 'snail mail'
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, December 11, 2018
I was going to ask on that Jess thread, "What about Speedy Ortiz?" (whom I like, a lot).
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:14 (five years ago) link
textura is in the same sort of ballpark as sites like a closer listen and fluid radio who also i think start putting out lists at this time of year if you . kind of the conservatoire end of experimental/ambient music, nothing at all street about anything they cover afaict, so it's a distinctly different flavour to the wire or something. it's sort of r3 late junction music?
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:25 (five years ago) link
late junction is more whimsical iirc
― ogmor, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:26 (five years ago) link
definitely more experimental hardanger fiddle tbf
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:27 (five years ago) link
you need to venn diagram this stuff for me
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:28 (five years ago) link
i truly love the hardanger fiddle. its absence in these lists smacks of small-minded prejudice and is quite creepy tbh
― ogmor, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:29 (five years ago) link
ogmor otm
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:31 (five years ago) link
Resident Advisor - 2018's Best Albumshttps://www.residentadvisor.net/features/3384
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:43 (five years ago) link
great to see some love for fatima in there, that's a really enjoyable record imo
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:44 (five years ago) link
cosign
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:45 (five years ago) link
Opium Hum's Top 40 (Not Black Metal or Doom Metal Edition):
40. Lawrence – Illusion39. E L U C I D – Shit Don't Rhyme No More38. Donny McCaslin – Blow.37. Ripped to Shreds – 埋葬36. Wata Igarashi – Niskala35. Less Bells – Solifuge34. Vessel – Queen of Golden Dogs33. City Hunter – Deep Blood32. Dead Can Dance – Dionysus31. Arp – Zebra30. Ilyas Ahmed – Closer to Stranger29. Undersave – Sadistic Iterations... Tales of Mental Rearrangement28. GosT – Possessor27. Conway – Everybody Is F.O.O.D.26. Lisa Gerrard & David Kuckhermann – Hiraeth25. Marissa Nadler – For My Crimes24. Nahja Mora – As Death23. Kamaal Williams – The Return22. Emma Ruth Rundle – On Dark Horses21. Rival Consoles – Persona20. Conner Youngblood – Cheyenne19. Andrew W.K. – You're Not Alone18. Scorched – Ecliptic Butchery17. Anenon – Tongue16. Heads. – Collider15. The Caretaker – Everywhere at the End of Time - Stage 414. Arctic Monkeys – Tranquility Base Hotel + Casino13. R+R=NOW – Collagically Speaking12. Brigid Mae Power – The Two Worlds11. Pusha T – Daytona10. Father John Misty – God's Favorite Customer9. Autechre – NTS Sessions 1-48. Steve Tibbetts – Life Of7. Beach House – 76. Kelly Moran – Ultraviolet5. Nine Inch Nails – Bad Witch4. Tor Lundvall – A Dark Place3. Mount Eerie – Now Only2. Oneohtrix Point Never – Age Of1. Low – Double Negative
http://opiumhum.blogspot.com/2018/12/my-40-favorite-albums-of-2018-not-black.html
Bit of a weird list, all things considered, which is at it should be.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link
Here's the full RA albums list:
Autechre - NTS Sessions 1-4Julia Holter - AviaryFatima - And Yet It's All LoveLeon Vynehall - Nothing Is StillLucrecia Dalt - Anticlines Various - 15 Years Of The BunkerVarg - Nordic Flora Pt. 5: CrushSarah Davachi - Gave In RestVarious - Don't Mess With Cupid, 'Cause Cupid Ain't StupidRobyn - Honeyserpentwithfeet - soilChristoph De Babalon - If You're Into It, I'm Out Of ItDemdike Stare - PassionAnthony Naples - Take Me With YouJlin - AutobiographySilvia Kastel - Air LowsMartyn - VoidsPendant - Make Me Know You SweetYves Tumor - Safe In The Hands Of LoveSurgeon - Luminosity DeviceGrouper - Grid Of PointsDJ Healer - Nothing 2 LoosePrime Minister Of Doom - Mudshadow PropagandaMarie Davidson - Working Class WomanDe Leon - De LeonBlawan - Wet Will Always DryHunee - Hunchin' All NightSOPHIE - Oil Of Every Pearl's Un-InsidesDJ Koze - Knock KnockTirzah - DevotionShinichi Atobe - HeatSpecter - Built To LastObjekt - Cocoon CrushBorusiade - A BodyJK Flesh - New HorizonTim Hecker - KonoyoVarious - Kulør 001Deena Abdelwahed - Khonnar HVL - OstatiSkee Mask - Compro
https://www.residentadvisor.net/features/3384
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 13:14 (five years ago) link
Anthony Naples - Take Me With You
^^ this is a good one, I think they only just reviewed it yesterday.
― calzino, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 13:18 (five years ago) link
What would a surprising list from a mainstream publication even look like in 2018?
― maura, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 13:42 (five years ago) link
Would have liked to see Sons of Kemet or Makaya McCraven over Kamasi Washington as the the jazz pick but glad someone made it on
― No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link
I just listened to SoK for the first time this morning and was glad to have something to scratch my Melt Yourself Down itch, and then of course I checked the personnel list.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link
lots of women over 35
to be fair to pfork, that was one of the few lists i've seen with both the neneh and cat power records in it. low and robyn too, but yeah, that's still not a lot
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link
xpwhat's kind of odd about Kamasi Washington being the anointed jazz pick for non-jazz pubs is that both those albums are much easier to digest than KW's
― rob, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link
was bummed i didn't get to blurb anything for the pfork albums list but this was the second year in a row my list was radically different from the final lol
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link
I thought Julia Holter might qualify but she's 34
― resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:24 (five years ago) link
I imagine Meghan Remy of US Girls is getting pretty close as well
tbh not a lot of ppl over 35 of any klnd on the Pfork list
― resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link
absence of roisin murphy on most tracks lists is a global scandal tbh
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link
Also a gross neglect of k-pop and happy hardcore.
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
what's kind of odd about Kamasi Washington being the anointed jazz pick for non-jazz pubs is that both those albums are much easier to digest than KW's
I actually feel like KW's uncompromising, exhaustive maximalist aesthetic is part of what non-jazz pubs admire about him. He seems like a "visionary" and reminds them of Coltrane. (I prefer the McCraven album, too.)
― jaymc, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link
x-post--Looks like the Rosalia cut is the only non-English language track in the Pitchfork top 100 tracks.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link
xps i was a little disappointed BTS didn't show up on any tracks lists seeing as they've actually made it in america now & "idol" was such a triumph imo - organically blending into gqom into their sound for something that doesn't really sound much like anything else in either korean or american pop at the moment
they did show up on the noisey albums list i guess but i don't really rate the album
― ufo, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link
DJ Booth - 50 Best Hip-Hop and R&B Albums of 2018, Rankedhttps://djbooth.net/features/2018-12-11-best-albums-2018-ranked
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link
maura's point is undeniable, but yeah my version of a genuinely surprising list would be one that had multiple albums from outside the anglosphere.
jaymc: I agree it makes sense in that way. But I think they're doing their readers a disservice by limiting their presentation of jazz to that particular aesthetic. Just speaking personally I'm not sure I've heard every track on the KW yet, while I've listened to all of Universal Beings lots (SoK being even more digestible).
― rob, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:47 (five years ago) link
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, December 11, 2018 9:30 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
agreed, although I think the lack of an album and no clear big single probably caused vote-splitting
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link
The contemporary 'classical' music scene now features plenty of incredible women composers and musicians over 35, far more than a decade ago. It's not exactly mainstream, though…
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link
wow this Tierra Whack "album" is powerfully annoying
― resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:56 (five years ago) link
katherine i'm appealing to the UN to have plaything officially recognised as the top roisin tune of 2018
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link
denied, it's "all my dreams"
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link
― rob
i don't know, rym list culture goes pretty heavily outside the anglosphere, to me it would be pretty easy to put together a list of non-english 2018 records
much harder for me to put together a list of records by over-35 women, and it would include stuff like bettye lavette's record of dylan songs
part of that difficulty though is that i don't read press releases and so i have no idea how old the women making the records i listen to are. if it's instrumental i don't even know the gender of the person making it, unless they have a name my american ass recognizes as female.
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:11 (five years ago) link
what's kind of odd about Kamasi Washington being the anointed jazz pick for non-jazz pubs is that both those albums are much easier to digest than KW'sI actually feel like KW's uncompromising, exhaustive maximalist aesthetic is part of what non-jazz pubs admire about him. He seems like a "visionary" and reminds them of Coltrane. (I prefer the McCraven album, too.)
― jaymc, Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:35 AM (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I didn't mean to diss Kamasi, I like him a lot...all three of the albums are great though I prefer the other two, I mean the larger problem is there's only one slot for one capital-J jazz album
― No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link
I mean an easy way to put together a list of records by over-35 women is to follow women throughout their careers
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link
There's just so much music now! from all over the world, all kinds of genres, the idea that any list of 50 albums can even come close to capturing a year in music in the post streaming era is just foolish
these lists feel less important than ever, but maybe more useful, like i feel like i'm just looking at different playlists and it gives me stuff to look up at work
― No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link
on another note I am genuinely stunned that the Janelle album is being snubbed more or less across the board
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link
someone should do some analytics on first-half / second-half of year release date breakdowns for EOY placements
― resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link
lots of women over 35― maura
Hi guys, if 2019's ILX EOY doesn't feature my band of five over-35yo women (and one under-35yo woman) I'll kick all yr asses. ^__^
― emil.y, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
the janelle album's only been snubbed by p4k really, it's #1 on this aggregate: https://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/summary/2018/
― ufo, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link
Speaking of women over 35, I didn't see Tracey Thorn's album on the Pitchfork list -- unless I missed it.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link
While we're at it, here are a few excellent 2018 classical releases showcasing works by women over 35:
Anna S. Þorvaldsdóttir - AequaCassandra Miller - Just So: String QuartetsEva-Maria Houben - Breath for OrganLaura Schwendinger - QuartetsLinda Catlin Smith - WandererSarah Nemtsov - Amplified ImaginationSéverine Ballon - InconnaissanceSuzanne Farrin - La dolce morte
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4f/Celine_Dion_Live_2018_Official_Photo.jpg/250px-Celine_Dion_Live_2018_Official_Photo.jpg
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
yay!!! it’s my number one already and i haven’t even heard a note
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
I only count 4 men definitively over 35 on the Pfork list (Kamasi, DJ Koze, Jon Hopkins, Alan of Low)
― resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
and no Soto you did not miss Tracey, she's not there
― resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link
celine dion looks so much like liz phair in that photo!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link
(she also had a single from the Deadpool 2 soundtrack btw, so that's a shoo-in for the singles poll)
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link